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Environment & sustainability commission
St. Louis Park, Minnesota
11/3/2021
1. Call to order
1a. Roll call
Members present: Chair Marisa Bayer, Shaina Ashare, Ryan Griffin, Holly Johnson, Sasha
Shahidi, Andrew Willette, Dave Wilsey, Eric Zweber, Tatiana Giraldo, Paige Kane
Members absent: JD Moore, Lillian Hertel
Staff present: Emily Ziring, Sustainability Manager
Guests: Councilmember Larry Kraft; Building and Energy Director Brian Hoffman
2. Approval of minutes – Oct. 6, 2021 – the minutes were approved unanimously with two
abstentions (Commissioners Kane and Giraldo).
3. Business
• Climate emergency declaration discussion with Councilmember Kraft
Councilmember Kraft explained details behind the declaration. He stated he sees this as a
beginning of this work and a way to have more power and more say with state government on
this issue. He stated so far at least 15 cities and some counties within MN are pursuing this
declaration at the same time.
Mr. Hoffman added that previously, the ESC shared concern that this would only be a symbolic
statement. But now that it is building and moving to a statewide coalition level, there could be
more interest from the public and media. He stated there is good reason for this timing.
Councilmember Kraft stated this is the right time to do this, adding the impacts are climate
change are being seen here now and if this can be used to get more residents involved, that will
also be helpful.
Commissioner Zweber asked how this relates to the climate action plan and whether there
would be legislative actions that come of this. Councilmember Kraft stated yes, along with more
funding from the state, the climate action plan serves as the guiding document. Ms. Ziring
added that as an example, the net zero building goal will only be reached and advanced if the
state is on board, so there are direct tie-ins to the climate action plan.
Commissioner Zweber asked if all the members of the coalition are at the same place and have
a climate action plan, and is St. Louis Park going to be at the same place with other cities.
Councilmember Kraft stated the cities are not all at the same place, but there are specific tools
to acknowledge this in the resolution template. He stated the power is in a large number of
cities coming together to declare there is a climate emergency.
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Mr. Hoffman stated the declaration will also help keep the community engaged as well.
Commissioner Ashare added she is in support of this and asked if there is a way to make a big
splash with media, such as all cities’ advocating for climate action at the legislature wearing the
same color t-shirt.
Commissioner Shahidi asked if there are requests at the state or federal level for specific
legislative asks, or actual benchmarks that cities wish to be checked off. Councilmember Kraft
stated there are not at this point. He added he has reached out to the house climate energy
finance policy committee chair to talk about leveraging this. He stated this is a beginning.
Commissioner Shahidi stated she is worried about the other cities having different ideas they
are lobbying for, and this then might lose its power or long-term benefit. Councilmember Kraft
stated the focus at first will be on St. Louis Park’s asks, and then having discussions about
legislative issues. He added good ideas are beginning and this can be the springboard and then
continue discussions even after the declaration is in place.
Commissioner Willette asked if principles or broader and general themes can be brought
forward. Commissioner Wilsey stated the action of the collection of cities will not change
climate significantly, and no one city can affect climate. He is concerned that the emergency
declaration will be a big burst and then fade off later, and wondered how this can be avoided.
Mr. Hoffman stated most of the legislation is unknown because the session has not yet begun,
but the principles will stay the same, and the desire is for the legislature to take measures to
reduce greenhouse gases. He stated the council does meet with the city’s representatives each
year and review city priorities, so the concepts and principles are in place.
Commissioner Shahidi stated it will be then very important to have the cities within the
coalition in agreement, and especially for the public to see this.
Chair Bayer added that cities agreeing on broader values will help as well.
Commissioner Giraldo added it will be important to get funding also.
Commissioner Wilsey asked if state funding is aspirational or will happen. Chair Kraft stated it is
aspirational at this point, adding this is not the same as declaring a state of emergency, where
relief funding is offered.
Commissioner Griffin stated he is supportive of the resolution and that up to this point it has
been symbolic, but with more cities involved it is good timing, especially with Glasgow and the
Build Back Better bill.
Commissioner Zweber asked if the coalition is set up so they could vote on supportive
legislation if it is brought forward. Councilmember Kraft stated that the caucus is not a
membership organization at this point. He stated they are working to do something meaningful
now and then build on that together with the other cities.
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Commissioner Zweber asked how PR can come from a coalition such as this. Councilmember
Kraft stated the group is working on a communication plan.
Commissioner Wilsey stated he is still concerned about the group continuing to work together,
even after the climate declaration is in place. He hopes the group will continue to collaborate
over time. Councilmember Kraft stated this can all be built into the overarching goals and
communication plan of the group.
