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OFFICIAL MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION
ST. LOUIS PARK, MINNESOTA
MARCH 16, 2016 – 6:00 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
MEMBERS PRESENT: Torrey Kanne, Claudia Johnston-Madison,
Lisa Peilen, Richard Person, Carl Robertson,
MEMBERS ABSENT: Lynne Carper, Joe Tatalovich
Ethan Rickert (youth member)
STAFF PRESENT: Sean Walther, Debra Heiser, Greg Hunt
1. Call to Order – Roll Call
2. Approval of Minutes of February 17, 2016 and March 2, 2016
Commissioner Person moved approval of the minutes of February 17, 2016.
Commissioner Peilen seconded the motion, and the motion passed on a vote of 3-
2 (Kanne and Robertson abstained). Commissioner Robertson moved approval
of the minutes of March 2, 2016. Commissioner Person seconded the motion,
and the motion passed on a vote of 4-1 (Peilen abstained).
3. Public Hearings
A. Excelsior & Monterey (Bridgewater Dominium Addition)
Preliminary Plat with Variances and
Preliminary Planned Unit Development
Location: 4400, 4424 Excelsior Blvd.; 3743 Monterey Dr.
Applicant: St. Louis Park Leased Housing Associates I, LLC
Case Nos.: 15-32-S, 15-33-PUD, 15-46-VAR
Sean Walter, Planning and Zoning Administrator, presented the staff report. He
reviewed the request for preliminary plat with variances. The preliminary plat
combines three existing parcels to be created into two new parcels and dedicates
right-of-way to surrounding streets where road easements currently exist. He
explained that the variances regard drainage and utility easement width reduction.
Mr. Walther presented the Planned Unit Development analysis including zoning,
building/site design, shadow study, parking, access, landscaping, and Designed
Outdoor Recreation Area (DORA).
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Mr. Walther discussed the traffic study in detail. The study incorporates traffic
studies of the Bridgewater site, the former Bally’s site and a level of background
growth. The Park Commons Dr./Monterey leg of the intersection on Park
Commons Dr. (going eastbound) does experience a delay currently and the delay
will get worse with the development. Mr. Walther said the City Council directed
staff to explore alternatives that might improve operations at that particular
intersection whether or not the development goes forward. He discussed the
option recommended by City Council to add a dedicated right turn lane on Park
Commons Dr. With this one improvement it will be improved from a Level of
Service D to a Level of Service C with development, which is rated Acceptable.
Mr. Walther reviewed the public process associated with the proposed
development.
Commissioner Peilen asked if the entrance on Excelsior Blvd. was for commercial
use only.
Mr. Walther responded the Excelsior Blvd. entrance is for commercial use only.
Commissioner Peilen asked if the developer ever considered Excelsior Blvd. the
primary entrance and exit.
Mr. Walther responded he was not aware of any previous designs that considered
that option.
Commissioner Person asked if the recommended option of Alternative 2 was
adopted by resolution.
Mr. Walther said it was direction to staff at a study session that the improvement
should be included in the city’s Capital Improvement Plan. The CIP will be
generated in the coming months.
Commissioner Kanne asked if the traffic study went down Excelsior Blvd.
towards Hwy. 100 at peak hours and looked at congestion there.
Mr. Walther responded that the study results extended to Quentin and Excelsior.
He said that congestion at Excelsior/Hwy. 100 has previously been identified in
the Comprehensive Plan. He noted there are limited solutions the city has for
that. The city has explored using more frequently yellow flashing lights
throughout intersections. That could be explored more with Hennepin County as
Excelsior is a county road. The city does not have direct control on when and
how those improvements are made.
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Chair Johnston-Madison said approaching the entrance for Level 1 parking for
bank and retail to turn in you have to be going west on Excelsior. She asked if the
traffic study took into account how much traffic would result off of Monterey
from the opposite direction.
Mr. Walther said the driveway locations and motions were known and the
situation she described was part of the model.
