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CHARTER COMMISSION MEETING
ST. LOUIS PARK, MINNESOTA
October 24, 2017
6:00 p.m. – Community Room, City Hall
1. Call to Order
Chair Maaske called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
2. Roll Call and Attendance
Members Present: Maren Anderson, JC Beckstrand, Jim Brimeyer, Gary Carlson, Jim de
Lambert, Terry Dwyer, David Dyer, Matthew Flory, Ken Gothberg, Sara Maaske, Andrew Rose,
Erin Smith, and Henry Solmer.
Members Absent: Lynne Carper (absence excused), Ron Jarvi, Jr.
Others Present: Nancy Deno (Deputy City Manager/HR Director), Soren Mattick (City Attorney),
and Melissa Kennedy (City Clerk)
New members Andrew Rose and Erin Smith introduced themselves to the commission.
3. Approval of Minutes
a. March 21, 2017 Charter Commission Meeting
It was moved by Commissioner Brimeyer, seconded by Commissioner Dyer, to approve the minutes
of March 21, 2017. The motion passed 13-0.
4. Old Business
a. Update on Approved Charter Amendment Eliminating Municipal Primary
Elections and Changing Candidate Filing Requirements
Ms. Kennedy informed the commission that the previously approved Charter amendment took
effect on August 16, 2017. New copies of the City Charter were provided to each commissioner
and the published version on the city website was also updated.
5. New Business
a. Proposed Charter Amendments related to Ranked Choice Voting and Campaign
Finance Contribution Limits
Chair Maaske asked staff to provide an overview of the purpose of the meeting and the request
from the City Council.
Ms. Kennedy stated that the City Council had discussed the topic of Ranked Choice Voting (RCV)
numerous times since 2006. She noted that the staff reports and minutes from the Council’s
previous discussions were provided in the Charter Commission’s agenda packet at the request of
Chair Maaske. She explained on October 2, 2017 the City Council adopted a resolution asking the
Charter Commission to study and make a recommendation as to whether the Charter should be
amended to provide for the use of RCV to elect candidates to the City Council beginning with the
2019 election, and whether the Charter should be amended to change campaign finance
contribution limits to match the limits set forth in statute.
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Mr. Mattick stated the questions before the Charter Commission were policy questions. He
explained the questions at this time are not related to how RCV would be administered, but rather
whether or not the City should implement RCV as the method by which candidates would be
elected to the city council. He noted that statute allows Charter cities the option to implement an
alternative voting method by amending the Charter, whereas statutory cities and school districts
do not currently have the same option.
Ms. Kennedy asked Mr. Mattick to review the Charter amendment process outlined in statute.
Mr. Mattick explained the City Council specifically asked the Charter Commission to consider
amending the Charter according to the process outlined in M.S. 410.12, Subd. 7. He noted that
this process required a positive recommendation of at least eight (8) members of the Charter
Commission and an ordinance to amend the Charter would require a unanimous vote of all 7
councilmembers. He stated under this statute an ordinance to amend the Charter, even if approved
by all 7 members of the Council, would not take effect until 90 days after passage and publication.
Within the first 60 days of that 90 day period, a petition requesting a referendum on the ordinance
may be filed with the city clerk. If the requisite petition is filed within that period, the ordinance
would not take effect until approved by the voters. He noted the Council would also have the
option, at that point, to choose not to move forward with the ordinance to amend the Charter.
Commissioner Dyer asked if the Charter Commission could make a recommendation to the City
Council to put the question on a ballot.
Mr. Mattick stated the commission could make such a recommendation. He explained the Council
would then vote on the recommendation as proposed by the Charter Commission.
Chair Maaske suggested splitting the two amendments and to focus the first part of the discussion
on the proposed amendment related to RCV. She stated it would be helpful to hear each
commissioner’s thoughts and questions on the RCV amendment to get an idea of where the
commission was at and to figure out a plan for how to move forward.
Commissioner de Lambert questioned if something had changed related to statutory authority since
the first time this topic was discussed.
Mr. Mattick stated he didn’t know that anything had changed per se, but did note that since that
time two cities, Minneapolis and St. Paul, have implemented and used RCV in their municipal
elections. He added that the constitutionality of RCV was challenged and the State Supreme Court
upheld its use.