Mr. Hoffman stated the benefit is that there are officials talking together and engaged together
about sustainability and the environment. This also helps city councils doing this to contact
their legislatures and ask them to do more.
Commissioner Griffin asked if there is a way for the city to double down on climate action
within this effort.
Ms. Ziring stated that actions are all either underway or planning to be rolled out in 2022 and
everything is tied back to the climate action plan. Staff will continue to work on getting
community buy in.
Commissioner Zweber asked if there will be an ask of the ESC. Councilmember Kraft stated he
will not make an ask, but that council will ask the ESC for their support of this.
Commissioner Zweber asked for this to be added to the Dec. 1 ESC agenda for further
discussion. Commissioners Zweber, Griffin, Johnson, and Wilsey will form a work group to
review the resolution and come back with a recommendation to ESC at the Dec. 1 meeting.
• Review draft Tariffed on Bill pilot program letter to Public Utilities Commission
The commissioners discussed the letter. Commissioner Shahidi asked about the housing stock
and rental rate data.
Commissioner Griffin asked about the details of the tariff being proposed. Commissioner
Zweber stated there needs to be a 20% energy savings to make the project feasible. He added
there is a process to audit and determine if savings has been realized. He added it is not
intended to pilot financing for fuel switching.
Commissioner Griffin stated that this is the wrong thing to do, and it is best to get away from
investing in natural gas.
Commissioner Ashare stated there is no other program that does fuel switching at this time,
and it is helping people to add insulation to their homes, as well as other improvements that
help with energy conservation, not just furnaces.
Commissioner Zweber asked if rather than reduces energy, a phrase about customers saving
money be used instead.
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Commissioner Griffin stated a high-efficiency furnace replacement would take many more years
to pay for, so fuel switching is really the best way to go.
Commissioner Zweber stated he likes the idea of 12 years to payback vs. 30 years and this
program could help until electrical heat options are widely available.
Commissioner Giraldo stated she investigated getting electric heating, noting that in very cold
temperatures it may not work effectively. Chair Bayer noted there are options but finding
contractors to install air source heat pumps is difficult. She added there is workforce
development and training being developed now for contractors.
A motion was made by Commissioner Wilsey, seconded by Commissioner Zweber to recommend
forwarding the document to the city council. The motion passed with two abstentions
(Commissioners Griffin and Bayer).
Commissioner Zweber stated the ESC had hoped this agreement would be with Xcel and
Minneapolis, and not Centerpoint, but this opens the door to more discussions and
collaboration later.
4. Staff updates
Ms. Ziring updated the commissioners on current projects:
• Climate Investment Fund was approved with funding for 2022. It will carry over from
year to year.
• Greenhouse Gas Emissions inventory – on Nov. 22, a five-year progress report will be
delivered to the city council at a study session.
• Building Operations Champion program – training those who work in buildings to take
care of buildings more efficiently. Also supports building a more diverse workforce and
training them.
• 2022 programs – tree growing initiative, climate champions for multi-family. The anti-
idling report went to council and council was very supportive of the options for a policy
for city staff and for an educational campaign. A work group will be needed for this at a
future date.
• Thanks to all for their help with the Twin Cities Film Festival, which was a success.
• Climate Champions update – 20 businesses have had assessments and 4 are applying for
cost-share program.
5. Workgroup and/or project updates
o EJ workgroup and “parking lot items” next steps
Multifamily information – incentives and program – Environmental Justice work group had a
meeting to discuss. Chair Bayer said there are many existing programs for multifamily buildings.
She said that the workgroup has concerns about whether adding a Climate Champions for
multifamily buildings program would get any participation if it is not very different from what
already exists. She asked the ESC if anyone has experience creating surveys that can be
conducted with multifamily property renters. Commissioner Ashare stated she has some survey
expertise.
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Ms. Ziring stated staff applied for two CERTs grants, including one for a community engagement
study to look at barriers to using NOAH housing programs. She added it is important to look at
the barriers before moving ahead with new program designs. This grant would be for electronic
surveys and focus groups. She stated she would like to table the EJ work group item until
information comes back on the grants.
Commissioner Willette stated when doing the survey, there should be an idea set for survey
takers to react to.
This will be further discussed at the January 2022 ESC meeting.
6. Environmental justice open discussion
Commissioner Shahidi stated there is design contest, with winners announced in December.
7. Upcoming/proposed events
• ESC retreat – Dec. 5, 2021 from 12-4 p.m. at Westwood Hills Nature Center
• ESC elections – Jan. 2022 – Chair and Vice Chair to be elected
8. Adjournment – 8:10 p.m.
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Emily Ziring, liaison Marisa Bayer, chair member