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City council study session
St. Louis Park, Minnesota
Feb. 28, 2022
The meeting convened at 6:40 p.m.
Councilmembers present: Mayor Jake Spano, Sue Budd, Lynette Dumalag, Larry Kraft, Nadia
Mohamed, and Margaret Rog
Councilmember absent: Tim Brausen
Staff present: City Manager (Ms. Keller), Deputy City Manager/Director of Operations and
Recreation (Ms. Walsh), Community Development Director (Ms. Barton), Engineering Director
(Ms. Heiser), City Clerk (Ms. Kennedy) Elections Specialist (Mr. Sund), Redevelopment
Administrator (Ms. Monson), Economic Development Manager (Mr. Hunt), Communications
Manager (Ms. Smith)
Guests:
1. Community and civic engagement system introduction
Mr. Sund presented the report and gave an overview of how the city has approached
community and civic engagement in the past and considerations going forward.
Councilmember Budd asked if neighborhood associations fit in with civic engagement. Mr. Sund
stated yes, neighborhood associations are a great resource the city utilizes to promote
engagement.
Councilmember Mohamed asked if the engagement strategy used depends on the project. Mr.
Sund stated yes, staff considers what the goals of outreach and engagement are for a particular
project or initiative and then designs the strategy based on how the public will be involved in
the process. Ms. Kennedy stated as a representative government the city’s role is often to
inform residents of council actions. However, engagement is a spectrum, and the city does have
opportunities to use strategies that move beyond informing and include consulting, involving,
or collaborating. As council discusses topics within this system, staff would like th em to
consider if current strategies are meeting the needs of the community and achieving the goals
and outcomes the council wants to see.
Councilmember Rog asked if technology will be interwoven into these conversations and
discussions. She asked how lack of technology and access will play into this. Mr. Sund stated
technology and accessibility are very important components when designing engagement
strategies because the city wants to provide opportunities that serve a broad audience.
Councilmember Rog stated things seem to go better when the city is clear about expectations
in communications to the public. She noted it would be good to find ways to help people
understand processes better and learn about the opportunities for participat ion and what does
or does not impact the decision-making process. She noted there are challenges with public
initiatives if a councilmember does not take something on as an issue. She added this might be
a place for public forums, outside of things council is initiating.
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Ms. Kennedy stated staff is supportive of looking into ways to make processes more accessible
and transparent and setting clear expectations with the public on their role and how they can
engage with the council.
Councilmember Dumalag stated she would be curious to see how consulting could be involved
moving forward and looking at being creative on how the city engages with residents.
Councilmember Kraft stated he likes the question about the goal of engagement and what does
success look like. He asked what staff envisions as an answer to this. Mr. Sund stated staff
needs to generally understand what council’s expectations or goals are for community
engagement so strategies can be designed to meet those objectives.
Councilmember Kraft stated that time will need to be built into the process. He asked staff
what they want from council for this topic tonight . Mr. Sund stated staff wanted to begin with
an initial overview to start from a place of common understanding in terms of how public
participation is discussed and defined. He noted the goal is that the council understands and is
supportive of the framework.
Councilmember Rog stated engaging the public on developments and pavement management
projects is important and something that needs to be discussed specific to certain areas. She
noted there is a need to adjust public engagement here and notification s about neighborhood
meetings. Mr. Sund stated this will be discussed when talking about process outcomes.
Mayor Spano stated by and large the city’s community engagement is excellent. He noted some
folks choose not to engage until something comes up, which is fine. He added it would be
helpful to know the strategies being used for different projects or initiatives. He stated he
appreciates a feedback loop of what worked and what did not. He noted discussing
infrastructure projects with residents that are going into neighborhoods seems to be where
there is an increase in engagement, and when people seem to feel things are being done to
them versus with them. He is very interested in this and exploring ways the council can better
support these efforts. He stated he appreciated going through this discussion and did not recall
seeing engagement presented like this in the past .
Councilmember Mohamed stated she is liking this conversation and noted this will be a shared
responsibility and shared ownership of decisions with residents, adding she likes where this is
going. She added it is important to always consider who is at the table when decisions are being
made.
Councilmember Rog noted work groups, or ad hoc groups, along with neighborhood groups,
help to engage the community and can be an important tool.
Councilmember Dumalag stated she would be interested in expanding existing boards and
commissions workplans to include them in the public engagement process.
Mayor Spano stated he will be curious if there is a way to try to provide opportunities and
resources for people who might not step forward or are hesitant to step forward into a difficult
space, how will their voice get heard, and their thoughts reflected. Ms. Kennedy stated
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alternative forms of engagement are appreciated when offered and staff continues to look for
ways to broaden the scope of opportunities to allow for meaningful communication.
