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ST. LOUIS PARK TELECOMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION
MEETING OF MAY 5, 2005
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING ROOM C350
MEMBERS PRESENT: Bruce Browning, Rick Dworsky, Dale Hartman, Ken Huiras, Bob
Jacobson, Mary Jean Overend
MEMBERS ABSENT: Rolf Peterson
STAFF PRESENT: Reg Dunlap, Civic TV Coordinator; John McHugh, Community
TV Coordinator
OTHERS PRESENT: Cindy Reichert, City Clerk; Tom Marble, School District #283
Director of Information Services
1. Call to Order
Vice Chair Overend called the meeting to order at 7:00 PM.
2. Roll Call
Present at roll call were Commissioners Browning, Hartman, Huiras, Jacobson and Overend
3. Approval of Minutes for February 3, 2005
It was moved by Commissioner Huiras, seconded by Commissioner Hartman, to approve
the minutes of February 3, 2005, without changes. The motion passed 5-0.
4. Adoption of Agenda
It was moved by Commissioner Jacobson, seconded by Commissioner Huiras, to approve
the agenda. The motion passed 5-0.
5. Public Comment - None
6. New Business
A. By Laws Amendments
Ms. Reichert discussed the changes to the Commission By Laws, as in her report.
Commissioner Huiras asked if the section regarding term of office was true of all
commissions? Ms. Reichert replied it was what the Telecommunication Commission had
set up. Individual committees could determine their own rules.
Commissioner Huiras asked if youth members could vote and if that were different by
Commission? Ms. Reichert replied the Council made a change in the ordinance which
pertains to Commissions to allow youth members to vote with the exception of committees
where it involved personal property.
Commissioner Huiras asked about section 4.4, special meetings, where it indicated that
notice be posted on the City bulletin board? Ms. Reichert responded that the Chair or
three other Commissioners could call special meetings and that this was statutory
language.
Commissioner Huiras asked under the Rules and Procedures section, if anything said a
person could be on multiple commissions? Ms. Reichert replied no. The Council had
discussed prohibiting people from serving on more than one commission, but it hadn’t
been incorporated yet.
It was moved by Commissioner Jacobson, seconded by Commissioner Huiras, to accept
the By Laws as presented. The motion passed 5-0.
B. City Clerk presentation on records retention & open meeting law
Ms. Reichert reported on record retention policies and open meeting laws.
Commissioner Huiras asked if they received something from staff on their home computers,
they were required to retain that record? Ms. Reichert replied yes, however staff would
retain correspondence for three years. If Commissioners communicate with each other or
with members of the public, it would be their responsibility to maintain the record.
Ms. Reichert completed the report.
Commissioner Jacobson asked about the City’s policy on social security numbers? Ms.
Reichert replied that they were private.
Commissioner Jacobson asked why they were requested on some City documents?
Ms. Reichert replied they could collect the information, but were not allowed to
disseminate the information.
Commissioner Jacobson requested clarification regarding the need for social security
numbers. Ms. Reichert replied she would research that information and respond back.
C. School District funding for 2005 & quarterly report
Tom Marble, Director of Information Services for the School District, reported on the
funding and quarterly report.
Mr. McHugh asked about if the editing system was a replacement unit or if they were moving
an existing one to the junior high? Mr. Marble replied they would set one up in the television
studio to be accessible for after hours use. There would be the addition of one editing system.
Vice Chair Overend asked about if student interest had increased? Mr. Marble responded
it had changed and was coming from more traditional classes (social studies, etc.). The
Media productions class was eliminated a couple of years ago.
Vice Chair Overend asked if students younger than junior high age were using the
equipment? Mr. Marble replied yes, some elementary students were also using the
equipment because it’s more accessible and the kids were more comfortable with it.
Commissioner Jacobson asked if staff had training on the equipment? Mr. Marble replied
a leadership group was at a training session focused on how to get staff to use the
equipment. They switched to a new student information system and piloting on-line
attendance and working with an on-line grading system. It would be “live” next fall.
Commissioner Jacobson asked if there were already prepared presentations staff could
look at? Mr. Marble replied they have a service called Atomic Learning, an on-line video
streaming on how to use specific pieces of software.
Commissioner Jacobson asked if there was a need to prepare something for the
equipment that the school district used? Mr. Marble replied one of the reasons they went
with Atomic Learning was because it covered much of the things that were common to
every school and every piece of equipment in the district. Training at the senior high
facility would be best done in-person. It was too complex to put into a video.
Commissioner Browning asked if schools would eventually be networked with a central
storage facility? Mr. Marble replied that the vision was to do that with Hopkins. They
presently had a video cooperative where they stored DVD’s and videotapes. The Atomic
Learning service allowed them an on-site option with their own servers and the
downloaded media to their server, which allowed better performance. They would also
have the ability to add their own training videos.
Commissioner Browning asked if there would be a laptop initiative? Mr. Marble replied
yes, it would require long term planning. The first step would be changing the way that
teachers taught.