Commissioner Brimeyer stated he is generally supportive of RCV but feels it is too early to make
a decision as further discussion is needed. He noted he did not want to see a scenario in which the
City could potentially elect a Mayor receiving less than 50% of the vote. He explained he would
not be in favor of a referendum because he felt they should be limited to issues related to finances
and the Council is elected to make policy decisions. He thinks it would be very difficult to educate
and inform voters on the concept of RCV in order to get them prepared to vote on the question.
He added he would like to see some draft language of the proposed Charter amendment.
Mr. Mattick stated a draft amendment could be put together fairly easily. He noted that the Charter
amendment would only provide for the use of RCV and the rules and procedures related to election
administration would be adopted by an ordinance requiring a simple majority vote of the Council.
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Commissioner Gothberg stated that RCV is a solution looking for a problem and he does not think
the concept is an all-encompassing solution. He explained the city does not know what the impact
will be yet of eliminating the primary because the new format will not be used until 2019. He
noted it would be a big mistake to not send the question to the voters if the city wants to pursue
RCV.
Commissioner Dyer stated he appreciates the concept of RCV but is not sure if a change is
necessary because he hasn’t seen a need and does not understand what the actual problem is that
the city is trying to address. He agreed that the decision should be up to the voters because it
affects their ability to vote and the way in which they elect their representatives.
Commissioner Flory stated he did not have a problem with RCV, but felt strongly that the question
should go to the public. He noted that civic engagement is an extreme source of pride in St. Louis
Park and residents appreciate a robust public process. He also expressed concern that having
multiple voting methods on the same ballot may be confusing for voters.
Commissioner Anderson stated she would like more information on experiences in other cities that
have used RCV, both successes and failures.
Commissioner Dwyer stated he supports the concept of RCV but does not feel that there is enough
data available to truly make a determination as to whether or not cities that use RCV actually
realize the outcomes they seek. He added until the method is more widely used people will always
be chasing a sufficient sample size of data to really evaluate the effectiveness of RCV. He
explained he felt the decision should be made by the City Council with a robust public process
because it is hard for people to educate themselves on ballot questions.
Commissioner Rose stated civic engagement is a big component of this question and if a change
is made a lot of education would be required up front, but over time people adapt to change. He
noted that he is in favor of seeking more technical and process improvements to help simplify the
administration of a RCV election. He supports moving forward and would also be ok with a
referendum if necessary.
Commissioner Beckstrand echoed Commissioner Gothberg’s sentiment that RCV is a solution
looking for a problem. He stated he looked at the question from many different angles and spoke
with election officials from Ramsey County, and had a hard time finding something that was a
tipping point that would require a change of this magnitude. He encouraged his colleagues not to
underestimate the importance of voter and election judge education and the undertaking that would
be for staff. He noted that although he is not opposed to the concept, he is not necessarily in favor
of making a change unless there is a strong reason to do so.
Commissioner Carlson stated he supports the concept of RCV in general and feels comfortable
letting the City Council make the decision given that there is an option for a reverse referendum
process included in M.S. 410.12, Subd. 7.
Commissioner de Lambert explained that he is open to considering the change and felt the request
from the Council was reasonable. He stated he is not thrilled with the election system as a whole
in the United States and he was in favor of at least making RCV an option.
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Commissioner Solmer stated he is open to the concept of implementing RCV but felt strongly that
the issue should not go to a referendum. He is in favor of gathering input from the public, but felt
the decision should be made by the Council.
Commissioner Smith stated she is in favor of RCV and does not like being limited to one choice
if there is a strong pool candidates. She added she struggles with the idea of a referendum because
the issue is not monetary and a lot of voters are uneducated when they go to the polls.
Chair Maaske explained her main concern is that there be a robust public process before a decision
is made. She expressed concern that the only public input was at the public hearing for the Charter
amendment to eliminate the Primary, and she does not feel that the public at large has had an
opportunity to be heard. She stated she is also unclear what the problem is that we are trying to
solve. The no Primary system has yet to be tested in St. Louis Park and she would like to see the
effects of that amendment and the increase in the number of signatures on a nominating petition.