The Chair spoke about 50 units/acre and higher densities allowed with PUD. The
zoning table indicates there are 80.8 units/acre.
Mr. Walther explained that for purposes of the report and presentation he used the
higher number for Lot 1 alone. No residential units are proposed on Lot 2. The
overall residential density of both lots combined would be 69.9 units/acre.
Chair Johnston-Madison asked about height perception from the north with
underground parking levels resulting in the building looking like eight stories.
The Chair asked if any of the eight traffic alternatives, other than Alternate 2,
were still in play.
Mr. Walther responded that all alternatives were shared with City Council. The
staff did not recommend the other alternatives. One of them was the idea of
doing a traffic signal at Park Commons Dr. One of the criteria staff used for
recommendation was that whatever intervention was made to improve that one
leg of Park Commons Dr. would not negatively impact other intersections.
Excelsior Blvd. is a major road and needs to take priority over a secondary road.
The Chair asked Mr. Walther to address Alternative 8.
Mr. Walther said all alternatives were considered and all but three were
dismissed. Alternative 8, closing Park Commons Dr., would add a new street
going through park land. It would be very expensive, with a number of
limitations to pursuing that option.
Commissioner Person asked about the north access designated as move in/move
out only and easement.
Mr. Walther said there is a 20 foot access easement across the nursing home
property that connects to the service court in that building. Earlier concepts
explored the idea of splitting traffic so all of the P2 parking would exit and enter
that site from the driveway. By dispersing the traffic in that manner it makes all
intersections better. There were concerns from the nursing home about how wide
of a space is available there for emergency vehicles. Residents also raised
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objections to additional traffic on 36 ½ St. The developer is not proposing to
have additional access to that location.
Chair Johnston-Madison referred to page 19 of the traffic study regarding access
B and C proposed to be 140 ft. apart along Monterey Dr. She referred to
MnDOT spacing guidelines of 330 ft. for urban collector roadways. She asked if
the City Council discussed those figures.
Mr. Walther said City Council was presented that information but it was not
discussed in any detail.
Debra Heiser, Engineering Director, said the figures were noted in the traffic
study and presented to the City Council. She stated that the reality on urban
arterials and collectors is if 330 ft. were applied to every driveway access in the
city many driveways would have to be closed. When looking at the speed of the
street and the vehicles using these driveways staff feels that 140 ft. is adequate for
the site lines, adequate for safety and adequate for these driveways on Monterey.
She said staff would not support it otherwise.
Ron Mehl, Dominium Development, applicant, spoke about the company and the
development proposal. He said they have worked hard to address concerns and
worked hard to create two separate entrances for commercial space and residential
parking. He answered commissioner questions regarding resident and guest
parking.
Chair Johnston-Madison opened the public hearing.
A letter from William Weber, 3824 Huntington, was read into the record by
Dennis Morin, 4509 W. 36 ½ St., #303. In his letter Mr. Weber urged the
commission to reject the applications for preliminary plat and preliminary PUD
for the proposed development.
Eleanore Martin, 4820 Park Commons Dr., #233, said with the large apartment
building going up at the former Bally’s site she didn’t understand why another
large complex was needed at Excelsior and Monterey. She said she understood
the city fathers believe in encouraging small businesses so it makes no sense to
force out established businesses, such as TechLine, to make room for a complex
that nobody wants. She said Excelsior Blvd. will look like a cross between a
wind tunnel and a traffic jam.
Jan Anderson, 4517 W. 36 ½ St., said besides traffic and noise she is concerned
about trees being removed which are homes to wildlife. She said she is
concerned about the small businesses that have been asked to leave. She said they
won’t come back. She said two businesses have gone to Edina. She commented
that the commercial spaces will be boring things that people won’t spend much
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time enjoying. Ms. Anderson said in the past the walk from Monterey to
Slumberland has been fun. There are trees and the businesses are fun. That will
all be gone. She said she is concerned that her own rent will increase due to the
development.
