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ST. LOUIS PARK TELECOMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION
MEETING OF AUGUST 4, 2005
ST. LOUIS PARK COUNCIL CHAMBERS
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rick Dworsky, Dale Hartman, Ken Huiras, Bob Jacobson and Rolf Peterson
MEMBERS ABSENT: Bruce Browning and Mary Jean Overend
STAFF PRESENT: Reg Dunlap, Civic TV Coordinator; John McHugh, Community
TV Coordinator
OTHERS PRESENT: Mark Boehler, Time Warner Cable, Manager, Customer Operations;
Lance Leupold, Time Warner Cable; Kathi Donnelly-Cohen, Comcast
1. Call to Order
Chair Dworsky called the meeting to order at 7:00 PM.
2. Roll Call
Present at roll call were Commissioners Dworsky, Hartman, Huiras, Jacobson and Peterson.
3. Approval of Minutes for May 5, 2005
It was moved by Commissioner Huiras, seconded by Commissioner Jacobson, to approve
the minutes of May 5, 2005 as presented.
The motion passed 4-0-1, with Commissioner Peterson abstaining.
4. Adoption of Agenda
Commissioner Huiras requested to add a wireless update to the agenda. Mr. McHugh
indicated there was no new information, but would be more at the end of the month.
It was moved by Commissioner Huiras, seconded by Commissioner Peterson, to approve
the agenda as presented.
The motion passed 5-0.
5. Public Comment - None
6. New Business
A. Transfer of Cable System from Time Warner to Comcast
Mr. Dunlap reported City Council will hold a public hearing on August 15th pertaining to
the cable system transfer, and Time Warner and Comcast representatives will be present.
He expects a report about September 1 from Brian Grogan of Moss and Barnett, the
attorney that has been contracted to study Comcast’s FCC Form 394. Mr. Grogan is
investigating Comcast’s legal, technical and financial abilities to operate the cable
system, and sent a letter requesting information from Comcast on July 14, 2005. Mr.
Dunlap shared several pertinent Comcast’s responses, received in a letter from Sheila
Willard on August 1, 2005. Mr. Grogan asked, “Is Comcast proposing or will Comcast
undertake any technical changes in the system?” and “Does Comcast have plans to
consolidate the headend facilities presently operated by Time Warner into Comcast’s
headend facilities?” Mr. Dunlap said Comcast is based in St. Paul and has a very
sophisticated headend. The response was, “There are no current plans to make any
technical changes in the system, and no such changes are required as a direct result of the
Transaction. However, Comcast reserves the right to consider and make such changes as
customer and company needs dictate.” Throughout the letter, the prudent response was
that they reserve the right to have the transaction close and then make any adjustments
needed over time. There is not a lot of specific detail they can share at this point. Mr.
Grogan also asked, “Will Comcast make any changes to the programming line-up?” The
response, “There are no current plans to make any changes to the programming line-up.”
Mr. Dunlap said that at some future point line-ups would probably be realigned when it
became feasible.
Commissioner Huiras asked if there was an analysis of the differences in programming
between Comcast’s offerings and Time Warner’s? Mr. Dunlap replied no.
Commissioner Huiras asked about cost? Mr. Dunlap replied they hadn’t done that yet
either. He could prepare a report for the Commission comparing cost and line-up.
Mr. Dunlap referenced question nine, pertaining to the Adelphia Bankruptcy. The reason for
this transfer was because Adelphia was being purchased by Time Warner. Adelphia is a big
company with many systems in the Pennsylvania area and in Los Angeles, among other
places. Also, Comcast has owned 25% of Time Warner for a long time and has been
looking for a way to divest that ownership, which will be resolved in the overall transaction.
Since Comcast is larger than Time Warner in the Minnesota district, all of Time Warner’s
Minnesota properties, including St. Louis Park, would be transferred to Comcast. Comcast
will then operate the vast majority of the systems in the Minneapolis/St. Paul area.
Point nine in Mr. Grogan’s letter said, “That the City is aware that Time Warner and
Comcast and/or its affiliates are jointly pursuing acquisition of over five million customers
presently served by Adelphia Communications…subject to approval by the bankruptcy court.
Please describe whether the transaction involving acquisition of the Adelphia subscribers will
in any way impact the proposed transfer of the cable systems serving the City.” The
Comcast response said, “The Redemption Agreement under which the City’s franchise is
being transferred to Comcast does contemplate that Comcast and Time Warner might not go
forward with the Redemption Agreement if the Adelphia transaction does not take place.
