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OFFICIAL MINUTES
CHARTER COMMISSION MEETING
ST. LOUIS PARK, MINNESOTA
March 13, 2018
5:30 p.m. – City Council Chambers, City Hall
1. Call to Order
Chair Maaske called the meeting to order at 5:30 p.m.
2. Roll Call and Attendance
Members Present: Maren Anderson, JC Beckstrand (arrived 5:40 pm), Jim Brimeyer, Lynne
Carper (arrived at 5:55 pm), Jim de Lambert, Terry Dwyer, David Dyer (arrived 5:35 pm), Ken
Gothberg, Andrew Rose, Sara Maaske, Erin Smith, and Henry Solmer.
Members Absent: Gary Carlson (absence excused), Matthew Flory
Others Present: Nancy Deno (Deputy City Manager/HR Director), Soren Mattick (City Attorney),
and Melissa Kennedy (City Clerk)
3. Approval of Minutes
a. Minutes of January 10, 2018 Charter Commission Meeting
b. Minutes of February 13, 2018 Charter Commission Meeting
c. Minutes of March 6, 2018 Charter Commission Listening Session
It was moved by Commissioner Gothberg, seconded by Commissioner Rose, to approve the
minutes of January 10, 2018, February 13, 2018, and March 6, 2018 as presented. The motion
passed 9-0.
4. Old Business
a. Proposed Charter Amendment related to Ranked Choice Voting (RCV)
Chair Maaske asked for comments from the commission on the proposed Charter amendments.
Commissioner Gothberg read a prepared statement:
“I still don’t believe we need RCV in St. Louis Park. Although Minneapolis and St. Paul
have been successful with RCV, anyone who has watched their divisive city elections in
the past understands why they needed to do something different and it’s great that they
have been successful. People say RCV will make elections more civil. St. Louis Park has
a history of civil, positive elections for city offices. It’s only been state and federal
elections that become divisive due to party influences.
Some say it eliminates the “spoiler” issue. In any election with more than two candidates
some candidates will be viewed as spoilers – particularly supporters of the non-winners.
Single issue candidates will be reduced. There will always be some single issue candidates.
In RCV the impetus is to tell all the voters what they want to hear. I would rather have
candidates speak honestly.
RCV claims to result in a clear majority winner. Actually, it results in a consensus plurality
by eliminating voters’ votes. The result in RCV is some voters get two votes counted,
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some get one vote and some get zero votes because they didn’t vote for the “right
candidates”. I have always believed in one voter, one vote.
General wisdom is that RCV encourages more non-traditional candidates. In my opinion,
if I was a non-traditional candidate, I would feel more positive if I only had to receive more
votes than the other candidate and win with a plurality. I believe RCV would encourage
deal making between traditional candidates and try to shut out the non-traditional
candidates. Beware of unintended consequences. Or, perhaps this is just a way to shut out
non-traditional candidates. Is that the true objective of RCV in St. Louis Park? I hope not.
St. Louis Park has always been a welcoming community.
There is no evidence to support the need for RCV in St. Louis Park. By eliminating
primaries we have shortened the duration of campaigns and made it more feasible for more
candidates, both traditional and non-traditional, to enter city elections. With more
candidates election interest should increase, raising voter turnout. I don’t believe we need
RCV to do this.
I may be wrong, but I would like to see some evidence that we need RCV before we take
this step.
One item that has not been publicized strong enough by City staff is that not only did we
eliminate the primaries, we also increased the number of petition signatures required to be
placed on the ballot. This needs to be emphasized much more broadly before the next
election.”
Commissioner Brimeyer stated that when the decision was made to eliminate primary elections he
really felt it was for a good reason and he thought a natural progression from that decision would
be moving to RCV. He noted that no voting method will ever solve the issue of divisiveness in
elections because that is part of the culture. He agreed St. Louis Park generally has civil elections
and he does not believe RCV is going to change that either, because that is not the culture in this
community. He stated the major thing he learned from the Expert Q&A Panel was that RCV works
and it is a good thing to have – the key is educating people. He referenced the comments received
at the Listening Session, focusing on the concerns that were raised regarding fraud, flaws in the
counting method, and that the voting process itself is complicated. He explained he disc ussed
some of the concerns raised with the City Clerk to learn more about the counting process used in
Minneapolis, the ballot styles used in Minneapolis and St. Paul, and the capabilities of the existing
tabulation equipment. He stated although he acknowledges that parts of the counting process did
seem a bit complicated, he feels that staff will be able to figure out an easier and quicker way of
tabulating results. He added that St. Louis Park should have been the first city in the State to
switch to this voting method for city elections. He questioned why the city should wait for a
problem to happen and then react to it versus making a proactive decision. He noted that the
education piece is extraordinarily important and he wants to make sure that is not overlooked.