Denise Davis, 4820 Park Commons Dr. condominium, Wolfe Park neighborhood
association vice chair, said neighbors are concerned about traffic, increased crime,
congestion and dropping property values. Transients will be moving in. She
said she has lived in St. Louis Park for 32 years. Neighbors tell her that they are
unwilling to give up their cars. People in her building are a little bit older. Some
have impediments and can’t walk to a light rail station. She spoke about
pedestrians often crossing Excelsior illegally. The neighborhood is growing very
rapidly. She said she’d like to see a moratorium on any future development until
the ramifications are known about traffic, congestion and parking at 4900
Excelsior.
Patti Carlson, 3801 Inglewood Ave. S., 40 year resident, said she feels betrayed
by the city for this development. In spite of the traffic study, it is very difficult to
cross Excelsior Blvd. because of people turning left into Trader Joe’s and
sometimes turning right into the small businesses. Trader Joe’s is a mess. Now
there will be another situation with two uncontrolled opposing streets. It feels a
lot like Wooddale to her. She said she can understand having a dedicated left and
right turn lane. But she said there are problems with being in right turn lane and
the left turn driver edges forward resulting in difficulty telling if the other drive
can go forward. She requested no yellow arrows for crossing Excelsior. She said
it is dangerous enough as it is and the pedestrian crossing signal is the only
protection pedestrians have crossing Excelsior. She said she feels her
neighborhood is blocked off from getting to Highway 100 or the library. She
said the traffic study wasn’t done on a Saturday afternoon near Trader Joe’s. She
spoke about lack of light in the winter and ground floor units. She said she didn’t
find the shadow studies acceptable. She said she didn’t appreciate the traffic
study ratings of acceptable. She said she would like the consideration of the
human effects of this development.
Terry Warner, 3020 Florida Ave. S., said the proposed development is being built
in the wrong place. He spoke about the vacant areas between Hwy. 100 and Hwy.
169 on Minnetonka Blvd. that would have less traffic problems and good bus
service for development. He suggested the use of roundabouts on Monterey.
Meghan Phimister, 3451 Zarthan Ave., 30 year resident, asked if the commercial
parking level and residential parking levels were accessible to each other.
Ron Mehl, applicant, said residential parking, except for guest parking, is
connected inside the ramp that drops down under the commercial space.
Residents can enter the building from the ramp by fob access only.
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Ms. Phimister discussed the petition with 330 resident signatures which residents
gave to the City Council about one year ago. She said that night the city went
ahead with its vision for Excelsior and Monterey. Tonight the city is hearing the
neighborhood vision for the corner. She hoped the city could listen and take a
step back look back to look at this area and the surrounding area. She spoke
about the new ice rink and a new community center which will create more
traffic. She said every time she comes to the city she’s discussing little
individual projects and is concerned the city doesn’t look at the entire view.
People are concerned about infrastructure, mobility, walkability and over-
saturation of apartments. She said she lives close to the PLACE proposal right on
7 and Wooddale and struggles with commuting through that area to get to Trader
Joe’s and then has to deal with the traffic there. She said she hopes the
Commission comes to talk about PLACE and doesn’t support moving forward
with that project because that is being pushed in as well.
Alberto Bertomeu, 4419 Excelsior Blvd., said it is an emotional issue and it takes
time for listening and venting. He said he isn’t for or against the project. He said
he owns buildings surrounding the property. Honey and Rye is a small business
succeeding in an area of larger projects. Ciel has signed a lease for his property
across the street. Techline moved to Edina when it merged with another
company. He said he is trying to keep some small businesses intact. He said he
owns the Jiffy Carwash. He spoke about the good design and scale of the
Bridgewater Bank building. He said he knows traffic is a problem. He spoke
about difficulties for pedestrian crossing of Excelsior and Boulevard and general
lack of respect shown to pedestrians by drivers.
Phil Freshman, 3912 Natchez, 25 year resident, spoke about very little
consideration for people living in the area. There is the ice rink, 4900 Excelsior,
and now Bridgewater development. There are impacts collectively to this area.