The “Conditions Precedent” provisions in Sections 8.1 and 8.2 of the Agreement allow both
companies to waive that requirement and go forward with the Redemption if they so choose.”
He would like to hear if there was anything further that the representatives could tell them.
Kathi Donnelly-Cohen, Comcast’s Director of Government Relations, said that while the
Federal government is reviewing the overall transaction it is under Hart/Scott/Rodino
anti-trust review, which doesn’t allow Comcast to talk about how they would go forward
and operate. So they can’t talk about headend consolidations of equipment or channel
line-ups until the review was done.
Mr. Dunlap asked if the Adelphia transaction was moving along smoothly? Ms.
Donnelly-Cohen replied rather than wait for each of the individual steps to be approved
before they went to the next one, they were trying to do everything simultaneously. The
bankruptcy court would probably give its decision and approval by the end of the year.
Commissioner Jacobson asked if there was a final date for the City to approve the
transfer? Mr. Dunlap replied yes, by Federal law, the City has to act by October 15th or
the transfer is deemed approved.
B. Review Time Warner Annual Filings
Chair Dworsky noticed in the annual filings, it was still under the Nortel Cable
Associates franchise. Would that stay the same when Comcast absorbs it or would it be
something different? Mr. Dunlap replied he was unsure if as part of this transfer the
name of “Nortel Cable Associates doing business as” would go away or not.
Mr. Dunlap indicated a shorter version of the financial statement was included with the
packets. He noted that the City Finance Director reviewed the information last year and
recommended updating it over the years as a good tool for watching a couple of key areas
financially. He was not sure they would have the same break out in the future. In 2002,
“Expenses: selling, general administration” was $4.5 million and in 2003, it doubled to
over $9.5 million. Last year it was a similar number, $9.7 million. He would follow up
and find out if there was an explanation why that item increased so much after being a
relatively steady number of about $4 million in 1998 and eventually rising to $4.5 million
in 2002.
Commissioner Jacobson stated the report was well done.
C. Time Warner Customer service update
Chair Dworsky stated there were eleven complaints, two having to do with delay of the
shuttle launch, which was beyond their control, and a couple dealing with Roadrunner. It
was a pretty good month.
Mr. Dunlap indicated he wanted to take this opportunity for the Commission to ask
questions of Mr. Boehler regarding complaints and customer service.
Commissioner Peterson asked if they relocated to the building at Crosstown and Hwy
169? Mark Boehler replied they had a new facility with administration, customer
operations, the technical group and design staff.
Chair Dworsky stated looking at the past year, a lot of complaints had to do with cable
being exposed in front of people’s homes and yards. Had anything been done to
coordinate that better? Mr. Boehler replied they have made improvements in the
processes they use. If cable is installed during winter months, they lay the cable on the
ground until spring, when they can schedule to have the cable buried. They have
improved how they do that and who they get as a contractors to do it. They have a
“pending pool” to gauge how they are doing.
Chair Dworsky asked at what point after the winter should the involved citizen be
involved and call? Mr. Boehler replied anything laid on the ground is tagged on the work
order and a pending work order is initiated in their system. They are aware it is there and
they need it buried. They cannot determine when the frost will be gone and when they
can bury cable without hurting people’s lawns, so it was hard to say an exact date. If they
are getting ready to mow their lawn and the cable is still there, they should call.
Commissioner Jacobson commented be was glad they were looking at that process and
improving it.
Mr. Boehler stated they spend money on their customer operations and the building was a
nice move for them and they feel it would help provide better service. They spend a lot
of money on infrastructure and were introducing a couple new things. ECHO (Every
Customer Has an Opinion), when a customer calls in, will ask if they wanted to take a
survey to rate the service being provided by a customer service representative. The
system will call a customer back after their call and ask a number of questions. They can
go back and target a representative and show them the customer perception of how a call
went. They were also spending a lot of time and money on their web site. Customers can
view and pay their bills.
Mr. McHugh indicated if someone goes to their web site, they can only get generic
information about pricing for services. Is that scheduled to change so someone can find
out how much it costs to subscribe to different services? Mr. Boehler replied yes, he
didn’t have a date it was scheduled to be available.
