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M I N N E S O T A City council study session
LIFE .r. +hc Park St. Louis Park, Minnesota
July 23, 2018
The meeting convened at 6:30 p.m.
Councilmembers present: Mayor Jake Spano, Rachel Harris, Anne Mavity, Thom Miller, and
Margaret Rog.
Councilmembers absent: Tim Brausen and Steve Hallfin.
Staff present: City Manager (Mr. Harmening), Engineering Director (Ms. Heiser), Human
Resources Director/Deputy City Manager (Ms. Deno), Senior Project Manager (Mr. Walther),
Community Development Director (Ms. Barton), City Attorney (Mr. Mattick), Management
Assistant (Ms. Carrillo Perez), Deputy Police Chief Kraayenbrink, Racial Equity Manager (Ms.
Sojourner), and Recording Secretary (Ms. Pappas).
Guest: None.
1. Future study session agenda Planning — August, 2018
Mr. Harmening presented the proposed study session agenda.
Councilmember Brausen sent a note asking for the council to discuss changing parking
requirements and making the minimum lower for impervious surface.
2. Firearm sales
Ms. Carrillo Perez stated the policy considerations for council to address this evening are as
follows:
• Changing how firearms are disposed of by the police department
• Further restrict zoning regulations for firearm sales
• Addressing gun shows at city owned facilities
Deputy Chief Kraayenbrink discussed the ways firearms are brought into the police department
noting they are either:
1. Evidence—through search or incident
2. Public has asked police to keep firearm for safekeeping
3. With the death of a loved one, a firearm has become an estate item and is brought to
police and ownership released,
4. It is an officer's handgun, and is police property
Deputy Chief Kraayenbrink added with firearms disposal, guns can be given to the BCA or the
Sheriff for the gun library or can be destroyed by the city police department. He added when an
officer retires, their handgun can be purchased by the officer, after it first goes to the licensed
dealer. After that time, the officer is able to purchase the gun from the dealer and proceeds go
back to the city.
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Mayor Spano stated that he and Cory Krause, owner of Frontiersman Sport, along with Gabe
Kaplan and Maddie Lind, students at St. Louis Park High School, recently met to discuss gun
sales and ideas around this topic, and he thanked them for doing so.
Mayor Spano also noted that Mr. Krause committed to not buying or selling automatic rifles in
his store any longer, and Mayor Spano thanked him for that. Mayor Spano stated that the
process laid out for firearms in the city, involves practices which are prescribed by statute,
adding he sees no reason to make adjustments. He added he has no problem with the officers
purchasing their firearm after retiring from the force but is more inclined to have firearms
transferred to the Sheriff's firearms library vs. being sold and possibly put back out on the
street.
Councilmember Harris asked if the practices with firearms were changed, would there be any
revenue loss to the police department. Deputy Chief Kraayenbrink stated there is no revenue
loss to the police department.
Councilmember Miller asked what happens to firearms that are sent to the BCA and if they are
returned to the market. Deputy Chief Kraayenbrink stated he was not certain, but if they did
not go to the BCA or Sheriff, the police department could destroy them also.
Councilmember Miller stated he would advocate that the city police department destroy them
at the end of life.
Councilmember Rog stated in looking over the meeting minutes from May 21, the students
came to the study session asking the council for several items related to protection of students
in schools. She stated this is an opportunity for the council to respond to what the students are
asking for, and the council needs to partner with the schools in providing a resource officer,
more protection, and more counseling in order to help them feel safer.
Councilmember Mavity stated that all firearms that go through the city are destroyed so they
don't get to the BCA or Sheriffs office. She added that she does not want to see city weapons
associated with things that do not align with city values.
Councilmember Mavity asked if retiring city police officers are required to go to Frontiersman
to purchase their same gun for personal use. City Attorney Mattick stated the general rules of
selling city -owned property to city employees is that it must go through a dealer.
Councilmember Mavity commented that while she understands this process, she is not sure it
outweighs the broader policy, and has concerns that if the officer says they will purchase the
firearm, and then does not, it may end up going back out into the public.
After discussion, it was the consensus of the council that the policy be written stating if the
officer does not purchase his own firearm through Frontiersman, the firearm will go back to the
city for destruction.
Mr. Walther showed the council areas of C2 where buffers exist as it related to firearm sales.
