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ST. LOUIS PARK TELECOMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION
MEETING OF FEBRUARY 11, 2010
ST. LOUIS PARK COUNCIL CHAMBERS
MEMBERS PRESENT: Bruce Browning, Rick Dworsky, Dale Hartman, Mike Mulligan
and Rolf Peterson
MEMBERS ABSENT: David Dyer, Toby Keeler
STAFF PRESENT: Reg Dunlap, Civic TV Coordinator; John McHugh, Community
TV Coordinator; Clint Pires, Chief Information Officer; Jamie
Zwilling, Communications Coordinator
OTHERS PRESENT: Arlen Mattern, Comcast Cable Public Affairs Administrator
1. Call to Order
Chair Browning called the meeting to order at 7:00 PM.
2. Roll Call
Present at roll call were Commissioners Browning, Dworsky, Hartman, and Peterson.
Commissioner Mulligan arrived at 7:05.
3. Approval of Minutes for December 10, 2009
It was moved by Commissioner Dworsky, seconded by Commissioner Hartman, to
approve the minutes of December 10, 2009, without changes.
The motion passed 5-0.
4. Adoption of Agenda
Chair Browning requested 6C, Google Broadband Initiative, be added.
It was moved by Commissioner Peterson, seconded by Commissioner Dworsky, to
approve the agenda as amended.
The motion passed 5-0.
5. Public Comment - None
6. New Business
A. Federal Law updates including the CAP Act
Mr. Dunlap updated the Commission on a bill introduced last fall and supported by
MACTA and NATOA. Keith Ellison was a co-sponsor of the bill, but there had been no
recent action. The bill was to clean up problems for local programming entities that have
happened in other parts of the country.
B. Review School District programming reports
Mr. Dunlap indicated there was no report, but they were transitioning to have the
programming run by the City, expected to be completed by July 1st.
C. Google Broadband Initiative
Chair Browning referred to an article in the paper that Google is considering building out a
gigabyte Broadband network in select communities throughout the country. Broadband
bandwidth is falling behind in the United States, and Google is trying to shake the industry
up and get people connected to faster networks at reasonable prices.
Mr. Pires reported that the community was encouraging the City to look at this initiative
and he was researching it. Google allows people to nominate their community. The
application will require many hours of staff work to complete and it needs to go before
the City Manager and City Council. Applications need to be submitted by March 26,
2010. Google’s project would be an experiment to see if there are quicker ways to
deploy broadband. Google is interested in communities that allow aerial construction of
fiber. St. Louis Park has 27 miles of existing fiber infrastructure that is underground
because the City has been encouraging underground utilities for years, so it would
complement what Google would want to build. It would be helpful to get comments
from the Commission to pass on to the City Council.
Commissioner Dworsky believed the opportunity was timely and that the City is well
positioned. There was no down side to proceeding. Chair Browning agreed.
Mr. Pires noted that a community member had nominated St. Louis Park, and referenced
the past efforts of the City trying to deploy alternative broadband technologies. He said
many people believed they should do this.
Commissioner Peterson would like it studied further.
Chair Browning suggested Commissioners look at the article and Email comments to Mr.
Pires. The Commission could help work on the Community Benefit section.
Commissioner Mulligan asked which would be a better opportunity? Mr. Pires replied
the other opportunity was BTOP (Broadband Technologies Opportunities Program), part
of ARRA (American Recovery and Reconstruction), which was looking to expand the
fiber infrastructure. He said the chances were probably better with Google for several
reasons. It would take a lot of effort for the Google application, but BTOP had Federal
requirements that were even more intense. There are no matching fund requirements
with Google, while BTOP had a minimum of 20% matching requirements. The
application for BTOP was due before the Google application. He was still learning about
the Google possibility.
7. Unfinished Business
A. LocaLoop update
Mr. Pires noted that the multi-page agreement is unique in a couple of ways. This is one of
the first situations where a community went this far in leasing a portion of its fiber to
private entities. The City has successfully leased space for years on water towers for
wireless carriers. The LocaLoop agreement is similar because there is limited capacity and
strands of fiber. It would be “first come, first served.” Unlike water tower agreements,
LocaLoop was proposing to build just under a mile of fiber to connect to the water tower
and turn over ownership of that fiber to the City, a $60,000 value. It would extend the City
fiber network to nearly 28 miles and give non-exclusive access to the water towers.
LocaLoop wants to build the fiber extensions so they can get to the water towers, connect
to their radios and to transmit their wireless signal for fast internet bandwidth. The City
will provide credits toward LocaLoop leases based on value of the fiber that was being
built and ownership being conveyed to the City. There is agreement at the City staff level,
including the City Attorney, that the City’s interests were protected. Mr. Pires felt there
was enough capacity for the School use, City use and future use. City staff also wanted to
maintain a level playing field for other providers. LocaLoop has a parallel process going
on for leasing the water tower space and they need to do more on that. The target date was
March 1st for approval of both the fiber lease and the water tower agreements at City
Council, and deployment in the spring. Clear Wire was on the same path for approval of
water tower leases for Wi Max, but they have not expressed interest in fiber. There is
space for both companies on the water tower.
Vice Chair Browning noted the many antennas the City had for Wi-Fi, and the poles and
solar panels that some people had a problem with, disappear for a Wi Max system, which
is not a blight on city streets.