Commissioner Beckstrand stated he has considered this issue from the perspective of an
unwavering desire to ensure that all eligible voters have an opportunity to vote and are able to have
their ballot counted accurately and securely. He explained if voter turnout is actually increased,
he is in favor of it. If candidate diversity will improve, he is in favor of it. If it diminishes overtly
negative campaigning, he is in favor of it. At the same time if it instills fear or uncertainty because
of the education component or prevents an eligible voter from exercising their right to vote, he is
against it. If it increases the complexity in terms of tabulation or introduces avenues for fraud, he
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is against it. If it overly homogenizes candidates’ messaging because there is too little
differentiation between candidates, he does not like the idea of simply creating a false majority.
He added that he also does not necessarily believe that there is a specific problem to be solved.
He is of the mindset that the Charter can exist as a living document that can be changed to reflect
the changing needs of the community. He stated he serves in an appointed position on the
Commission, he is not elected, and he does not have to answer directly to the voters – that is the
role of the council. He explained he does not want to stand in the way of the council being able to
do the job for which they were elected, and he does not want to stand in the way of this moving
forward. He noted he is extremely proud of the deliberative process the Charter Commission has
gone through to consider this policy question and stated staff has been extremely helpful and easy
to work with. He added that he values the diversity of opinions on the Commission and that they
are able to have open discussions and work together in a respectful manner.
City Attorney Mattick stated that a resolution was prepared that would formalize the Commission’s
recommendation to adopt the proposed ordinance.
Commissioner Dyer stated in his role as a commissioner he has to look at policy questions from
the perspective of what is best for St. Louis Park as a whole. He explained when this discussion
first started his main concern was making sure that people in St. Louis Park had a voice in this
decision. He stated he liked the process the Commission went through to research, gather
information, and hear from the people because it has helped him make a clear decision. He added
he feels that the Commission has done its due diligence on this policy question.
Commissioner de Lambert agreed with Commissioner Dyer’s statements. He thanked city staff
and all those who participated in the Expert Panel discussion and Listening Session and he found
all of the input to be valuable.
Commissioner Dwyer thanked city staff for their hard work and the time they put in to assisting
the Commission throughout this process. He stated although he will be voting in favor of moving
forward with the amendment, it is not with the same enthusiasm he had at the onset of the
Commission’s discussions. He noted that is a testament to how thorough the process has been to
study and learn about this issue. He stated that RCV is not perfect. The process has shortcomings
and he hopes that some of those shortcomings won’t materialize in St. Louis Park’s
implementation. He noted in some respects RCV is a workaround to a broader process that is
outside of the city’s control to fix. He stated he is hopeful that in the broader system the things
that are not within our control but can affect us may cause us to revisit this issue in the future.
Perhaps we will have a more engaged voting process, perhaps voting itself will be easier and more
accessible. He reiterated that RCV is not perfect but this is not necessarily all about solving
problems, it is about establishing and communicating the values we want this community to have.
Commissioner Smith thanked city staff and stated throughout the process they were very
responsive to the requests from the Commission and from the public. She also thanked her fellow
commissioners for the thoughtful and respectful discussion throughout the process.
Commissioner Maaske echoed all of the thanks other commissioners previously mentioned. She
stated this has been a very fruitful process and an opportunity to dig deeper into an issue she
initially did not know very much about. She agreed that RCV is one option for St. Louis Park to
consider. She questioned if the city was a business serving a customer base the size of St. Louis
Park and they were embarking on a system change for product delivery that would affect the entire
customer base, would they just go with the company that made the most aggressive sales pitch.