Councilmember Budd added she wants to be sure the community is reflected within this
process. Mr. Sund stated yes, adding racial equity and inclusion will be reflected within the
process.
2. Business terms for purchase and redevelopment contract with Bigos – 9920 Wayzata,
LLC (Ward 4)
Mayor Spano referenced concerns when Meadowbrook became Era on Excelsior. He noted
there is no mechanism to ensure a smooth transition in cases such as this and asked what might
staff have in place to avoid issues in the future when in a similar situation.
Ms. Monson stated the housing department has adopted several processes that deal with
rental properties, turnover, and how it is handled. Ms. Barton added anytime a NOAH property
changes hands, the renters are protected for 90 days from eviction without cause or having
rents raised. She added the 7-day notice was added due to non-payment of rent or other
financial obligations. She noted the city did away with the crime-free requirements as well.
Mayor Spano asked how this property is being managed . Ms. Barton stated Bigos accepts more
housing choice vouchers than others do, and the city has a good working relationship with
Bigos. She added tenants don’t have any issue with Bigos Management and there have been no
problems. She stated there have been no concerns and they work through any issues with city
staff.
Councilmember Rog stated there are 233 units proposed and asked if there are 186 market rate
units. Ms. Barton stated yes, that’s correct. Councilmember Rog noted this leaves 47 units that
are affordable at 50% AMI and of those, 20 are 1-bedroom, 18 are 2-bedroom, and 2 are 3-
bedroom.
Mr. Neuman from Bigos stated there are 10 alcove units, 16 are 1-bedroom units, 3 are 1-
bedroom plus den units, 16 are 2-bedroom units, and 2 units are 3-bedroom units.
Councilmember Rog stated alcove and 1-bedroom plus den would be 1-2 people. She noted the
income range to qualify for those affordable units would be $36,000 for 1 person. Ms. Barton
stated it depends on the size of the family renting the unit.
Councilmember Rog asked if there are other mass transit options near the site. Ms. Monson
stated there are rapid bus routes with direct access to downtown and no others planned at this
time. She added the Hopkins Crossroad park-and-ride ramp is close, just to the east.
Councilmember Rog asked if the city ever looks at transit options for those at 50% AMI that
may not have access to vehicles. Ms. Monson stated Met Council reviews all the city’s transit
routes every few years to see who they serve and what the routes are. She noted they will
review SWLRT routes as well.
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Councilmember Rog asked how successful the city is in getting routes set up with Metro Transit .
Ms. Monson stated very successful and noted a recent update on the Louisiana Avenue route ,
where there is a lot of NOAH housing, and those routes provide transit that now serve longer
periods of time.
Councilmember Rog asked how council can work with staff on requests related to transit routes
from community members. Ms. Barton stated passing comments along to staff directly is the
best way. Ms. Monson added staff will continue to look at transit route options ongoing .
Councilmember Rog stated for the next 15 years, this projects housing will pay into the city
$50,000 per year which will be divided between the city, county, and school district. She asked
if staff feels this is adequate income to cover the mental health calls, public safety needs,
increased traffic, and road construction. Ms. Monson stated as part of the TIF requirements,
staff reaches out to public safety staff and asks if they need additional resources related to a
development. With this particular development, public safety staff have indicated they do not
need any additional resources to serve these households.
Councilmember Rog stated there are some amenities and asked if any are public amenities. Ms.
Monson stated they are all private.
Councilmember Rog asked what the triggers for the inclusionary housing policy are . Ms.
Monson stated a TIF request or a PUD rezoning requires developments adhere to the
inclusionary housing policy. She mentioned that the developer is proposing doubling the
requirements of the inclusionary housing policy.
Councilmember Rog asked if the developer was not receiving TIF, would they still be required to
provide 10% at 50% AMI. Ms. Monson stated yes because they received a PUD.
Councilmember Dumalag asked about the racial equity hiring requirements and how the
construction company will be implementing the city’s racial equity goals to this project . Ms.
Monson stated staff met with the construction company to go over racial equity goals and
noted they have experience providing the business enterprise process in leadership or
ownership but have less experience with workforce. She added they are interested in doing
this.
Councilmember Kraft asked the Bigos team what their overall view and strategy is around
affordable housing. Mr. Hedberg of Bigos stated they have 9,500 units in their portfolio and
of that 45% are naturally affordable, which is about 4 ,000 units that are lower than 60% AMI.