Commissioner Browning asked if they were equipped with WiFi? Mr. Marble replied
they had wireless “hot spots” in every school, but were not completely wireless.
Teachers at many schools have wireless laptops. Every media center is a wireless hot
spot. They were looking at the possibility of participating in the City’s wireless project.
Commissioner Dworsky arrived.
It was moved by Commissioner Browning, seconded by Commissioner Jacobson, to
continue the $35,000 grant for the School District. The motion passed 6-0.
Commissioner Browning felt the money was being spent wisely and he liked the
direction they were going with the digital equipment.
D. Review School District using interns for extra experience & to produce
programming
Mr. Marble stated that setting up an intern program was difficult because of supervision
issues. They were looking at high school students assisting and being resources to help
staff and students with general computer problems.
E. Using High School Studio for Community TV productions
Mr. Marble indicated that the biggest hurdle was getting the procedural pieces into place
regarding staffing. Space can be reserved through the community education program.
The studio was complicated and required advanced training.
Mr. McHugh added that they were looking forward to training on the new equipment.
Chair Dworsky asked if they scheduled training for the community? Mr. Marble replied
that could be a possibility.
Mr. McHugh noted it would probably be a community education class. They would
schedule according to need.
Chair Dworsky suggested that be developed further.
Mr. Marble asked if it had been the experience that one or two people used the facility and
become “experts?” Mr. McHugh replied no. One of the proposals was to assure access to the
facility, that there be a projected number of hours with compensation that matched the hours
for using the studio. That would cover personnel expenses that the district would incur.
Commissioner Jacobson asked how much public access time was available? Mr. Marble
responded it would likely be available between 4 PM-10 PM. Days would be determined
based on the amount of demand.
F. Time Warner TV studio use and consider forming a committee for publicizing
availability to citizens
It was moved by Commissioner Huiras, seconded by Commissioner Browning, to table
discussion on this item to a future meeting.
Commissioner Jacobson suggested forming the committee and getting a committee report
before it was put on the agenda.
The following Commissioners expressed interest in being members of the committee:
Overend, Jacobson, Browning and Mr. McHugh as staff representative.
Commissioner Dworsky called the question.
The motion passed 6-0.
7. Old Business
A. Renewal update
Mr. McHugh indicated that the next meeting with Time Warner would be on May 18th to
discuss proposed changes in the franchise ordinance. There had been no movement on the
significant issues. A transfer to Comcast would be happening at the same time as the renewal.
Commissioner Browning asked how would the fact that Comcast may own the St. Louis
Park system play into this? Mr. McHugh replied it would be better to have the renewal
completed prior to the transfer because in August when the six-month extension for the
franchise runs out, there would not be a valid franchise to transfer because it will have
expired. Therefore, Council could not give approval for a system swap to Comcast
because there wouldn’t be a valid franchise. This was added incentive to get the job done
in the time remaining.
Mr. Dunlap added that the City Manger sent a letter to Time Warner asking them what
the impact this would have on the continuing renewal negotiations.
Commissioner Jacobson asked how the Comcast issue affected connectivity issues that
they had been working with and St. Louis Park getting internet for the citizens? Mr.
McHugh replied Comcast did not offer that kind of connectivity. They offered premium
wire line broadband service, similar to Time Warner.
Commissioner Jacobson asked if wireless internet access would be a private contract or
how it would be handled? Mr. Dunlap replied that Clint Pires was in the process of
hiring a consultant to advise the City and determine what kind of system was feasible. It
would also include what kind of business model was feasible for St. Louis Park including
partnerships with private companies and other entities such as the school district and
other cities. None of that had been determined. A study would occur in the summer.
They were tabulating the informal surveys distributed in the Park Perspective and
Business Line and the results would be available in the next week.
Commissioner Jacobson asked if the City had committed to an investment? Mr. McHugh
replied the investment to date was the fiber optic network, which connects existing City
sites to the City network. By June, the City will have fiber optics going to the Westwood
Nature Center and would not need to spend money for dedicated Qwest telephone lines
for high speed internet and network activities.
Chair Dworsky asked when Time Warner would respond to the changes? Who would
provide notification of when the transition to Comcast would take place? Mr. McHugh
stated they were waiting for the official forms from the two parties that officially
documented what they proposed to do. They didn’t anticipate significant changes and
hoped to accomplish it between nine and twelve months. Time Warner would reply to
the proposed changes at the May 18th meeting. He would send an invitation to the
Commissioners to attend.
B. Emergency Alert System update
Mr. Dunlap reported that the analog system was tested and worked, but they were unable
to test the digital emergency override. Time Warner was aware that they needed to work
on this. They would test it as soon as they could.
Commissioner Browning stated that the issue with the Emergency Broadcast system
seemed to be going on a long time. Was there a time frame where this had to be working
properly? Mr. Dunlap responded that the franchise agreement said the emergency alert
system should be available on all channels. They were working with Time Warner on
this issue.
Commissioner Browning asked if other communities had this same issue or used the same
device? Mr. Dunlap replied not all franchises called for an emergency alert system. As part
of the negotiations for renewing the franchise, Time Warner did not want to continue an alert
system like this because of the complicated way it interfaced with their digital service. He
was not sure if other cities had this. It is presently required as part of the franchise.