He said the fixes on Park Commons Dr. are a band-aid. He said he doesn’t hear
anything about ameliorations in the neighborhoods. He spoke of Natchez which
is used by vehicles going 40 mph to avoid Excelsior Blvd. On his block there are
about 15 kids under age 12. The proposal is misguided and it is about raising
property tax income to invest for the ice rink and other projects. He said it is
tremendously harmful in general. He said had he known about the petition he
would have signed it. He hopes the petition can be recirculated. The city is
imposing the developments on the neighborhood and saying the neighborhood
should deal with it.
Jon Schaefer, 3914 Lynn, resident since 1965, asked what evidence the
commission doesn’t already have in the last two years that will allow for a no vote
for the development. 330 petitions? Has it been looked at and listened to? How
tall is too tall for a development? How much congestion is too much congestion
for the neighborhood? How does a luxury apartment building help St. Louis Park
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residents who want to stay but are unable to stay because they can’t afford the
apartments? How does it help small businesses stay in St. Louis Park?
Nino Pedrely, 3755 Glenhurst Ave., 10 year resident, discussed Tax Increment
Financing (TIF). He asked why projects in a fairly established neighborhood
can’t be done on a market rate basis since we’re at the top of the apartment
development cycle.
Mr. Walther stated there isn’t a TIF application at this stage. There are no details
for any agreement at this time.
Greg Hunt, Economic Development Coordinator, spoke about a typical TIF
project where the base taxes would continue to accrue to the respective taxing
jurisdiction. It is the added value from the development that potentially could be
used to reimburse the developer for certain extraordinary costs incurred in the
development. He said the city has a policy in which projects are required to pay
for the fiscal disparities from the project itself.
Dennis Morin, 4509 W. 36 ½ St, #303, 39 year resident, asked the developer if
Access B and C have changed or if they are the same as originally proposed.
Mr. Mehl, applicant, responded that Access B and C have not changed.
Mr. Morin asked if 83% of the apartments are 1 or 2 bedroom units. He asked
how many of the units are affordable.
Chair Johnston-Madison said 20% of the units are affordable.
Mr. Morin distributed a document titled 4400 Exc. Blvd. Traffic Study, May 1,
2015. Access B and C are proposed 140 feet apart along Monterey Dr. He
referenced MnDOT spacing guidelines of 330 feet.
Debra Heiser, Engineering Director, spoke about the guideline. Staff looked at
vehicles on Monterey and determined that 140 ft. spacing is adequate. There are a
number of driveways like this in the city. Staff does not find this will be unsafe.
It can move ahead as it is. Ms. Heiser said it is important, as the developer
indicated, to separate the residential and commercial accesses.
Mr. Morin said Monterey is a major collector of 11,000 cars/day in an urban area
which is a lot different from driveways in a residential neighborhood. He
discussed B and C access with six left turns and six right turns all in 140 feet on
Monterey. He said it is an atypical area with one Excelsior & Grand, one Trader
Joe’s and one Bridgewater. He said it is an unsafe and tightly compressed
driveway access plan and they ask the Commission to deny approval of the PUD
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and ask the staff and developer to create a safer and more improved site access
plan so the project can move forward.
Ron Mehl, applicant, said they will look at the accesses again but believe that the
access to the north is a sufficient distance and will provide good visibility to the
residents coming out of it. He said they will do more studies on that to share with
the City Council. The existing businesses have not expressed an interest in
staying and they will have the opportunity to lease in that space if they choose.
He said he understands there will be a rent difference. He doesn’t know what that
amount is right now. Extensive criminal and credit background checks are done
on their residents. Dominium does not have a crime problem in any of their
developments. He said they will try work on illegal pedestrian crossing and will
address that with planters and landscaping and trying as best they can to direct
pedestrian traffic to intersections from this development. The new development
will help in particular with affordability so that people are not priced out of this
community. There are 35 units for persons making up to 50% of median income
in Hennepin County. 48% of the units are one bedroom, 48% are two bedroom
and 4% are 3 bedroom.
