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annual retreat
Environment & sustainability commission
St. Louis Park, Minnesota
12/4/2022
1. Call to order
1a. Roll call
Members present: Chair Andrew Willette, Vice Chair Shaina Ashare, Ryan Griffin, Sasha Shahidi,
Abigail Oppegaard, Mayer Bayer, Lillian Hertel, Eric Zweber, Tatiana Giraldo, Dave Wilsey, Paul
Zeigle
Members absent: Hailey Sexton, Ramil Goonetilleke
Staff present: Ms. Ziring, Sustainability Manager; Ellie Rabine, Sustainability Specialist; Annie
Pottorff, Sustainability Specialist
2. Unfinished business
a. Tree policy work group memo – one minor spelling error was fixed. Chair Willette
moved to approve, Commissioner Wilsey seconded, the motion passed.
b. Approve meeting minutes from Nov. 2, 2022: Commissioner Shahidi moved to
approve, Commissioner Bayer seconded, Commissioners Wilsey and Giraldo abstained.
The motion passed.
3. 2022 work plan review
Chair Willette reviewed 2022 workplan, including successful events the commission tabled at,
the lawncare survey, tree memo, and collaboration with University of Minnesota students.
Commissioner Bayer said that as chair she kept the 2022 workplan very similar to 2021, but this
year would encourage mixing it up a bit more.
Commissioner Shahidi requested a reminder email multiple times a year on the workplan.
Chair Willette proposed structuring the monthly agenda around the workplan.
Ms. Ziring asked if the workplan should be very broad and flexible? Or are there very specific
goals the commission wants to target for the year?
Commissioner Bayer asked if the group could look at other commission’s workplans for
guidance.
Commissioner Griffin stated the biggest accomplishment of the ESC has been to help advocate
for the staff that is needed to do this work. Focus used to be on everything and anything, and
there were many workgroups that weren’t able to accomplish much. Commissioners should
now prioritize how to work together and support full time staff.
Commissioner Griffin also shared that historically, the Climate Action Plan showed that it can’t
just be volunteers leading this effort. This was quite a big undertaking and there was a lot of
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energy from the commission and city leaders. The Environmentally Preferred Purchasing Policy
was also work that came out of this commission.
Commissioner Shahidi said she likes that people can be more actively involved in workgroups,
where before that was an expectation. But now it’s more flexible depending on what your
capacity is.
Ms. Ziring said she may have to pull the group back if the group’s interest veers outside the
Climate Action Plan, but otherwise workgroups are encouraged. Group also needs to recognize
what is under the purview of the commission. Transportation is an example of this and is
managed by engineering, so in cases like that staff needs to be on board.
Commissioner Griffin said the group could use a Venn diagram to show the overlap with
engineering and other divisions that sustainability touches to identify where projects would
land.
4. Climate action plan update
a. Overview of 2023 projects and programs - Ms. Ziring reviewed the history of the
Climate Action Plan.
Commissioner Griffin commented that mid-term goal impact should be used to guide
commission’s work. For example, it doesn’t make sense to focus on solid waste since
that has a 1.1% impact.
Commissioner Giraldo mentioned that school engineers might be good candidates for
the Building Operations Champion program.
Commissioner Griffin asked if the city has the funding to accomplish these goals. Ms.
Ziring responded that it’s more of a behavior change question. We need more
participation.
Commissioner Zeigle brought up that his house wasn’t a good solar candidate, and the
group discussed what the options are, including focusing instead on electrification.
Group discussed using natural/fossil gas or methane gas to describe natural gas.
b. Climate field evolution discussion
Ms. Ziring posed the question: if you were writing the CAP today, how would it look
different?
Vice Chair Ashare asked how could the ESC support electrification efforts?
Ms. Ziring shared there will be additional outreach to contractors in the coming months
to encourage electrification.
Commissioner Bayer asked if the ESC could write a letter to the representatives at the
state legislature to support building code advocacy?
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Ms. Ziring said she would talk to the city clerk.
Commissioner Griffin added if that is not possible, the commission could petition council
to write a letter of support.
Chair Willette asked if elected officials are already on board, how could the commission
help influence other communities?
Ms. Ziring recommended communicating through the commissions Listserv.
5. Big Questions
Commissioners broke into three small groups to discuss a series of “big questions” (questions
that explore philosophical topics within sustainability) that they drew at random. After 15
minutes of small group discussion, group re-formed to discuss questions in large group setting.