C. Conference policy for Commissioners
Mr. Dunlap noted this was inadvertently put on the agenda. There had not been any changes
to the policy. The City’s budget process hadn’t started yet. As they amended the budget,
staff would budget additional money to allow two commissioners to attend a conference.
D. Update on St. Louis Park wireless internet study
Mr. McHugh reported there would be a Council study session where they would get the
results from the survey. An independent consultant was compiling the results. The
Information Services Manager and the City Manager met with the St. Louis Park Business
Council to describe what the timeline was for the City evaluating its options for wireless.
Telecommunications companies and Time Warner representatives were also there. The
biggest point was that in St. Louis Park DSL is not accessible at City Hall (and many other
places) and options for broadband are limited. The process will conclude in August.
Commissioner Browning asked if this had been discussed in other communities? Mr. McHugh
replied that City staff toured the City of Chaska, which has a similar type of service.
Commissioner Jacobson asked about the possibilities of getting this installed so they
could get the services. Mr. McHugh replied the City could provide it or arrange to have
another entity provide it. Minneapolis was proposing to go with the private sector to
build the service and guarantee to deliver it at a certain price point. That way the City of
Minneapolis would not have the investment expense. The City of St. Louis Park is
reviewing all options and getting input.
8. Reports
A. Complaints
Commissioner Huiras asked about his request for information on voice over internet
telephone (VOIP) counts? Mr. Dunlap replied the number of customers that use the Belt
Line store is an average of 72 per day. Time Warner did not wish to provide information
about VOIP customers. They did not feel the City of St. Louis Park had any regulatory
authority over that and they didn’t need to provide it.
Commissioner Huiras asked about the status of the first complaint? Mr. Dunlap indicated
he would report back to the Commission.
Commissioner Huiras indicated Mr. Mattern was supposed to provide information
regarding who was dropping service and why. Mr. Dunlap replied that could be
discussed at the next meeting. The meeting in August was when they talk about their
annual filings, financial information and customer service issues.
Commissioner Jacobson believed that Time Warner was doing the same things and
thought nothing had changed or improved. On complaint number two and the bill being
wrong, he had experienced that and hadn’t gotten a correct bill for over four months.
Commissioner Browning asked if there were many service-oriented complaints? Mr.
Dunlap responded the complaints in the packet were from February 17th until the date of
this meeting. There were only three, which was not very many.
9. Communication from the Chair
Commissioner Huiras indicated that Mr. Dunlap sent an Email regarding basic
subscribers, what was the percentage? Mr. Dunlap replied the percentage was of the total
number of St. Louis Park homes with cable service.
Commissioner Huiras stated that the percentage included Road Runner subscribers that
may not be cable subscribers. Mr. Dunlap indicated there were 13,000 total households
with cable service in St. Louis Park. You don’t have to get cable service to have
Roadrunner. He was trying to track cable subscribers.
10. Communications from City Staff
Mr. Dunlap indicated on May 6th Time Warner was launching a retail product
demonstration cart at Southdale Mall to show HDTV programming, Road Runner high
speed internet and the new telephone product.
Commissioner Browning asked with regard to telephone service, were they required to
provide 911 information? Mr. Dunlap replied yes. They went through the MN State Public
Utilities Commission and their official legal position was that they didn’t feel they had to
provide this, but they would comply to the point that they could. They were doing that
voluntarily. Some operators offering this service were not doing it that way.
Commissioner Browning asked if they had back up for the system if there was a power
outage so people don’t lose phone service? Mr. Dunlap replied they had back up
systems. If they had a wire line telephone, they had battery back ups, even though the
power was out. If you have a cordless phone, with at base station plugged into the wall,
that phone wouldn’t work. The Time Warner service would be out if you don’t have
electrical service because it was not hard wired. They had an interface in each
subscriber’s home and he was unsure if there was battery back up. He could check
further and send an Email.
Commissioner Huiras noted that with Vonage, you have the ability to transfer the call to
another number such as a cell phone. Wasn’t it mandatory that they had to be able to do
911 and recognize it? Mr. Dunlap replied that Vonage does not automatically provide a
correct address to 911 and does not have the same kind of architecture that the Time
Warner system had.
Commissioner Huiras noted that Vonage had the ability to track an address. Mr. Dunlap
believed when someone logged in they could indicate where they were.
Mr. McHugh provided a handout of programs produced by community TV, channels 15 and
96. They would be receiving an FCC Form 320 from Comcast at some point. That would
start a 120-day clock for city review. They were not sure when they would receive it.
Commissioner Jacobson inquired about the date of the special meeting? Mr. Dunlap
replied it was not scheduled. They could discuss it at the August 4th mtg.
11. Adjournment
Commissioner Browning made a motion, Commission Huiras seconded to adjourn at
8:35 PM. The motion passed.
Respectfully submitted by:
Amy L. Stegora-Peterson
Recording Secretary