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M I N N E S 0 T A CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL STUDY SESSION
ST. LOUIS PARK, MINNESOTA
JUNE 5, 2017
The meeting convened at 6:00 p.m.
Councilmembers present: Mayor Jake Spano, Tim Brausen, Steve Hallfin, Gregg Lindberg,
Anne Mavity, Thom Miller, and Susan Sanger.
Staff present: City Manager (Mr. Harmening), City Attorney (Mr. Mattick), Deputy City
Manager/Human Resources Director (Ms. Deno), City Clerk (Ms. Kennedy), and Recording
Secretary (Ms. Pappas).
Guest: Jeanne Massey, Executive Director, Fair Vote Minnesota; Deb Brinkman, League of
Women Voters.
1. Ranked Choice Voting
It was noted that the council previously discussed the topic of Ranked Choice Voting (RCV) on
several occasions in 2006, 2010 and 2012. Most recently, on April 17, 2017, the city council
conducted a public hearing to consider the first reading of an ordinance amending the City
Charter by eliminating the need for a municipal primary election and changing the candidate
filing requirements. During the public hearing the council took public testimony from a number
of residents regarding the topic of RCV. At the conclusion of the public hearing, the council
directed staff to schedule a follow-up discussion at a study session.
Jeanne Massey, the Executive Director at Fair Vote Minnesota, presented information on RCV to
the council. She explained that the process allows voters to rank candidates in order of their
preferences. Winners are declared once they have reached a pre -determined threshold of votes,
typically 50% +1. She provided an overview of the history of RCV in both Minneapolis and St.
Paul and provided examples of voters' experiences. Ms. Massey pointed out that voter turnout
was over 80,000 in Minneapolis in 2013, the highest turnout in 12 years. Additionally, nearly
70% of voters polled in Minneapolis want to continue using RCV. Ms. Massey also noted voters
in St. Paul have found it manageable to use both the RCV and non-RCV methods on the same
ballot.
Councilmember Miller asked if there is data to support voters' support of RCV in Minneapolis.
Ms. Massey said yes, there is exit polling data.
Ms. Massey and the council discussed the tabulation of results and the ability for St. Louis Park
to export data from the DS200 ballot tabulator. Councilmember Sanger asked what a realistic
timeline would be for RCV results to be tabulated in St. Louis Park. Ms. Kennedy stated the time
is variable because it is dependent on many factors, including the number of candidates and the
number of rounds that are needed to determine a winner. She noted that both Minneapolis and St.
Paul have chosen to tabulate in different ways, but neither process is completely automated. She
gave an overview of the process Minneapolis used to tabulate results. Ms. Kennedy estimated it
could take staff anywhere from 3-5 days to tabulate results, depending on a number of factors.
Ms. Kennedy stated she does not want to over -promise to the council about how long the
tabulation process would take, but she also noted the decision related to the process that is used
would be up to the council, and staff's role is to implement the process.
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Councilmember Hallfin asked when races are within a couple of percentage points and a recount
is needed, is there data on actual recounts when ranked choice voting is used. Ms. Massey stated
she has not seen this data, and this would depend on what the council sets up as the process for
St. Louis Park. She added there are rules for recounts, ties and all conditions. She also pointed
out there are procedures set up to minimize human error, and there is more integrity in machines
today than in the past.
Councilmember Lindberg asked who the city's election officials are who would be administering
the process. Ms. Kennedy stated it is her job as St. Louis Park City Clerk. Councilmember
Lindberg added that transparency and trust are important in the RCV process and in data
verification. He asked how the city would audit this process. Ms. Kennedy stated that would be a
policy decision, noting that Minneapolis chose to hire a firm to perform an independent audit of
their results.
Councilmember Sanger asked if the city could adopt a provision to eliminate someone who
mathematically could not possibly win an election. Ms. Kennedy stated yes, the council could
choose to include that in the rules related to the administration of RCV. Councilmember Sanger
also asked if it would then be helpful to pay election judges to help facilitate the process. Ms.
Kennedy stated again that it is up to the council to determine the process and procedures, and
staff will do what is necessary to carry out those processes and procedures as effectively and
efficiently as possible.
Councilmember Miller asked if there might be an app for this process and also if staff knew what
expense there might be to the city to change to the RCV method. Ms. Kennedy stated she did not
have cost information but noted that voter education and outreach, legal fees, and staff time
would be the most costly pieces of the process.
Ms. Massey stated that Fair Vote Minnesota helps pay for voter education, which includes
videos, brochures and outreach. Ms. Brinkman from League of Women Voters stated they would
also partner with the city related to RCV education.