She stated she is not sure that implementing RCV will result in more candidates or diversified
representation. She suggested that the Charter Commission outline the process they would like to
use to be able to form a recommendation for Council and present their questions to staff if
additional information is needed. She noted both Minneapolis and Duluth appointed a citizen task
force to independently study RCV and provide a recommendation to the Council, and both ended
up as questions on a ballot. She added she still has a number of questions she would like staff to
research.
1. What are the types of elections that are run in the Hennepin County cities that currently do
not have Primary elections? Are they all at-large seats? Do they elect the top vote getters
in one race to fill multiple seats?
2. Provide a rough cost estimate of the administrative costs related to the implementation and
administration of an RCV election.
3. Is there a study or analysis of campaign spending has changed in Minneapolis or St. Paul
elections since the implementation of RCV?
4. Have there been any studies related to incumbents and how often incumbents win both in
St. Louis Park and in cities where RCV is used?
Commissioner Beckstrand stated he would like a better understanding of any unintended
consequences of switching to RCV.
Ms. Kennedy explained that the city has to administer elections regardless of the process selected
and the Charter Commission’s decision should not be based solely on administrative factors
because staff will be prepared and will have the resources in place to run an election no matter
what voting method is used.
Commissioner Gothberg stated he would like staff to provide more information on the following:
1. Why did the ballot question fail in Duluth? What were the opinions of voters on that
process and ballot measure?
2. Why has RCV been repealed in other cities in the United States?
Ms. Kennedy reviewed the questions that were posed and stated staff would make every effort to
find the information, although some of the questions may be difficult to answer if no data exists.
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Ms. Deno reminded the Commission that the City Council had gone through their process and is
asking the Charter Commission for a recommendation. She noted the Commission could not
necessarily tell the City Council to undertake a separate public process.
The commissioners agreed that the topic of public process should be discussed at the next meeting.
It was moved by Commissioner Gothberg, seconded by Commissioner Beckstrand, to direct staff
to return with additional information in response to the questions raised by the Commission
related to Ranked Choice Voting, to prepare a draft Charter amendment for review, and to
schedule a follow-up meeting for additional discussion. The motion passed 13-0.
Chair Maaske asked for further explanation of the proposed amendment related to campaign
finance contribution limits.
Mr. Mattick explained that Section 12.04 of the City Charter limits campaign contributions to $250
per year and State statute limits campaign contributions to $600 in an election year. He stated
during the 2017 municipal election cycle, staff received several questions regarding this topic and
he was asked to provide an opinion as to which limit should govern campaign contributions in St.
Louis Park. In this instance he provided the opinion that the statute should govern and a candidate
may accept contributions up to $600 in an election year. He noted the primary reason for his
opinion is that the when adopting M.S. 211A.12, the Legislature specifically stated that provisions
of that section should supersede any home rule charter. He added that M.S. 211A.12 only
addresses campaign contribution limits, and the statute does not apply to other provisions of the
Charter.
Ms. Kennedy explained the City Council discussed this discrepancy and thought it would be best
for the Charter Commission to consider an amendment that would eliminate the conflict and
eliminate confusion for candidates in future elections.
Commissioner Dwyer asked if the commission should consider amending any of the other
provisions in the Charter related to campaign finance.
Mr. Mattick stated the conflict was specifically related to Section 12.04, Subd. 1, but noted he
would review again to ensure no other changes should be considered.
Commissioner Dwyer asked if the recommendation was to eliminate the language altogether or to
change the limits to match what is set forth in statute.
Mr. Mattick stated the safest option would be to simply reference the statute so if the limits were
to change in the future another Charter amendment would not be required.
The consensus of the Commission was to reference M.S. 211A.12 and the limits as defined.
Mr. Mattick stated he would prepare a draft amendment for consideration at the next meeting.
6. Future Meetings
The Charter Commission scheduled their next meeting for December 6, 2017 at 5:30 p.m. The
meeting will be held in the Westwood Conference Room on the 3rd floor of City Hall.
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7. Communications - None
8. Adjournment
It was moved by Commissioner Carlson, seconded by Commissioner Flory, to adjourn the meeting.
The motion passed 13-0.
The meeting adjourned at 7:45 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by: Melissa Kennedy, City Clerk