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Parks & Recreation Advisory Commission
September 7, 2016, 6:30 p.m. Meeting
Rec Center
1. Call to Order
Ms. Foulkes, Chair, called the meeting to order at 6:30 p.m.
Commission members present: Rich Bluma, George Foulkes, Sarah Foulkes, Elizabeth Griffin,
George Hagemann, Edward Halvorson, Tiffany Hoffmann and Peter May.
Ms. Walsh and members welcomed Mr. Bluma to the Commission. She indicated
Commissioners may also be part of other task forces or subcommittees set up in the city.
Commission members absent: None.
Staff present: Jason Eisold, Rec Center Manager, Jacqueline Larson, Communications and
Marketing Manager, Stacy Voelker, Recording Secretary, Cindy Walsh, Director of Operations
and Recreation and Jason West, Recreation Superintendent.
Guests present: J. Marie Fieger, Nemer Fieger, Les Hazelton, Nemer Fieger, Lisa Greene, St.
Louis Park Community Education, Michael Gilbert, community member and St. Louis Park
School employee and Bob Ramsey, community member.
2. Presentations
None.
3. Approval of Minutes
a. April 20, 2016
Commissioner Hagemann requested a spelling correction to his name on page two, fifth
paragraph, first sentence in paragraph.
It was moved by Commission member G. Foulkes, seconded by Commission member
Griffin to approve the April 20, 2016 meeting minutes as amended.
The motion passed 8 – 0.
4. New Business
a. Tour of Outdoor Facility (Jason Eisold)
Mr. Eisold distributed the latest rendering of the outdoor facility while touring the site.
Some of the amenities that will be included are locker rooms, fire pit, parking lot and a
glulam fabric as roof. The facility will have an ice rink in the winter, turf field in the
spring and dry floor for summer use. The ice rink will be a full NHL rink and include a
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scoreboard and public announcing system. Mr. Eisold explained there will be fencing and
sod added between the outdoor facility and the Aquatic Park. There are cameras installed
which take time-lapse photos documenting progress of the project from the date the first
dirt was moved and will continue to project end.
Mr. Eisold then moved the tour inside the Rec Center to view the new refrigeration room,
which supplies power to all three arenas, the west arena, which is complete, and the
current reconstruction of the east arena. In the west arena, the cooling, ice, boards and
lights were replaced. The arena was also painted during the project. The same
replacements are currently occurring in the east arena and the east arena is scheduled to
be open October 31. There are nine miles of refrigeration tubing in each of the arenas
inside the Rec Center and 10 miles of refrigeration tubing in the outdoor rink. The lights
were replaced with LED lights for an expense of approximately $44,000. Along with the
cost savings LED lighting provides, the city will also receive a rebate from Xcel Energy
for approximately $24,000.
Both projects are on schedule and on budget.
b. Outdoor Facility Naming (Nemer Fieger and Task Force)
Ms. J. Marie Fieger from Nemer Fieger introduced herself and her presenter, Les
Hazelton.
Mr. Hazelton explained Nemer Fieger was the firm chosen through a Request for
Proposal process initiated by the City. Three meetings were spent with staff to understand
new facility and then began research. A task force / focus group was created from various
stakeholders in the city to discuss potential names and reasons for suggested names. The
question proposed was “what name would fit a multi-purpose facility next to the Rec
Center in St. Louis Park?” Nemer Fieger recorded input, opinions and discussions from
the task force. The organization brought the results of the input back to the task force for
discussion. With the aid of a visual of the completed facility, they discussed how to
accomplish the goals of the city as an innovative destination, what the facility will be
used for and the perception of the facility. Anything that would fit into the venue was
taken into consideration, Mr. Hazelton explained.