Councilmember Hallfin stated that obviously Fair Vote Minnesota is putting the full court press
on St. Louis Park for RCV. He asked if there are any other cities implementing it. Ms. Kennedy
stated Brooklyn Park considered it last year, but their council voted against implementing. The
City of Duluth considered it in 2015, but the question was defeated on the ballot. Hopkins has
discussed it and continues to monitor the idea. Ms. Massey stated that Crystal also had
considered it, as well as Bloomington.
Councilmember Mavity stated St. Louis Park has a really intelligent resident voter population,
and people understand the complexity. She added that staff may believe this will be a difficult
change, but it is worth the investment in the long term. She stated that this is about
enfranchisement. RCV will improve the city's elections by engaging more residents and keeping
the process more civil. Councilmember Mavity noted that staff will have a heavy lift, but they
have the capability to do it and do it well. She stated she is fully supportive and would like to
move forward with this conceptually.
Councilmember Sanger stated she agreed with everything Councilmember Mavity stated. She
noted that she would like to send this to the Charter Commission to request their support and to
have the ordinance completed and the process in place in time for the 2019 election cycle. She
added voters will handle this well, and many residents are in favor of it. She asked Ms. Kennedy
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and staff to give thought as to what it would take to simplify the administration of this process
and make it feasible.
Councilmember Brausen agreed with Councilmembers Sanger and Mavity and stated he is in
favor of RCV. He noted he would not have a problem spending $5,000-10,000 on voter outreach
and education efforts. He added that St. Louis Park has eliminated the primary, and now we
would be able to address a four-way race with RCV. He is in favor of it.
Councilmember Miller is also in favor, stating it is a more progressive method and encourages
better candidates and elections. While he thinks it might be a higher cost, RCV is coming, and it
would be best for the city to move in that direction.
Councilmember Hallfin stated he has not ever seen a nasty election in St. Louis Park and is not
worried about that as an issue. He added RCV seems fine but noted that the council has already
voted to eliminate the primary. He stated that they can decide as a council to change the charter
or to bring it to the voters.
Councilmember Lindberg stated he has more questions and asked what would be enhanced and
how it would benefit the community. He stated he appreciates the advocates who presented, but
added they have not yet provided the opportunity for everyone in the community to give their
opinion. He stated the council needs to provide this opportunity on the front end and guessed it
may take a lot more than $5,000-10,000 for a robust voter education and outreach campaign. He
stated it will be important to have more conversation about RCV in the community before
moving forward with adoption of an ordinance or implementation.
Mayor Spano stated he has spent a lot of time reading about RCV, adding he is cautious, but not
because it is not a good idea. He agreed with Councilmember Hallfin that St. Louis Park has civil
elections, and campaign money is less of an issue in the city. He stated that RCV could change
that dynamic but he has not seen enough of a problem in St. Louis Park for RCV to have an
impact. He would like to see voter turnout over a couple more election cycles in Minneapolis and
St. Paul and discuss how the change could impact elections from a race equity perspective before
making a decision. Mayor Spano stated he would like to see data from other cities in the United
States that have used RCV for 3-5 election cycles. He stated this is a huge change to the way
councilmembers are elected, so he wants to be certain that it is going to benefit all voters. Mayor
Spano added he has heard from some people in the community that would not be in favor of this
change.
Councilmember Miller stated he respects everyone's comments, adding he would like to move
forward with more research and discussion on RCV before proposing any changes to the Charter.
Councilmember Sanger referenced Mayor Spano's concerns about wanting more data and asked
Ms. Massey if she could provide voter turnout data from Minneapolis and St. Paul in races that
were contested and to see how RCV impacted the turnout. Ms. Massey stated she would provide
this data, adding that RCV encourages engagement, as well as voter turnout. She added it also
gives more choice to voters and increases rapid diversification of candidates.
Councilmember Mavity stated the council has five members who want to move forward in the
process and get more information. She added the more specific information the council can get,
the more informed they would be.
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Mr. Harmening suggested this not go directly to the Charter Commission at this time and that it
be discussed again by the council. He stated there is no perfect voting system, but elections are
fundamental to our community, and we need to think about how to engage people in this
conversation. He added that how RCV impacts race equity efforts is something that also needs to
be discussed. He stated it will take time but should be a priority to make a decision for the 2019
election, noting he will include RCV as an agenda item in the near future. Mr. Harmening stated
additional questions from council on the topic can be directed to staff.
The meeting adjourned at 7:28 p.m.
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