Commissioner Huiras asked if all of their facilities had moved to Eden Prairie from north
Minneapolis? Mr. Boehler responded no, they traded out some things. It made sense to
have some of the technicians housed out of Minneapolis. All of the admin and customer
service functions were in Minnetonka.
D. Update on Time Warner Cable franchise fee review
Mr. Dunlap indicated there was nothing more to add, except that they expected to have
the report by September 1st.
E. Publicity brainstorming for cable access channels
Mr. Dunlap stated this was on the work plan. They have a studio available and
Commissioners expressed an interest to better publicize it. Commissioners can tell staff
what they should be promoting. Call or email with suggestions.
Commissioner Huiras asked if a sub committee was put together at the last meeting? Mr.
Dunlap replied yes, there was a sub committee to work on the idea of using the high
school studio. He believed Commissioners Browning, Peterson and Jacobson were on it.
Chair Dworsky asked if there was a report from the sub committee? Commissioner
Jacobson responded they hadn’t met yet.
Mr. McHugh indicated staff has a meeting with the school district August 10th to talk
about getting concept approval from the school board for a community use for their
studio. It would have certain limitations, so he was exploring possible simultaneous
alternatives to the school studio that would be available when school is in session or on
Saturday’s when school buildings are closed.
Chair Dworsky asked when they view channels 17 and 15, can they use a tag line requesting
comments on the channel? That might give them the public comment they need to improve
the channels. Mr. Dunlap responded one of the messages that is part of the cycle, is for
questions, comments or complaints. His name and contact information is provided. His
name and contact information is also listed for unresolved complaints on bills.
7. Old Business
A. Franchise Renewal Update
Mr. McHugh stated they met with Time Warner the previous day and had given them a
City response to the franchise mark-up that they had been given. The franchise mark-up
Time Warner gave the City included deletion of many substantive things without
proposing alternatives. The City inserted the alternatives, sometimes reflecting what had
been agreed to verbally in their previous meetings with Time Warner. They were dealing
with a new Time Warner legal counsel who wasn’t present at the meetings and may not
have reviewed everything that transpired over the last two years with Time Warner staff.
Some of it was news to him and some he had expected them to come up with a proposal.
Time Warner is going to respond to the version of the franchise that the city gave them.
They hoped to have a response by Wednesday and they would see how close they were to
what the City proposed. There is a public hearing concerning the franchise renewal on
Monday, August 15th. They were unable to have a meeting prior to the public hearing to
discuss changes.
Commissioner Huiras asked if any more of the bullet points had been resolved? Mr.
McHugh replied there had been clearly worded alternatives and proposals that they
expect Time Warner to respond to. There had been very few things they had rejected out
of hand. Support for local origination at their last meeting was not rejected out of hand.
The proposed language for equipping the local channels wasn’t rejected. They were
going to come up with a counter proposal. They would characterize the meetings as quite
productive and they would know how productive when they received a written response.
Commissioner Huiras asked if there would be another extension? Mr. McHugh replied
there were a couple of scenarios, one was an extension to October 15th or possibly the end
of the year. They would go with whatever legal counsel suggested. At this point, no
decision had been made for an extension, a stand still agreement or no action on an
extension. The current franchise, with the six-month extension, expires at the end of this
month.
Commissioner Huiras asked if Comcast required a franchise agreement in place when a
transfer takes place? Ms. Donnelly-Cohen replied no. There are a number of franchises
that are either under renewal, had been extended or in some cases they had already
expired. Legally, Time Warner was serving them under the terms and conditions of the
existing franchise. What they have said in their documents is that they would abide by
the terms and conditions in the franchise even if it expired.
Commissioner Huiras asked if Time Warner needed to go to Comcast if there was a
major change in the franchise? Ms. Donnelly-Cohen responded her understanding was if
were are major issues, they would like to be part of the discussion.
Commissioner Huiras assumed nothing at this point had been that major? Ms. Donnelly-
Cohen replied correct.
Commissioner Jacobson asked if there was anything in the franchise defining local
origination, what it is, and if both parties, the City and the Cable company understand
what the differences are if there are any? He was unsure they were all on the same page.
The document he was going through (the annual report) had quite a few incidents of LO
used and there was not a clear definition. The report also included an inventory of what
was at the studio. He had been at the studio recently and couldn’t find many of items on
the list. The list did not seem to be accurate.