The names that rose to the top of the list through the discussions include Arches Pavilion
(used modifier with name of facility), Canopy Park or Canopy Pavilion, The 3 – 6 Center
(used its location), The Crown / Crown Rec (shape and jewel of St. Louis Park), The East
End (Rec Center and facility as destination on the carved notch on the east side of the
city), The ARCHES (acronym: Athletic / Recreation / Community / Health / Education /
Skating) and The ROC (Recreation Outdoor Center). The focus group review the names,
shared their ideas, and then voted on the proposed names. The results, in the order of
most votes received, were: The ARCHES, The ROC and The Canopy.
Mr. Hazelton opened for comments or questions. Ms. Lisa Greene advised she was part of
the task force and felt the process was well facilitated and acquired feedback from every
person in the room. Mr. Hagemann noted during the discussions, people changed their
opinion on their perspective and migrated to the final results. Ms. Griffin commented the
young kids (ages 20-21) loved the ROC and are currently using that amongst their age
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group. Ms. Walsh mentioned the difficulty with the name association of ROC as there’s
no quarry nor place marker associated with the name.
The stone arch bridge and the Arch in Missouri were all discussed in the task force, Mr.
Hazelton mentioned. They originally had 157 potential names in the beginning. Feels
there must be a story around the name to build the marketing for the facility. Mr.
Hazelton indicated that regardless of what name is chosen, once it’s initiated, it would
cultivate to the structure.
Ms. Griffin indicated her kids and friends (ages 20-21) loved the ROC. She personally
likes the Arches but does not like the Canopy. Ms. Foulkes feels we need to decide what
crowd is the focus for the facility. The High School crowd would like ROC, she likes the
Arches as she feels it appeals to the older crowd, but does not like Canopy. Ms. Hoffman
advised it was fun being a part of the task force. She personally prefers the Arches or
ROC but feels the Arches could be more inclusive. Mr. Bluma likes the simplicity of the
ARCHES. He’s still thinking about the ROC at the Rec. There is a lot of concrete so is a
big rock… it makes sense. Mr. May likes the Arches and ROC in that order. He suggested
setting a big rock in the area if ROC is selected. He also likes the ARCHES. Mr. Foulkes
prefers Arches Pavilion or ARCHES. ROC is okay and Canopy is undesirable. Mr.
Gilbert is drawn to ROC as it is short, smooth and appeals to the younger crowd. Mr.
Ramsey feels the name is very important as it is the perception of the building. He feels
there is an important link between the visual aspect of the facility and the ARCHES. But,
ROC also has a ring to it. Mr. Hagemann feels the ARCHES lends more to a multi
facility. He likes ROC better as fun name but balancing it with a more mature, wider
audience may be challenging. Ms. Greene has a preference for the ARCHES but likes
ROC’s appeal to the younger crowd. The city needs to determine who their main target is.
Mr. Halvorson prefers the ROC, Canopy, and ARCHES, in that order. He feels young
people will call it the ROC regardless.
Members discussed how to appeal to adult reservations / usage if called the ROC.
Hopefully the name will not deter rentals of any age.
Ms. Walsh thanked all for the great feedback. Ms. Walsh advised the feedback received
from the Commission, along with the results from the task force, will be presented to the
City Council. The City Council will make the final decision on the name of the facility.
Once the name is chosen, work will begin on creating a logo.
Ms. Walsh thanked all for their involvement in this process. Members thanked Nemer
Fieger and the task force for their work.
c. Commission Sponsored Appreciation Luncheon (Sept. 14) Discussion
Ms. Griffin provided a brief description of the luncheon for the members. The annual
luncheon is hosted by the Commission for the employees of Parks and Recreation to
show their appreciation for all they do. The Commission provides and prepares grilled hot
dogs, hamburgers, salads, etc.
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Mr. Foulkes inquired if the police department should be invited to the luncheon for their
service. Members agreed to discuss after this year’s event. It was suggested to invite the
bike patrol, which was approved by the members. Ms. Walsh will invite.
Ms. Foulkes, Mr. Foulkes and Mr. May are unable to attend the luncheon on September
14. Members discussed and decided to hold it on Tuesday, September 20 as most
members are available that date.
