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August 16, 2023
7:05 p.m.
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Planning commission
Study session
Members present: Jim Beneke, Mia Divecha, Matt Eckholm, Katie Merten, Tom Weber, Jan
Youngquist
Members absent: Michael Salzer
Staff present: Laura Chamberlain, Jacquelyn Kramer, Melissa Kennedy, Michael Sund, Sean
Walther
1. Focus group on board and commission program purpose
Ms. Kennedy and Mr. Sund presented the report. They noted input collected from the
commission will be sent back to the city council for discussion of program purpose.
Responses to questions:
1. Explain your experience on the planning commission.
• Commissioner Divecha stated she is learning much and excited about having
input in the city development. She added it feels like it was an intellectual
exercise.
• Commissioner Youngquist stated she likes hearing about development projects
through the commission.
• Commissioner Eckholm stated opportunity to weigh in on development and
direction of the city and playing a role in helping SLP manage the housing crisis.
• Commissioner Beneke stated affordable housing, development, serving all
residents in these areas.
• Commissioner Merten stated seeing residents’ engagement on issues and lack of
engagement are interesting.
• Chair Weber stated it matters that this commission is a heftier one by law,
gratifying in knowing we are part of the purpose and the process. He added it
feels the council appreciates what we do, so the commission matters, and he
feels fulfilled in the role.
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2. How do you see your work aligning with the city’s strategic priorities:
• Commissioner Eckholm stated this board interacts with all the strategic priorities
directly.
• Commissioner Divecha stated neighborhood development is the major one. She
added in many cases it feels like the work is asking if this complies with code and
90% of the decisions are not about items that are out of scope of the
commission. Sometimes the scope of what the commission can do it limited, but
discussing equity and transportation does go beyond and she appreciates staff
bringing those items in. However, approvals are the majority of the work the
commission does.
• Commissioner Merten stated she agreed with this and added there is great
impact with zoning discussions and having a diverse group is helpful in changing
the old ways.
• Commissioner Youngquist stated some of the priorities of the city have to do
with the built environment and some with the social environment. She stated
the work we do does focus on the built environment , it does affect people, so
there is crossover.
• Chair Weber stated the social capital is achieved here pretty well, adding in large
part because Mr. Walther is our liaison and he appreciates the explanations staff
provides, and noting this is what we can and cannot do. This helps build trust
and social capital and this is important. He added Mr. Walther also does a good
job of providing that culture.
3. What do you think about the overall program and how could it be used to connect
with the community?
• Commissioner Eckholm stated there might be a better way to connect
feedback to meetings, and he noted the Edina program “Better Together
Edina” which is a way to collect feedback virtually.
• Chair Weber stated he likes the development coming signs but added using a
QR code for more information on projects and also to make comments. This
helps to get the word out and helps educate residents.
• Commissioner Eckholm added the development signs could be more
descriptive and help residents to engage more at the outset.
• Chair Weber stated having one meeting in every neighborhood is helpful
also, and on different times and day, especially for young people
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• Commissioner Merten stated some don’t come to meetings unless they have
something to complain about, but it’s nice when residents come to public
hearings to compliment an area or project also.
• Commissioner Eckholm stated he expected more engagement from the
public when he came on the commission and was surprised to see it so low
and only very rare.
• Commissioner Beneke agreed and added some people get cynical about the
process and think the city will just approve any development that come along
because that’s what they do.
4. Do your neighbors and friends ask about items in the city and your work on the
commission?
• Chair Weber said yes, and then they also just ask about roads. He added this
could be addressed with education.
• Commissioner Eckholm stated he sometimes asks friends what is going on in
their communities. He added the study sessions are really important for the
public to attend also, to hear about planning and upcoming projects, but no
one attends.
• Commissioner Eckholm stated it’s great the city does this work, but there is a
public perception that more needs to happen in public. But he added this can
get too detailed also, and more education on what happens in Planning
Commission and City Council would be helpful. He added people also need to
come to the big meetings, not just the ones that affect them and their
neighborhoods, in order to see how the process works.
