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Meeting date: August 16, 2021
Consent agenda item: 4Ž
Official minutes
Planning commission
June 16, 2021 – 6:00 p.m.
Members present: Jim Beneke, Matt Eckholm, Courtney Erwin, Jessica Kraft, Sam Tift,
Tom Weber, Joffrey Wilson
Members absent: Imran Dagane
Staff present: Jacquelyn Kramer, Jennifer Monson, Gary Morrison, Sean Walther
Guests: none
1. Call to order – roll call
2. Approval of minutes – June 2, 2021
Commissioner Beneke made a motion, and Commissioner Kraft seconded, to approve the
minutes of June 2, 2021, as presented. The motion passed 6-0.
3. Hearings
3a. Zoning ordinance amendment pertaining to home occupations
Applicant: City of St. Louis Park
Case No: 21-24-ZA
Mr. Morrison presented the report.
Commissioner Wilson asked if there has been demand for operating businesses out of
homes historically in the city. Mr. Morrison stated there has not been a request for
home salon or barber but it was brought up as an equity issue. He stated this is most
likely the primary drive for that.
Commissioner Kraft stated the planning commission has been looking at home
occupations for a while and salons and barbers were not allowed initially as a home
occupation. It came forward as an item for further discussion.
Commissioner Beneke asked if when the council discussed this, did accessory dwelling
units come up specifically. Mr. Morrison stated yes. The concern comes with potential
nuisance in accessory buildings such as garages, so they continue to be excluded from
being used for home occupations. At this time, only occupants of an accessory dwelling
units are allowed to conduct a home occupation in the accessory dwelling unit within
the proposed ordinance.
Chair Eckholm opened the public hearing.
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There were no callers on the line.
Chair Eckholm closed the public hearing.
Chair Eckholm stated the work staff did to update this ordinance has been very good
and this brings the ordinance more in line with what the average person likely assumes
to be allowed. He will support this.
Commissioner Beneke stated he also supports the ordinance, adding the ordinance
offers more equitable opportunities.
Commissioner Beneke made a motion, and Commissioner Weber seconded, to accept the
zoning ordinance amendment pertaining to home occupations. The motion passed 6-0.
4. Other Business - none
5. Communications
Mr. Walther noted the commission will have a study session immediately following
adjourning the regular meeting. The topics to be discussed include daycare regulations,
an introduction of a development proposal anticipated for the site north of the future
Beltline Blvd. Light Rail Transit Station, and a discussion about the joint study session
commissioners had with the city council regarding the 2021 work plan. He stated the
July 7 planning commission meeting is cancelled and the next regular meeting will be
July 21.
6. Adjournment – 6:18 p.m.
Study session
The study session commenced at 6:19 p.m.
1. Daycare ordinance introduction
Mr. Morrison presented the report.
Commissioner Wilson stated there are some great parks in the city and leveraging those,
while lessening barriers to childcare, is worthwhile pursuing.
Commissioner Kraft stated she would hate to lose a dedicated park space at daycares.
Also, she stated there are peak times for drop off/pick up and parents are stuck circling;
she cautioned on parking reduction.
Chair Eckholm stated possibly incorporating a parking management plan would be in
order especially during peak times. He added traffic flow and parking needs to be safe
with children coming in and out.
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Chair Eckholm asked why the ordinance is so stringent in various areas. Mr. Morrison
stated it hasn’t been reviewed in many years and may be outdated. Chair Eckholm
stated he supports urban designs with rooftop play areas. He would want to support
that especially if there are no parks nearby.
Commissioner Weber agreed. He stated the ordinance should make it as easy as
possible for daycares and would defer to the state on regulation here.
Commissioner Tift also agreed. He asked if in the past when setting up daycares near a
highway and what are the safety standards that are looked at. Mr. Morrison stated in
the one near Highway 100, the highway is elevated so there is a concrete barrier; it was
determined to be safe there. He noted fences and barriers would help with safety
issues.
Commissioner Weber asked if there has been the same type of issues with people
wanting to do in-home day care in St. Louis Park and not being able to because of
commercial day cares. Mr. Morrison stated in-home daycares operate under a different
set of city, state, and county rules. He had not heard of any barriers to in-home day care
in the city.
Chair Eckholm stated Highway 7, 100 and 169 used to be surface highways, so perhaps
in the past the fences and barriers were needed since there was no grade or setback. He
added with the way highways are constructed now, there are barriers in place and more
fully developed. He stated possibly setback is not needed but only fencing would be
used if needed.
Commissioner Kraft noted most play areas are fenced in so this is probably not asking
something daycares do not already do.
Mr. Morrison stated the fencing or barrier will be needed for safety reasons regardless
of the location.
Commissioner Weber asked if there are playgrounds in nearby schools and if daycares
would be able to utilize those assets as well as park playgrounds.
Commissioner Kraft stated she feels it is important that a daycare not share a park and
have a dedicated play area within its property. She stated she is concerned about there
not being a dedicated space located right at the daycare itself. She asked if the state
requires a dedicated play area. Mr. Morrison stated the state allows local parks as a
substitute to the required on-site play area.
Chair Eckholm stated he is not comfortable asking a daycare to use a certain park and
not also have a dedicated on-site play space.
Commissioner Weber added he did not intend that the city’s ordinance would need to
follow all of the state regulations.
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Mr. Walther stated Commissioner Beneke serves as the school board liaison on the
commission and asked him if there are any shared aspects of this with schools.
Commissioner Beneke stated the schools are limited in the number of preschool
programs they can run but he was not sure about sharing the playgrounds. He added
there might be rules of not bringing outside groups to play at school playgrounds during
the day but noted he would check into this.