The discussion focused on items to bring and what each person will provide. Ms. Voelker
will email the last of past items provided and members will indicate what they will
provide at the luncheon. This list will be continually shared with all members.
5. Old Business
a. Skate Park Relocation Update (Jason West)
Mr. West advised in 2015 staff interviewed at least 25 skate park users and received great
feedback. Two potential sites were toured for the relocation of the skate park (formerly
located on the west side of The Rec Center), Melrose Institute and Carpenter Park. The
group preferred Carpenter Park as the location of the skate park. The skate park is
temporarily located at Nelson Park.
Mr. West indicated the skate park will have a new design from what was located near The
Rec Center and will encompass approximately 12,000 square feet. Staff also learned from
the users what equipment is preferred. Jason West and Rick Beane (City Staff), teamed
up with Rich Bluma (PRAC member), Mark Rodriguez (Third Lair Skate Park), and
Scott Oreschnick (Cal-Surf) to create a sub-committee that are currently reviewing a
Request for Proposal (RFP), help choose the vendor, and work with the users to research
the equipment to include in the skate park. Once the RFP is approved by the sub-
committee, it will be sent to vendors, the proposals will be reviewed, selected vendors
may be interviewed, and a vendor will be chosen.
Ms. Walsh advised that separate from this project, but on a parallel track, the Engineering
Department needs to create a storm water retention pond on the Carpenter Park site. An
engineer will be invited to a future Commission meeting to discuss retention needs and
potential for the site.
Mr. West showed various ideas of a plaza-style skate park, which will be very different
from what the city had in the past. Mr. May inquired if the new skate park could be
utilized by skate boards, roller blades and bicycles. Mr. West will discuss with the vendor
to find out if the ramp transition is adequate.
6. Staff Communication
a. Blackstone Park Playground Update
Ms. Walsh advised members Paul Bierhaus from Kids Around The World reviews the
city’s old playground equipment that is being replaced, to determine if it can be used in
third world countries. The organization evaluates and chooses one or two annually, they
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help with removal of the old equipment, work with the manufacturer to fix the equipment
then they ship it to other countries for use. Ms. Walsh spoke with Mr. Bierhaus and most
individuals from Kids Around the World that work on the playgrounds are from varying
aspects of process and always looking to recruit members to assist. Not many cities work
with this organization. It takes additional time to replace playgrounds as staff schedules
the dismantling of the playground with Kids Around The World. They have great people
that love the program making it successful.
b. Conflict of Interest
Ms. Walsh reminded members to abstain from voting and commenting on items that may
have an impact on their private business, professional business or volunteer life. The city
is reminding all commissions. Staff can inquire with the City Attorney any areas that are
gray.
7. Member Communication
Mr. Foulkes suggested members and staff view the Foundry Dance on You Tube. It is individual
images put together with music, in the creation of a bronze sculpture. The city could create
something similar to present the Outdoor Facility on their webpage. Staff will mention to
Jacqueline Larson, Communications Manager.
Mr. Hagemann advised of a new development in the West End / Central Park area. The
development will include commercial businesses on the first floor, bike facilities, parking for
commuters and restaurant / coffee facility. The landscape plan includes a walkway, benches,
lighting and sculpture / water feature in middle. A committee, including Friends of the Arts, will
view proposals from artists and discuss with developer.
The annual Arts and Culture Grant process will be ending soon and a great number of applicants
have been received. The Arts and Culture Grant committee will review and award the applicants
in October.
8. Other / Future Agenda Items
The next regular meeting will be held on Wednesday, October 19, 2016.
9. Adjournment
It was moved by Commission member Hagemann and seconded by Commission member G.
Foulkes to adjourn at 8:08 p.m.
The motion passed 8 - 0.
Respectfully submitted,
Stacy Voelker
Stacy Voelker
Recording Secretary