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Councilmember Miller stated he advocates for further discussion making it difficult for
additional gun shops to open.
Mayor Spano stated he would be in favor of restricting gun shops into only one area of the city,
as small as possible in scope, and grandfathering in Frontiersman to leave it at its current
location.
Mr. Mattick noted gun sales are allowed as home occupations, through the internet, adding this
could be banned by the city.
Councilmember Rog asked for data on how frequently guns are purchased immediately prior to
a mass shooting. Deputy Chief Kraayenbrink stated he did not know, but felt many of these
mass shootings are planned out well in advance.
Councilmember Rog stated she would like more information on this, adding she is still
frustrated the council is not discussing how they can protect students more. She also asked
how closely the city monitors illegal sales of firearms.
Councilmember Harris noted in San Antonio in June 2018, they discussed policies which are
virtually the same as what St. Louis Park is looking at. She stated she is appreciative of what
staff has presented, it makes sense for zoning, and she will support it.
Councilmember Mavity asked about zoning and if sporting goods stores would have the ability
to sell firearms in the city, should they choose to.
Mr. Harmening stated the city fire arms sales ordinance would apply to anyone looking at
selling firearms in the city.
Councilmember Mavity also noted congress does not allow the study of gun violence and has
banned the CDC to study and understand those questions, adding there may be no data
available to review. Mayor Spano, however, noted others have done studies on this, and asked
staff to look into this.
In light of zoning questions, Mayor Spano added he would prefer not to allow gun shows on city
property.
Mr. Harmening added the city has not hosted a gun show, and thought a policy should be
adopted now, prior to the city receiving a request.
Councilmember Mavity asked if the city must provide a permit for a gun show, perhaps if a
hotel wanted to host the event, can the city not allow it. Mr. Mattick stated an outright ban by
the city on gun shows might be protected. He stated he will check further into this and how it
aligns with the zoning.
Councilmember Miller stated he would like to protect the 1000 -foot space around schools
perhaps with signage, which might help students feel safer.
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Councilmember Mavity stated she appreciates this; however, would like to look deeper into this
and if it's appropriate to work with Children First and community policing on this as well, to
build trust and confidence within the schools and with students. She added she wants to be
cautious about more law enforcement mentality, which might make students feel safe, when
they are really not safe — then creating more fear.
Councilmember Rog added she would want to work with students on this and with the school
district and do what students are asking for.
Councilmember Harris stated this should be a broader conversation with the school district and
the council on a joint partnership related to gun safety. She added it might be worth a
conversation with Discover St. Louis Park about how they book hotel conventions, and creating
a resolution that states they would not promote or accept a gun in a city hotel.
Mr. Harmening added, however, the city would need to discuss this with the hotels as well.
Mayor Spano stated this will be an ongoing conversation with students, police, the school
district, residents, Mr. Kramer, and others to talk about gun safety in our community. He added
the city might also have discussions on the ways guns are locked in homes, and gun storage
guidelines.
It was the consensus of the council to change how firearms are disposed of, to restrict zoning
regulations for firearm sales, particularly with home businesses, and also to address gun shows
at city owned facilities — noting that the council does not want gun shows within the city as a
matter of policy. Staff will contact city hotels for more discussion on this and bring information
back to the council at a future study session.
3. Multi -family housing sidewalk connections
Ms. Heiser presented the report and asked the council if they wish staff to pursue the
installation of additional sidewalk segments connecting low amenity multi -family housing units
to community sidewalk corridors in the interest of providing better pedestrian connections
throughout the city.
Ms. Heiser noted the city is halfway through the 10 -year Connect the Park project, and pointed
out that many areas such as Elmwood, still have gaps in the sidewalk system. She laid out a 10
year plan that would incorporate the installation of these sidewalk gaps into existing
transportation projects already included in the CIP.
Councilmember Miller noted it would be more equitable for multi -cultural families that live in
these areas, if they had more comparable sidewalk segments and experiences, as other areas
do, with more trees and landscaping.
Ms. Heiser stated the community walks connect destinations, such as schools, parks and transit,
adding the new sidewalk segments will have street trees that will be maintained by the city. She
indicated that additional landscaping will require more commitment, but could be pursued with
a partnership with the adjoining property owners.
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Mr. Harmening added the concern with streetscape is that it involves the creation of a special
service district that owners pay for to maintain. He pointed out in the area near Aquila, along
Minnetonka Boulevard, there is only one property owner, so it would be different than having
multiple businesses helping to pay for this.