Mr. Leupold responded his understanding was that the list of the St. Louis park inventory
was accurate for the studio and 95-99% accurate for the van. They had the consultant
working with the city on a needs assessment look at both facilities and it was his
understanding all of the items were found in the studio. There were also some additions
to the van, which they would report to the City. There should be more items than were
reported on the inventory.
Commissioner Jacobson asked there be a follow through to assure the list was accurate.
Mr. McHugh said he had an appointment to use the studio this month and would review
the list. Regarding the description of LO, in the current franchise it is described as
community programming that is done by the company. The City proposes to continue to
do that type of programming since Time Warner wanted it to be discretional going
forward in the new franchise. Federal law describes it as programming originated by the
company. State law describes it as programming by any number of entities, including
cites and cable companies.
Commissioner Jacobson indicated the section about scheduling and operations and
supervision brought this up. It said their had to be an LO certified person on duty and he
was confused about that and how they were certified.
Mr. McHugh replied the local origination supervisor, Leslie Ferrell, is there to help with
use of the facility. When they have a studio reservation she is there before hand to turn
on equipment and makes sure the signals for production are going where they need to go.
If something is not working, she tries to remedy it. As far as using the studio or the van,
Time Warner has to be able to confirm that those people have received adequate training.
Chair Dworsky asked when one refers to LO, is that a pool of people or a particular
individual? Mr. McHugh replied it meant Time Warner’s Local Origination Department,
with an office in Fridley and several employees.
B. Emergency Alert System Update
Mr. Dunlap reported he tested the analog system and the test went well. Last month they
tested the digital override system and it worked satisfactorily.
Commissioner Huiras asked if the time delay had been taken care of? The time Mr.
Dunlap put it in, to the time it actually came out on a digital channel was quite extensive.
Mr. Dunlap responded they hadn’t done another test and would monitor the delay on the
next test.
Commissioner Huiras asked if there was a regular test scheduled the first Wednesday of
the month? Mr. Dunlap replied he had been waiting to get everything working smoothly
before having the regular testing done by the dispatch staff.
Commissioner Huiras indicated the test was visible on the digital channels. The only
problem was that it was delayed 17-18 minutes from the time entered to when it came
over on the channel, which needs to be addressed.
Chair Dworsky asked if there is a delay on the analog side? Mr. Dunlap replied that it’s
brief, a couple of seconds after it is activated.
Mr. Leupold stated that was the first he heard of a delay. There are some considerable
obstacles they were working around to provide digital capability. He would report this
issue back to the head end staff to see if they can work around that.
Chair Dworsky asked for a report back to the Commission prior to October 6th.
8. Reports
A. Complaints – Complaints covered in Time Warner Customer service update.
9. Communication from the Chair
Mr. Leupold stated they appreciate the customers and he thanked them. They look
forward to serving the customers and continuing to provide excellent service and
comparable service to what they have with Comcast in every respect.
Commissioner Jacobson reported that there was a special meeting regarding WiFi and
health issues. He did searched for “WiFi and health” on Google and had 2,490,000 pages
of information. It was a big subject. He surveyed some of the first listings and there was
one at the top talking about an Illinois school district being sued over the WiFi health
potential and they found nothing dangerous after the case was settled. The health issues
are evidently not as big of a deal as people think. The strength of the signal is not
particularly strong in this case. This is something that would be an ongoing issue. He
intended to research this further.
10. Communications from City Staff
Mr. Dunlap indicated that there is a City Council meeting on August 15th at 7:30, where
there will be a public hearing to transfer the franchise from Time Warner to Comcast and
also for the renewal of the Time Warner franchise. There will be a brief staff report and
then it will be open to the public. The system will basically operate as it has been. In St.
Paul Comcast offers digital phone, high definition, DVR, high speed internet, all of the
same services that are comparable to Time Warner.
Commissioner Huiras asked if someone uses Roadrunner now, will they have to switch to
a new email address? Ms. Donnelly-Cohen replied she could not answer it now. Time
Warner customers will become Comcast customers, and there will be a lot of Comcast
customers in Los Angeles who will become Time Warner customers. When AT&T
Broadband changed, they had to change the domain names. This was different and would
need to be worked out, but they could not say exactly what they would do.
11. Adjournment
Commissioner Huiras made a motion, Commission Jacobson seconded to adjourn at
7:50. The motion passed 5-0.
Respectfully submitted by:
Amy L. Stegora-Peterson
Recording Secretary