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She stated she believes the city would evaluate the options and choose the solution that creates the
best value, the least impact on service, and improves the customer experience. She added that
when asked why St. Louis Park needs RCV, they should identify the problems that exist and then
determine what policy options are available to help address those problems. She noted that RCV
is not the only option available to St. Louis Park. She stated advocates of RCV have presented
data in a way that is persuasive and compelling for their case because that is what advocates do.
However the analysis is incomplete because it does not take into account the other variables that
affect how and why people vote or decide to run for office. She explained like Minneapolis and
St. Paul, St. Louis Park also had a high turnout during the 2017 election cycle – the highest since
2001. The climate of the electorate is at least one other variable that factors into people going to
the polls to vote. She stated she has also heard that by making this move they are reflecting the
progressive values and the tradition of engagement in St. Louis Park, yet they have seen and heard
from virtually the same faces and voices throughout this process. She noted she was personally
disappointed in their ability to engage people whose voices aren’t loud and not typically heard.
The result is a small group of people telling voters that they know what type of voting system is
best, even though they have not truly heard from the populous or examined all of the options. She
offered for consideration an incremental step for the next election cycle that would allow more
time to examine all of the options. She stated combining the 2019 at-large races into one race in
which the top two vote-getters are elected, mirroring the same voting process used for school board
elections, it would make both seats more competitive and provide more consistency for voters
across the ballot. She explained for all of the reasons she has outlined, she will not support a
recommendation to council to advance RCV in St. Louis Park.
It was moved by Commissioner Brimeyer, seconded by Commissioner de Lambert, to approve
Resolution No. 18-001 recommending that the St. Louis Park City Council adopt a Charter
Amendment by Ordinance Authorizing Ranked Choice Voting. The motion passed 10-2 (Gothberg,
Maaske).
b. Verbal Update on Amendment related to Campaign Finance Contribution Limits
Ms. Kennedy stated that the Council adopted the ordinance to amend the City Charter related to
campaign finance contribution limits on February 5, 2018. The amendment takes effect 90-days
after passage and publication according to law, on May 16, 2018. She noted that the Charter would
be updated and distributed to the Commission once the amendment officially takes effect.
5. New Business
a. Proposed Annual Report for District Court – Year 2017
It was moved by Commissioner Smith, seconded by Commissioner Brimeyer, to approve the 2017
Annual Report and to direct staff to submit to the report to the District Court. The motion passed
12-0.
b. Election of Officers
Chair Maaske stated that the Election of Officers for Chair, Vice Chair, and Secretary takes place
at each annual meeting.
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It was moved by Commissioner Dyer, seconded by Commissioner Dwyer, to appoint Sara Maaske
as Chair of the Charter Commission until the next annual meeting of the Charter Commission.
The motion passed 12-0.
It was moved by Commissioner Beckstrand, seconded by Commissioner Rose, to appoint David
Dyer as Vice Chair of the Charter Commission until the next annual meeting of the Charter
Commission. The motion passed 12-0.
It was moved by Commissioner Gothberg, seconded by Commissioner Rose, to appoint Terry
Dwyer as Secretary of the Charter Commission until the next annual meeting of the Charter
Commission. The motion passed 12-0.
c. Legislative Update – Verbal
Ms. Kennedy stated staff was notified on Monday that a bill had been proposed in the House
regarding a prohibition of Ranked Choice Voting. She noted the bill was H.F. No. 3690 and the
companion bill from the Senate had just been released, S.F. No. 3325. She stated staff would
continue to monitor the progress of this bill and would keep the Commission apprised of any
significant changes or actions.
Ms. Kennedy also noted that the City Council had mentioned a need for a more thorough review
of the Charter to update any outdated language, insert gender-neutral language, and to make sure
there are no conflicts with State law. She stated this would be brought back to the Commission at
a later date once more information and direction was received from council.
6. Future Meetings
The Commission set the date of their next annual meeting for March 12, 2019 at 6:00 pm at City
Hall. The Commission asked staff to inform them if a meeting was needed to conduct business
prior to that date.
7. Communications
a. Public Communications received by staff since February 28, 2018 meeting
8. Adjournment
It was moved by Commissioner Beckstrand, seconded by Commissioner Brimeyer, to adjourn the
meeting. The motion passed 12-0.
The meeting adjourned at 6:16 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by: Melissa Kennedy, City Clerk