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ST. LOUIS PARK TELECOMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION
MEETING OF JULY 14, 2011
ST. LOUIS PARK COUNCIL CHAMBERS
MEMBERS PRESENT: Dale Hartman, Toby Keeler, Mike Mulligan, Rolf Peterson
MEMBERS ABSENT: Bruce Browning, Rick Dworsky, Jenna Sheldon (youth member)
and Bill Theobald
STAFF PRESENT: Reg Dunlap, Civic TV Coordinator; John McHugh, Community
TV Coordinator
OTHERS PRESENT: None
1. Call to Order
Chair Mulligan called the meeting to order at 7:00 PM.
2. Roll Call
Present at roll call were Commissioners Hartman, Keeler, Mulligan and Peterson.
3. Approval of Minutes for May 19, 2011
It was moved by Commissioner Keeler, seconded by Commissioner Hartman, to approve
the minutes of May 19, 2011, without changes.
The motion passed 4-0.
4. Adoption of Agenda
It was moved by Commissioner Peterson, seconded by Commissioner Keeler, to approve
the agenda.
The motion passed 4-0.
5. Public Comment - None
6. New Business
A. Fiber optic long range planning ordinance update
Mr. McHugh said he sent an Email summarizing what had taken place. The City
received four responses to the request for qualifications and the subcommittee reviewed
those and chose two that responded to the questions well. The finalists are Columbia
Telecommunications and Tellus Ventures. They will interview the finalists later this
month, will study their bonafides, and talk with other governments they’ve worked for
and check references. The committee is putting together a list of questions to ask the
consultants, and would like input from other Commissioners. For example, Mr.
McHugh recently found reference to micro-trenching, which was the first he had heard of
it, which is installing fiber less than a foot below surface. It’s an interesting concept that
is worth further study.
Commissioner Keeler said he’d also give an overview on the Future of cable TV item,
and that some pieces dove-tail with the fiber optic study, including the possibility to
generate additional revenue from the fiber optic side.
Commissioner Hartman said he saw an email survey about putting a value on each cable
station, and wondered who was behind it. The intent seemed to be to find out about
paying to view or connect. Commissioner Keeler asked Commissioner Hartman to
forward the link to the rest of the Commission.
Chair Mulligan asked Mr. McHugh to resend the industry articles, and asked of the four
consultants they looked at, did they feel one would be in a good position to carry out the
study? Mr. McHugh said he felt the references would give good insight, and the quality of
the first responses shows how seriously they’ll address the topic. He said rather than a
scientific survey, it would be good to have all neighborhoods represented in the study and
then find out where the holes are.
B. Future of Cable TV subcommittee update
Commissioner Keeler said they’ve had two meetings and were looking at the history of
cable TV in St. Louis Park and the current state, and want to summarize that to set the
stage for City Council. They are also looking at; an analysis of the revenue generated
through the franchise, so Commissioner Keeler will put together graphs and spreadsheets
of the monthly revenues through 1998; looking at Legislative issues in terms of state-
wide franchising around the country; how broadband relates to cable TV, because they
are becoming merged to a great degree; what the CAP Act looks like at the Federal level;
and, future community access programming options for the franchise, which is up in
2021 and planning for a new agreement in 2018. It looks like the landscape is changing
rapidly, for example, Hulu has just announced reaching one million subscribers soon and
is an alternative to watching traditional cable TV. The subcommittee is looking at other
options for the City to generate revenue through broadband. Other municipalities,
perhaps in Illinois, are charging monthly fees for a router for broadband service, although
this is being challenged by cable providers. There will be another meeting in August and
September, and hope to present at the City Council Study Session on November 14th.
Mr. Dunlap noted the sub committee should have an outline or draft report to the
Commission at the October meeting to show the direction they are going.
Chair Mulligan said it sounded like there were many options and other mediums to get
the content and it would be interesting to see where it goes. The next big thing in TV
technology will be content access, like gaming counsels with apps or widgets to sign up
for services like Netflix, Hulu or music like is done with a smart phone.