6. 2023 ESC Work Plan: “Amplify the Impact” action planning
a. Group brainstorm
Vice Chair Ashare began the activity by asking the group in what ways can we amplify
the impact this year? If last year was the year of the climate emergency, can this be the
year of amplifying the impact?
She instructed the group to spend 10 minutes writing down any or every idea where
there are challenges to getting people to engage. Ex: One of our issues is that we are not
getting enough participation in programs. What are action items to overcome that?
Vice Chair Ashare instructed the group to split into three small groups and take topic
buckets to look over ideas and incorporate them into our workgroup. How do we want
to develop our work plan for next year with these ideas in mind?
Group 1: Policy
Group 2: Marketing and engagement
Group 3: Solar/transportation, waste, business, partnerships, and misc.
b. Report out on 2023 work plan ideas
Commissioner Shahidi explained that Group 1 broke out policy buckets into smaller
buckets. Incentives, incentives for lower income households, taxes/fees, regulations,
external relations, etc.
Commissioner Bayer said that this relates back to item c on the existing workplan. We
need more specificity.
Commissioner Shahidi added that for taxes and fees, we talked about fees on high-
energy consumers and methods that go beyond incentives. Regulations has to do with
zoning, land-use and permits. How do we better utilize our permit data?
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Commissioner Griffin said Group 2 had marketing and outreach. He stated that
education tends to target people who want to hear it and misses those who don’t want
to hear it, don’t have time, etc. Preaching to the choir. He added they also had a focus
on schools.
Commissioner Zeigle said that ‘make it easy’ was also a theme of the group. How do we
make it easy to navigate state, federal, local, IRA, etc. How can anyone make sense of
this if even professionals struggle.
Commissioner Griffin added that we tend to follow the path of least resistance. He
spoke of the issue of emergency replacement of heating equipment. Can city staff jump
in on HES visits?
Commissioner Oppegaard added that the group also talked about some kind of survey
to point people towards what would be helpful for them – most people don’t have time
to research or educate themselves.
Commissioner Shahidi said that people need follow-up and guidance and hand-holding,
but there are only three city staff. What about ambassadors – can we focus on
educating the leaders so that they’re doing more of the hand-holding?
Ms. Ziring shared that there’s data privacy issues – we don’t know who has had an HES
visit without them sharing with us.
Commissioner Shahidi asked what about neighborhood ambassadors?
Vice Chair Ashare said that their group talked about having a case manager per building.
We have all these programs, we want participation, should we hyper-target a building or
two, put energy in, make it a case study, build it out, etc.
Commissioner Shahidi added that there’s a problem of people not even knowing how to
reach out to city or that they should. Firefighters come into classrooms and kids talk
about it for weeks. How do we make sustainability that exciting?
Commissioner Oppegaard suggested doing experiments or exhibits or presentations at
schools. She added that she has fond memories of the excitement when science staff
visited her elementary school to do in-class experiments. It was a very impactful
experience.
Commissioner Giraldo suggested getting more people to come into Westwood and do
exhibits and learn about the building.
Ms. Ziring shared the ways in which staff currently engages with and promotes the
Westwood Hills Nature Center and the building as a teaching tool.
Vice Chair Ashare stated that Group 3 landed on hyper-targeting and focusing resources
to have a couple of wins. She added that for transportation, until we make driving a big
pain it’s hard to create policies to change.
Ms. Ziring asked how can we incentive carpooling more?
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The group discussed the current school bus situation. Commissioner Giraldo shared that
you have to opt-in to bussing for schools currently, but Commissioner Oppegaard added
that there is still decently high ridership from her perspective at the high school.
Vice Chair Ashare said that there’s messaging we could do with sports and activities
related to bussing.
Commissioner Griffin asked what part of the infrastructure should we be considering?
Should we poll people?
Vice Chair Ashare listed three strategies (identifying focal points or targets, identifying
specific strategies, showcasing or pilot projects) and the link with schools and
organizations.
Commissioner Oppegaard asked if there is a way to get text notifications? She said not
many people her age are going to read email. Texting is a good way to get younger
adults involved.
Ms. Ziring stated she is not familiar with the city’s limitations on being able to text
people but would look into it.
Ms. Pottorff replied that the city does it with snow emergency – it’s an opt in.
Chair Willette said that they will digest all of these things and come up with a workplan
for the following year.
7. Adjournment – 1:01 p.m.
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Emily Ziring, staff liaison Andrew Willette, chair member