• Commissioner Youngquist stated the 2050 plan is abstract for some but when a
project is proposed that’s across the street it’s easier to react.
• Commissioner Merten stated staff can post notices, and post on social media
and still there will be folks that say they haven’t heard about a project.
• Commissioner Divecha stated you can never post enough communication, and
pointed out there are those that just trust things are going well and don’t want
to spend their time becoming involved in the process, unless they is an issue.
She added being a governmental body, the city does owe the public all the
information and communication, but in a methodical way.
• Commissioner Eckholm stated the commission should not have to do all the
communication that staff does, but it’s nice to have communication and
education coming from the commissioners themselves, including postings on
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social media. He added general education on how the planning commission
works will help also.
• Commissioner Divecha stated it’s hard for her to know what to comment on,
not being on the city council. She stated she is not always certain what the role
is of being on the commission.
• Commissioner Merten agreed and added she has seen polls on Next Door and
when it’s a thing that’s passed, she is always uncertain if she can make a
comment. Commissioner Eckholm pointed out that as long as it’s in the past, it
is ok to comment or engage on a topic on social media, as a commissioner.
• Ms. Kennedy added the commissioners cannot conduct business outside of a
meeting. Chair Weber added this should be added into the orientation meeting
for commissioners, or a yearly refresher course would be helpful also.
5. How could the program be more inclusive to new members and reducing barriers to
participate?
• Commissioner Divecha stated Roberts Rules are a huge barrier. She feels
hampered by this process and is not clear on when she can ask a question, or
when you can comment. She stated she recognizes this as a tool, but it’s
difficult as a new member. She added she is not sure what alternatives exist.
She stated from an onboarding perspective this made it tough for her.
• Commissioner Divecha stated having childcare for commissioners and a small
stipend would be positive.
• Commissioner Eckholm stated finding ways to allow virtual participation
would be helpful especially for residents and made it easier for them to
engage, so they didn’t have to attend a whole meeting and just join when
their topic started.
• Commissioner Merten stated time change for the meeting might be helpful
also, possibly earlier.
• Commissioner Eckholm stated in other communities also, evening is the most
convenient meeting time for residents.
6. How could this program influence and build trust in the decision-making process of
the city council?
• Chair Weber stated clarification here is needed on which boards and
commissions have power to make decisions. He added it might be better to not
have a commission if people assume that commission will have the power to do
something if something negative happens.
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•Commissioner Divecha stated she wanted to join a commission but did not even
know planning commission was a legally mandated commission with decision-
making power. She thought it was only a discussion-type committee. She stated
some folks might not know about this, so more clarity in descriptions would be
helpful.
•Commissioner Eckholm stated the city should not keep a commission that the
city council does not listen to. He added if they are going to put the work in, then
the recommendations should be taken seriously. The planning commission does
have influence on the city council, but others may not.
•Commissioner Beneke added each commission should also decide what they
want to work on.
•Chair Weber stated if a development is posed there should be robust
information online and then meetings might be more well attended.
•Commissioner Divecha stated she does not feel the commission’s role is liaising
with the community, and that should be staff’s role. She added there is a desire
from the community and those on commissions to communicate, but the
infrastructure of the program makes this difficult.
•Chair Weber pointed to the development web pages where comments can be
left by the public, as a place for exchanging ideas and information.
7.Future of the boards and commissions program
•Commissioner Eckholm stated open community forums might be helpful to
engage residents more, and hosting engagement meetings in neighborhoods,
and recommendations can be made on ongoing projects, or topics. He added
possibly task forces can be created to encourage discussion and engagement and
allow people to have their voices heard, as well as to capture data.
Ms. Kennedy thanked the commission for their feedback and stated it aligns with much
of what they are hearing. She added they will come back to the commission with more
information and updates as this process progresses. She encouraged the commissioners
to give any further feedback to Mr. Walther.
2.Adjournment – 8:25 p.m.
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Sean Walther, liaison Tom Weber, chair member
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