Councilmember Mavity stated also with costs involved, owners may need to push rents up,
which would not be beneficial for those residents, nor does it fit into the idea of affordable
housing.
Mr. Harmening stated staff would first need to discuss this option with the property owner.
Councilmember Miller asked if the schedule for installation can be moved up, adding this is
about priority, and needs to be discussed.
Mr. Harmening stated it would be difficult to accelerate the sidewalk installation very much.
Councilmember Harris stated she is thrilled about adding sidewalk connections, and focusing on
these areas, to bring them in line with single-family residential. She asked about adding curb
cuts to provide better, more consistent connections.
Councilmember Rog stated she likes the Texas Avenue upgrades and the bridge to Target and
says 'yes' to the policy question. She added the assumption here is that the NOAH properties
will remain so, but that may not be the case, and there is no way to know what will happen
there. She added the council will need to think about this, and while she supports this concept
generally, she wonders about stormwater run-off and if there is any way to mitigate it.
Ms. Heiser stated this is the reason behind the city's 5 -foot boulevards, so that sidewalks can
drain to the grass, providing a space disconnected from the street where water can infiltrate,
instead of draining directly into the storm sewer.
Mayor Spano stated he is fine with the plan and emphasized not limiting the criteria for
sidewalks to transit only, but to connecting commercial, parks, and schools as well.
It was the consensus of the council to direct staff to pursue the installation of gap sidewalk
segments connecting low amenity multi -family housing units to transit corridors, schools, and
commercial areas as a part of transportation projects.
4. Boards and commissions discussion
Ms. Carrillo Perez and Ms. Sojourner presented. They asked the council if they wish to make
changes or adjustments to the current boards and commissions and if they would like staff to
provide recommendations on guidelines for scope of work, communication, and expectations
with the city's boards and commissions.
Ms. Carrillo Perez reviewed all ten boards and commissions with council and provided history,
background information, and context around each one.
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Councilmember Mavity stated there are currently 85 residents involved on boards and
commissions, and that is a good number involved in city business. She described it as positive
and has found boards and commissions to be helpful in city processes. She added the
challenges are in the style and quality and approach which varies so dramatically, depending on
who is appointed each time, and that variability is one of the challenges.
Councilmember Mavity stated there needs to be more clarity on the roles of staff, council, and
commission/board, and that is lacking here.
Councilmember Harris stated from a high-level perspective, having commissions align with the
Comprehensive Plan is a good place to start, as it shows the city is in line with what the
community is asking to work on. She noted she has the most experience on the Environment
and Sustainability Commission (ESC), and pointed out within the first three years, there were
three different staff liaisons, followed by miscommunication on what to work on. She added
the council had said the ESC did not bring forward what the council had asked for, but she has a
different perspective on that, stating it took a while for the council to create a clear focus for
the ESC.
Councilmember Rog stated from her perspective the commissions and boards are not working
that well, and she sees typical membership on commissions as being white, older, middle class
residents. She added the city is not taking advantage of insights and wisdom of folks in the
community and she does not agree with unlimited terms. She stated there were many folks
with great ideas that were passed over for positions on commissions, and the council missed an
opportunity to stay fresh and distribute power more widely.
Councilmember Rog added there is still confusion about the Human Rights Commission (HRC)
and its role, if it is advisory to the council or not, and she is not confident this is working the
best it can currently. She suggested it would be useful to poll current members of our boards
and commissions and see the opportunities and challenges they face and how many should be
on their commission.
Councilmember Miller added there is a lot of room for improvement in the structure and
direction the council gives the boards and commissions, adding the council could leverage this
in a bigger way. He stated he would support having more commissions on specific topics the
council wants to study, while also noting the council must really understand what they want
from these commissions and create guidelines.
Mayor Spano asked if boards and commissions members go through race equity training. Ms.
Carrillo Perez stated not at this time. Mayor Spano stated this is something that should be part
of their work, similarly as it is part of staff's and council's work. He also asked if race equity is
part of the boards and commissions work plans.
Ms. Deno stated this work is in progress and more leadership and direction will be needed to
complete it. Ms. Carrillo Perez added each board and commission has race equity statements;
however, they need to go deeper.
Mayor Spano added each commission needs a work plan that council approves.