B. Long term fiber infrastructure planning update
Mr. Pires stated staff was working on the above issues, and expects that there will be
progress by the Commission’s May meeting.
C Proposed Park TV & School District #283 agreement
Mr. Zwilling stated staff at the City and School District have reached an agreement in
principal including: :
• Have City staff access to studio and develop a process during the school day
• Hope to see more use of the studio, with the District getting first choice and the
City getting more time than before
• One issue is that they had hoped school classes would work with them, which
didn’t work out. But City staff is open to training students and school staff to use
equipment.
• Several physical challenges need to be worked out, like a cable pass through a
gym door and a gate by the football field.
• Working to finalize and go through School Board action, have
Telecommunication Commission make a recommendation on agreement, then
bring to City Council.
• Working in studio every week
• Covering School Board meetings and providing Video On Demand for Board
meetings.
Commissioner Peterson noted there were many positive comments about the Video On
Demand for Board meetings. The productions done by Leslie Ferrell were absolutely
great and this was a fantastic and dependable asset. It’s great to have the staff using the
studio and covering Board meetings and there is synergy there.
Mr. Zwilling said VOD is the way things are going, and the City has 3,000 fans on
Facebook.
Chair Browning asked how the van was coming along? Mr. Zwilling said the van was
close to completion. The production equipment was installed and there would be training
in the next few weeks.
Chair Browning said it would be a great idea to have a way for the community to see the
new van. Mr. McHugh said that he was planning an open house event to do that and
would explain further later in communications.
D. Comcast audit update, including proper notice for future audits to cover
7/1/08 and onward
Mr. Dunlap received a reply about a week ago from Comcast about the report. Scott
Lewis & Associates had issued a detailed report and found a difference of $6,181. There
were two areas of dispute, $549 over tower fees and $3,200 in launch fees and marketing
revenue. Regarding tower fees, Mr. Lewis has no way of knowing where the towers are
in this area, and Robbin Pepper of Comcast says their engineers report that there are no
towers in St. Louis Park. The gist of the launch fees and marketing discrepancy is that
the way Comcast uses generally accepted accounting principals, they don’t report this as
revenue. Many auditors nation-wide look for areas that cities can push for to add revenue
for the city, and this is one of those areas. Mr. Dunlap reported the way the last 2 audits
concluded, and that the Commission has the option to continue the audit or bring it to a
conclusion. Ms. Pepper’s letter said they would pay $1,279 and $441 interest at the end
of February.
Mr. Peterson ask if, based on the letter, we’re $4,500 apart? Mr. Dunlap replied that it
was $3,263, that interest would be recalculated, because the tower rental fees don’t apply.
Chair Browning asked if their launch fee policy was uniform across the nation, and Mr.
Dunlap replied yes, that Comcast had in fact gone to court with Sacramento, California
over this issue and settled out of court. The North Suburbs have been pushing to collect
launch fees for the last several years because they had strong franchise language
pertaining to audits, but they have recently settled the matter along with other issues.
Commissioner Mulligan said that given the amount of time that would need to be spent
on the issue, and the relatively low dollar amount, that our resources would be better used
somewhere else. Chair Browning agreed.
It was moved by Commissioner Mulligan, seconded by Commissioner Hartman, to accept
the audit conclusion as proposed by Comcast ($1,620).
Mr. Pires suggested the Commissioners consider directing staff to work with the City
Attorney to see if there was a way to protect rights in the future, if the same issue comes
up again.
Mr. Dunlap suggested they could reserve the right to collect launch fee revenue in future
years.
After discussion, Commissioner Mulligan added a friendly amendment to include pending
legal verbiage, that gives the City the right to dispute these fees in the future, and
Commissioner Hartman seconded.
The motion passed as amended 5-0.
8. Reports
A. Complaints
Vice Chair Browning asked about the problem the DVR and no record of the customer
contacting them? Mr. Mattern responded either the problem was resolved or there was
nothing to go by. Chair Browning said he’d assisted two different customers and each
time the box had to be replaced and he asked how reliable they are. Mr. Mattern said it
was rare to have a problem with the cable boxes, in his experience. Occasionally there is
a problem, but the DVR’s are pretty reliable.
9. Communication from the Chair - None
10. Communications from City Staff
Mr. McHugh distributed a draft version of publicity material for Community TV-Park
TV networking night to recognize Community TV producers for 2009. The event will
happen on April 1st and this will be the first opportunity to allow tours of the new
production van.
Vice Chair Browning asked if LocaLoop would do a pilot project? Mr. Pires responded
yes, and that they would look for residents and community volunteers to do that as quickly
as possible. Mr. Pires also mentioned the possibility of a Wi-Fi hotspot at Lenox, that the
equipment is ready to go, but staff was waiting to hear the future of Lenox, since the
School Board is about announce their decision on facilities. City staff is using social media
like Facebook and Twitter, and it’s reaching the point where they would like Commissioner
input after a staff presentation. Mr. Pires said the City is considering purchasing a reverse
911 system, much like the School District has had for several years now. Reverse 911
allows targeting neighborhoods for announcements, or notifying residents city-wide if there
are major emergencies. Mr. Pires also said guitarist Sharon Isbin from St. Louis Park has
recently won her second Grammy award.
11. Adjournment
Commissioner Dworsky made a motion, Commission Peterson seconded to adjourn at
8:10. The motion passed.
Respectfully submitted by:
Amy L. Stegora-Peterson
Recording Secretary