He added they have 5 affordable communities in their portfolio which are Section 8 and have
been under their management for over 30 years. He also noted within the last 4 years, they
have invested over $4 million into those existing units.
Councilmember Kraft asked if it is important to them. Mr. Hedberg stated yes, it is very
important to them.
Councilmember Kraft asked about Bigos commitment to sustainability of places they build and
own. Mr. Hedberg stated they have built a couple buildings in the last few years, adding electric
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car charging stations. He noted they are very excited about the city’s requirements for solar and
are looking at this more deeply, as well as looking to implement solar on another project as
well.
Mr. Reardon of ESG Architecture stated they will follow the energy design standards and the
city’s green building policy as well as the rating system and SB2030. He added some notable
features include 30% reduction in building water usage interior, 50% building reduction on the
exterior, low flow fixtures, green materials, and a 75% reduction in construction waste and
redirection, as well as the solar on the roof noted earlier.
Councilmember Kraft referenced wage theft and unsafe working conditions and asked what
they put in place to ensure this does not happen. Mr. Neumann from Bigos stated they have
discussed this with city staff and the construction company, noting this has not come up, but
they are more than willing to post the labor standards posters at the site, as well as certified
payroll, if required. He added they will increase visibility on the site on who to contact if there is
a suspicion of wage theft. He stated Bigos is notable as a top workplace and has top ratings,
adding safety is something they take seriously.
Mr. Hedberg stated the construction company is a national company, has an extremely good
rating for safety, and that is one of the main reasons Bigos selected them, noting period safet y
checks are also done on all sites.
Mr. Bigos stated he is excited to move forward on this project , noting it will be a great addition
to the community with 47 affordable units.
Councilmember Rog stated she will vote against this TIF request as the city is too generous with
TIF. She stated with this project, she is concerned with the low base rate and the impact on tax
revenue and levies going forward, adding there is not enough public benefit here with only 47
affordable units, and the majority being alcove and 1-bedroom units which is not necessarily
what is needed in St. Louis Park. She noted there will also be greenhouse gas emissions to deal
with, and she will not support this.
Mayor Spano stated this is a bitter pill to swallow, but he will su pport it because it will be of
benefit to the community. He has not had a conversation with Mr. Bigos as to what happened
in the transition of Meadowbrook to Era, even though that property needed help and
investment. But he noted the way folks were treated there was heartbreaking and difficult, and
he wanted to have an opportunity to discuss it .
Mr. Bigos stated he appreciated that. He explained they did talk about this internally and what
should have been done, but also noted the degree of crime in the building and unsafe issues.
He stated they tried to tackle too many things too quickly and that was their mistake .
Mayor Spano appreciated Mr. Bigos comments and stated he will support the project as will
Councilmember Brausen.
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Councilmember Mohamed stated she will not support this either and agreed with
Councilmember Rog’s comments. She stated possibly the city’s funding should go into
homeownership versus rental.
Councilmember Kraft stated he would like to think more about this, but does see some go od
things about it, especially since it has been a problematic place. He added it does meet city
policy goals and the payback period of 15 years is on the high end, which gives him pause, but
he will still consider this project.
Mayor Spano asked staff for an estimate on how long it has taken for TIF notes to be paid off.
Mr. Hunt stated typically TIF notes are paid off earlier and the city uses very conservative
estimates, which do not include inflation.
Councilmember Dumalag stated she would like more specifics from staff on the racial equity
information related to this project as well as more information on the construction company ,
who their subs are, and if there have been previous violations. She noted these items would
weigh in on her decision whether to support this project or not.
Councilmember Budd asked for clarification on the actual yearly TIF amount. Mr. Hunt stated
the annual TIF payment to the developer is approximately $616,000 . He stated after 14.5 years
it will provide $6.3 million on the net present value.
Communications/meeting check-in (verbal)
Ms. Keller stated the Park and Rec brochure went to press today, and will be mailed out March
12, while registrations start March 16.
Ms. Keller added the Wooddale Station Development Neighborhood meeting will be virtual and
is scheduled for March 3 at 6:30 p.m., with more details on the city website.
Councilmember Rog noted the Beltline meeting had a very low turnout and she hoped there
would be more opportunities for feedback. She noted the developer is asking for feedback from
the community and what residents are looking for in the area. She stated she will meet with
Ms. Barton about creating more engagement around this project .
The meeting adjourned at 8:34 p.m.
3. January monthly financial report
4. Fourth quarter investment report (Oct. – Dec. 2021)
5. Update on Sherman Associates’ proposed Beltline Boulevard Station Redevelopment
(Ward 2)
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Melissa Kennedy, city clerk Jake Spano, mayor
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