The Chair added into the record correspondence from Russell Redman, 3833
Kipling Ave. S. Mr. Redman wrote in opposition to the development.
Chair Johnston-Madison closed the public hearing as no one else was present
wishing to speak.
Commissioner Robertson said it is the kind of application the Commission
struggles with. We hear the neighborhood concerns and opposition. In reference
to moratorium, he said the city is coming to the time of doing its Comprehensive
Plan again and a lot has happened in the last 10 years. It would be good to
restudy the whole area and see where it wants to go. In the meantime, it is
owner’s right to sell property and develop it. He discussed pedestrian concerns.
He said in his business as an architect he works with engineers all the time and
there is a certain amount of trust in the models that are used. He said the project
is well-designed, well sited, and the stepping down design is good along
Monterey. He uses shadow studies all of the time. He said he will give a move
ahead vote.
Commissioner Peilen said she has also struggled as she hears the concerns. She
spoke about development in her own neighborhood. She knows Dominium’s
work and it has a good reputation and runs good buildings without problems. The
design is good and the project is well thought through. She said with numerous
reservations she is willing to give it a move ahead vote.
Commissioner Person spoke about the problems with left turns out of Access A
and B. He said in the future the city would have to consider prohibiting those left
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turns. Developing the north access into a full residential access would mitigate a
lot of that problem. He said he hears the neighborhood issues but the
Commission needs to determine if the proposal conforms with the PUD
ordinance.
Commissioner Kanne said it is a livability issue. She said no one she has spoken
to in St. Louis Park likes the project. She stated she doesn’t like small businesses
leaving and she doesn’t like cookie cutter buildings going up. She said she has
serious reservations and will probably vote in opposition to the project.
The Chair said it is a quality project with a good developer. She said her position
hasn’t changed since the Comprehensive Plan request. She said if the
development had come out of a development guidelines process created like the
one for Excelsior & Grand and for the Ellipse site, she would have a different
perspective on this development. Development guidelines have been worked on
for the south side of Excelsior Blvd. and some good things are in place. She said
there are no development guidelines for the north side of Excelsior from Ellipse to
Monterey. It was asked for by residents almost a year ago. She said she has
concerns about traffic. Chair Johnston-Madison said we need to look at, at least
in this community, not just capacity on a road but the quality of life for people in
that area. If we want Excelsior Blvd., Excelsior and Monterey, 36 ½ St. and Belt
Line Blvd. to be a walkable community we are going the wrong way. She said
she would not be voting in favor.
Commissioner Robertson made a motion recommending approval of the
Preliminary Plat with Subdivision Variances and Preliminary Planned Unit
Development (PUD) with meeting notes and comments provided to Council.
Commissioner Person seconded the motion, and the motion passed on a vote of 3-
2 (Johnston-Madison and Kanne opposed).
4. Other Business
A. Consideration of Resolution – Wayzata Boulevard TIF District
Conformance with Comprehensive Plan
Greg Hunt, Economic Development Coordinator, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Person asked how often the city takes action to create a TIF
District without a development proposal.
Mr. Hunt said this is an unusual circumstance but in this case the city will lose its
ability to create a TIF District due to statutorily only having 3 years after a
demolition to create a TIF District.
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Commissioner Peilen asked about the necessity to attract a developer and the
extraordinary costs of developing the site.
Mr. Hunt said that is part of the equation in developing the site. He added that it
is a very attractive and highly visible site.
Commissioner Robertson made a motion recommending approval of the
resolution finding that the proposed Tax Increment Financing Plans for the
establishment of Wayzata Boulevard Tax Increment Financing District conform
to the general plans for the development and redevelopment of the City.
Commissioner Peilen seconded the motion, and the motion passed on a vote of 5-
0.
5. Communications
The April 6 Planning Commission meeting has been canceled. The Commission
will meet on April 20.
6. Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at 8:20 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Nancy Sells
Recording Secretary