Mr. McHugh wondered what the tipping point would be before the brand name services
likes Arts and Entertainment would say yes to a smaller list of subscribers at a lower rate.
The programmers, if they were not owned by the satellite or cable companies, would
need to make a decision if they would sell to individuals. Commissioner Keeler said we
need to look at everything before the next franchise talks begin in 2018.
Chair Mulligan asked if there was potential in the long-range plan to leverage our fiber to
provide their broadband service to St. Louis Park? Mr. Dunlap replied the consultants
would be asked about it.
7. Unfinished Business
A. City Attorney’s opinion regarding Comcast audit notice
Mr. Dunlap indicated the Commission passed a motion at the last meeting to get an opinion
from the City Attorney about Comcast and audit notice. Commissioner Dworsky told Mr.
Dunlap that he’s comfortable deferring the audit to 2014. Mr. Dunlap said he didn’t want
to postpone an audit review that long, and suggested revisiting this next year.
Chair Mulligan said there is an advantage to keeping companies honest, but it was also
prudent to recognize the revenue loss in the past audit.
Commissioner Peterson said it could be deferred to May next year and they would miss
one year at the most, but not three or four years.
Commissioner Keeler agreed they should bring it up next May and determine if they
wanted to audit the previous three years. Chair Mulligan agreed.
Commissioner Keeler made a motion, Commission Peterson seconded to defer the audit
to May 2012.
Commissioner Peterson suggested that if other communities audits find anything, that
could be a trigger for us to consider doing another audit.
Mr. Dunlap stated the last audit was done in conjunction with other cities, and that
MACTA contacts also track and share that type of information. Comcast does vary
methods somewhat from region to region, based on the specifics of the franchises.
The motion passed 4-0.
B. Grand Stadium Agreement for High School Sports Sectionals coverage
Mr. Dunlap noted that the motion at the last meeting was to table until the next meeting.
Staff requested a motion me made that would not “bind” the City or prevent staff from
signing the contract if that had to be done with short notice to cover a specific event.
Chair Mulligan was in favor of the route suggested by staff.
Commissioner Keeler made a motion, Commissioner Peterson seconded to table the
decision on the agreement to the first meeting of 2012 with the caveat that the City could
react to any situation that necessitates some means to cover games if necessary. The
motion passed 4-0.
8. Reports
A. Complaints
Chair Mulligan said he was glad the first complaint was resolved and felt the list was
shorter than usual.
Mr. Dunlap noted that complaint was about the new DVR software changes, and the
learning curve for new software is uncomfortable, but after mastering the changes, we
wonder how we could have done it any other way.
Mr. McHugh said that if Comcast wasn’t doing a good job, our phone would never stop
ringing. Commissioner Peterson said customers are getting used to the DTA’s and that’s
a good thing.
9. Communication from the Chair - None
10. Communications from City Staff
Mr. McHugh discussed a programming report about online playbacks of Park TV
programs. He brought up the recent residential survey of residents, and only 50% or fewer
have broadband, and 12% have dial up. So that’s a significant number that can’t watch
online programming. That will change over time.
Chair Mulligan asked if staff was happy with the results. Mr. McHugh said the City can do
more to publicize our cable channels and online videos, and that he hoped next year the
numbers would be even better.
Mr. Dunlap said as an example of growth, July 2010 had 505 program viewers, and July
this year was over 1,300 by the middle of the month. That growth is driven by the demand
to see the new Aquatic Park obstacle course video, and a number of controversial issues in
the community in the last year have driven people to watch Park TV coverage.
Commissioner Peterson said it supports that he’s noticed more video links on Facebook,
and that Patch is also helping a lot.
Commissioner Keeler asked if the survey showed that Park TV and web site statistics are
higher. Mr. Dunlap said that the survey results are all great and will forward the link to
the Commission.
11. Adjournment
Commissioner Keeler made a motion, Commission Peterson seconded to adjourn at 7:55.
The motion passed.
Respectfully submitted by:
Amy L. Stegora-Peterson
Recording Secretary