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Councilmember Rog noted the expertise that members provide is appreciated.
Councilmember Mavity agreed the expertise is needed; however, the council relies on staff to
provide clear information, adding she would be cautious about having commissions doing
research, and who is evaluating it. She stated she relies on staff experts to do this, adding it is a
quality control issue.
Ms. Sojourner stated the council needs to look at the commissions and their historical
backgrounds. She pointed out it is important to review, and over time, the commissions
become normalized and part of the structure of city government and can stagnate. The boards
and commissions may need to be updated, and the council must think about checks and
balances often, and not rely on status quo thinking. The council must review if the structure is
still right, how meetings are run, bylaws, whether evenings are always the best time for
meetings, noting that many folks work 211 and 3rd shift and may want to serve, but cannot
because of this.
Ms. Carrillo Perez added groups may be excluded, and the council must be aware of this. Ms.
Sojourner asked the council to keep in mind, it is about quality vs. quantity.
Councilmember Mavity stated she likes the recommendations and is open to being more
creative on how work is done.
Councilmember Harris asked if the names of the commissions and boards can all be made
uniform and the same.
Ms. Deno stated staff can look at that and provide recommendations. Ms. Carrillo Perez added
that commissions and boards do not have a universal structure, so they are not all heard in the
same way and by the same channels, and staff will bring back recommendations to the council
on this.
Councilmember Rog added she supports overhauling the whole process. She also encourages
the public to present their ideas to commissions as a way to get them to the council.
Councilmember Harris added neighborhood associations can also serve as an avenue for folks
to be engaged on topics and help connect and engage residents more.
Councilmember Mavity disagreed, adding the council must be cautious though about how
much of a layer is being created between the council and the public, and also be careful on how
much scope is given to commissions.
Mayor Spano noted in a letter from Councilmember Brausen, he stated folks who want to
address the council on race equity issues should speak to the race equity commission. He added
he would like the parks and recreation commission to look more deeply into natural
environment and expanding park spaces. He further noted he is not in favor of putting BOZA on
the planning commission and is neutral on having a youth or senior advisory commission.
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Mayor Spano noted the council hears from commissions that they don't know what the council
wants from them, adding that a fully developed work plan that is approved by council would
help provide clarity. He stated he has no problem with term limits, these limits should apply to
the council as well, and must be consistent. Mayor Spano added he is open to eliminating some
of the commissions; however, is not certain which ones, and he is also interested in adding a
race equity commission, youth advisory and innovation commission.
Ms. Carrillo Perez asked the council about youth and seniors as it relates to boards and
commissions. She asked what*the council's end goal is and noted that adding more
commissions will increase the council's work load as well. She stated youth and senior
commissions are demographic -based and could cause a feeling of tokenization. She cautioned
the council to also ask them what they want and make sure they are engaging in that way, and
also noted they may not want to be part of government structure and this could limit what they
can do.
Ms. Carrillo Perez stated the council will need to make sure everyone is represented, and there
is a clear goal for each commission.
Ms. Sojourner added the way the commissions are run, is an older "boomer" style. Council will
need to realize many youth engage in different ways, including protest, and not sitting in board
meetings, and the council will need to think outside of the box.
Mayor Spano pointed out he wants to help the youth have some knowledge of government
structure, so they can figure their way through the system, help correct things that are wrong in
our community, and then change the structure at some point as well.
Councilmember Harris thanked staff for their insights, adding she learned about tokenization,
and is reflecting on that. She thanked them for challenging her thinking.
Mr. Harmening asked if instead of adding formal commissions, would ad hoc conversations or
gathering work instead, as it relates to youth and seniors.
Councilmember Mavity noted this will be a great discussion for the joint council/school board
meeting this fall.
Councilmember Rog stated seniors make up a large percentage of the community and are
interested in housing, transportation, healthcare, and special initiatives, pointing out she has
had many talks with Bob Ramsey, who is a spokesperson for St. Louis Park seniors.
Mr. Harmening noted staff will bring back more information and recommendations to council in
the near future.
Communications/Meeting Check -In (Verbal)
The meeting adjourned at 10:00 p.m.
Written Reports provided and documented for recording purposes only:
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5. June 2018 monthly financial report
6. Second quarter investment report (April — June 2018)
7. Cedar Lake Road improvement project scope update — project no. 4019-1100