2. Sherman Associates proposed Beltline Boulevard Station Redevelopment
Ms. Monson presented the report.
Chair Eckholm stated the unit count is set on the development. He asked when they go
ahead with phase 2, would additional units be able to be added? Ms. Monson stated the
developer is locked into their unit mix for the most part. She stated the site plan is still
at five to six stories; one building will be at seven stories.
Commissioner Weber asked if the developer is in talks with a grocer. Ms. Monson stated
yes.
Commissioner Beneke asked if there is a park and ride included in the development. Ms.
Monson stated the hope was to have a lower amount of cars allowed at the park and
ride at 268 parking slots and up to 98 for resident use.
Mr. Walther added this one will be a park and ride and there is also another at Louisiana
Avenue as well.
Commissioner Beneke asked if the EAW is worrisome at all. Ms. Monson stated there
are some soil problems, but it is nothing out of the ordinary for St. Louis Park. She noted
issues that came up in the area have been solved and the developer will be applying for
grants to help.
Commissioner Weber asked if phase 1 happens and then in phase 2 the affordable gets
cancelled, does the city have safeguards in place on this? Ms. Monson stated yes and
that will all be included in the contracts. She also noted there will TIF applied for by the
developer as well, to help with this. Mr. Walther stated typically the financing takes
about two years to set up in a development like this.
Commissioner Wilson asked if there will be infrastructure provided in the development,
so it is not more expensive to add this in the future. Ms. Monson stated yes, noting
there will be conduit and EV chargers included in the development.
Commissioner Kraft asked for the timeline for phase 2 being built and what it will look
like before phase 2 is built. Ms. Monson stated she knows the park and ride will have to
be set before light rail begins operation. Phase 2 should be completed then or shortly
thereafter, as the developer will have their tax credits by then.
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Chair Eckholm asked if there is pressure from the grocer for surface parking. He stated
he sees a lot of parking in the development and would like to see it broken up a bit, such
as 90-degree parking or parallel parking in the actual implementation.
Commissioner Beneke noted the water quality in Bass Lake, noting the development
might be able to help the water quality there as well, when following all the
requirements. Ms. Monson stated this is correct. Ms. Walther added some of the water
management issues have already been addressed following the watershed
requirements.
Chair Eckholm asked what the vision is related to retail at the development. Ms.
Monson stated the city is working to keep that in there and the developer is looking at a
coffee shop. Commissioner Weber stated but Nordicware has a coffee shop right across
the street already. Ms. Monson stated that is correct, adding the city only wants
something there and does not have a preference as to what it is.
3. 2021 Work Plan
Mr. Walther stated this portion of the meeting is for the commission to make comments
related to the work plan and councils debrief. He added if there was specific direction
for staff, they would also appreciate that feedback as well.
Chair Eckholm asked about the council’s stance on the analysis of build size for
residential buildings and putting that on the back burner.
Mr. Walther stated that is correct, adding there were only two councilmembers in
support of the amendment provided by staff. He noted council will further discuss this
and come back to the commission with more direction.
Commissioner Beneke asked if the concern was the size of single-family homes. Mr.
Walther stated yes and noted there were several proposals on how to address this but
the council did not support the items brought forth by staff.
Commissioner Beneke asked if this relates at all to the percentage of rentals vs. owner
occupied units. Mr. Walther stated there was some conversation around two-family
dwellings in lower density areas and identify areas where three and four-plex’s might be
appropriate. This item may be another area the council will look into to help support
first-time home ownership.
Chair Eckholm asked if there is any way to look at having more owner-occupied
multifamily housing. Mr. Walther stated there are some issues with state regulations on
this type of building not moving ahead in the state. Mr. Walther stated condos are
currently not being pursued at all in the state.
Commissioner Wilson agreed there is opportunity with condos, but challenges to get
there.
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Mr. Walther added there are also different construction requirements when converting
apartments to condos, and in building condos.
Chair Eckholm asked if these discussions related to triplexes and quads would be
worthwhile to include in the work plan as there seems to be interest by the council on
this. He added also that the council was interested in early discussions on neighborhood
commercial uses within residential neighborhoods. He noted this might be related to
food security and having grocery stores close by in neighborhoods.
Mr. Walther stated there are two paths to look at multiple items: bring individual items
to the commission and council over a year or two or to look at everything at once and
pursue a more sweeping amendment that takes in all these topics. Chair Eckholm stated
this is helpful to hear and a good concept.
Commissioner Beneke stated this would be a way to work out any issues over two years
vs. rushing in and doing everything at once. Mr. Walther agreed.
Commissioner Wilson agreed there is benefit in taking things one at a time and being
mindful that all things are interconnected.
Mr. Walther stated that there may be room to add to the work plan list but stated it is a
large list at this point. He added the transit-oriented development district zoning code
amendment is a huge topic for staff and a consultant may be brought in to help on this
item.
Mr. Walther noted the city hall HVAC equipment has all been updated and has been
used at city council meetings. He noted the city council chambers also have dividers that
can be used at the dais and if the commission is interested in utilizing these, they are
available. He added all are welcome to use masks as they so choose to. He noted the
public will now be invited to all future meetings and the commissioners can also be
seated six feet apart if so desired.
Mr. Walther stated he will work with facilities on the commission’s requests for the in-
person meeting space. He added there will no longer be Webex meetings and no longer
a call-in number to listen to meetings, although there will still be a call-in number for
public hearings. He also added if residents want to participate in study sessions, they
will have to be at the meeting in person.
4. Adjournment – 7:50 p.m.
Sean Walther Matt Eckholm
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Sean Walther, liaison Matt Eckholm, chair member