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PLANNING COMMISSION
ST. LOUIS PARK, MINNESOTA
APRIL 3, 2019 – 6:00 p.m.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
MEMBERS PRESENT: Lisa Peilen, Carl Robertson, Matt Eckholm, Lynne Carper, Joe
Tatalovich, Jessica Kraft, Claudia Johnston-Madison
MEMBERS ABSENT: Alanna Franklin, Joe Tatalovich
STAFF PRESENT: Jacquelyn Kramer, Sean Walther
1.Call to Order – Roll Call
2.Approval of Minutes: None
3.Public Hearings
A.Home Occupations
Applicant: City of St. Louis Park
Case Nos: 18-43-ZA
Mr. Sean Walther, Planning and Zoning Supervisor, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Peilen stated she doesn’t understand why the city would care what
happens within the house.
Commissioner Carper asked how we would address the issue of space that is
allowed within a home when it comes down to a full basement.
Mr. Walther responded that staff would likely consider that to be one room.
Commissioner Carper asked if that would mean it’s impossible to have any of the
business upstairs above the basement, would it all need to be downstairs?
Mr. Walther responded that in that situation that would be correct.
Commissioner Carper asked about business not being able to be conducted within
in any attached or detached accessory building, would this also mean they cannot
use the accessory building for storage.
Mr. Walther responded that if the items are specifically related to the home
occupation then it would be prohibited, but if the items could be used for the
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principal use of the site, which is a residence, then that m ay be allowed. It’s a fine
line but this rule has been in place for many years. Additionally, this is not a change
that’s being proposed, this is the current regulation.
Commissioner Carper asked how we can go about changing this rule.
Mr. Walther responded that if there was complete agreement in what the rule
ought to be the commission could make the change and edit the rule this evening.
If it’s something that will need additional discussion, it would be best to hold off to
discuss this at a future date.
Commissioner Peilen asked when this item would be going to council.
Mr. Walther responded if it’s moved on this evening, it will likely go to council in
May.
Commissioner Peilen stated if this is the current rule, then we’re debating
something that’s already been adopted by a previous council.
Commissioner Carper brought up the issue of only being able to have items related
to the home reside in an accessory building and related it to a possible mailing
business where you may need to ship things out. This would require you to have a
scale for weighing packages, packing materials and other various material to get the
job done. These items aren’t usually found in the home.
Commissioner Carper asked about the policy regarding no person should be
employed at the residence who does not legally reside in the home, the exception
being a licensed group family. He asked if this is only full-time employment, or are
we itemizing any type of employment? He provided an example of a business
owner having their book keeper coming in to do paperwork and financials for the
business. The rule would say they could not come in because they are an employee
of the home owner.
Mr. Walther responded that this is a fine point, but if they are employed simply and
only by that business, that would not be allowed if they’re not residing on the site.
This policy is intended for the residence of the home who is running the business,
not for outside employees being dispatched to the location.
Commissioner Carper asked about how the businesses were chosen to be excluded
as home occupations.
Mr. Walther responded he can only speak on the items that were added, not to the
previous uses already listed. The newly listed items are added because zoning
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includes restrictions from being located within a certain distance to residential and
so therefore should not be allow in residences and residential zoning districts.
Commissioner Johnston-Madison said she shares similar issues of that of
Commissioner Peilen and Commissioner Carper. She stated the commissioners
were asked if they would agree to add restricting firearm sales as a home
occupation. Planning commission learned more about the ordinance that has been
in effect for several years and hasn’t been reviewed for some time. Commissioner
Johnston-Madison said she wants to review this ordinance further to make more
changes to the policy.
Commissioner Carper asked Mr. Walther about the repetition of the ordinance in
multiple sections.
Mr. Walther explained that the home occupation rules are listed in each residential
zoning district under the accessory uses that are allowed in the district. This makes
the rules easier to find for residents when viewing the uses allowed in the district
they live in.
Commissioner Robertson asked about the accessory building section where it
discusses attached and detached accessory buildings and clarified that an attached
accessory building would include an attached garage.
Mr. Walther responded in the affirmative.
Chair Eckholm opened the public hearing. As no one was present wishing to speak,
the Chair closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Kraft commented that she can buy the argument on the suggested
exclusions for home occupations as those uses already are required to be a certain
distance away from residential. It would seem counterintuitive to then allow them
to be a home occupation.
Commissioner Roberts said he agrees with Commissioner Johnston-Madison, that
the ordinance needs to be relooked at. Having issues with how the ordinance is and
adding to it does not help it, nor does it seem necessary.
Commissioner Peilen said some of the proposals could have a negative impact on
people’s ability to be successful in a home-based business. She offered a motion to
strike the rule that says, “Space within the dwelling devoted to the home
occupation does not exceed one room or 10 percent of the floor area whichever is
greater.”
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The chair said the motion is on the table and asked if anyone would second. There
was no second on the motion.
Mr. Walther added that the purpose behind having a restriction on the amount of
space in the home that is used for the home occupation is to get at the heart of this
as an accessory use. It is common to find this rule in an ordinance like this
throughout the country, whether 10% is the right number is another question.
Commissioner Peilen responded that what makes the use incidental is the
frequency.
Commissioner Carper commented that we need something that will restrict but
doesn’t leave the door open for abuse.
Commissioner Peilen stated there is never going to be a perfect ordinance.
Someone can always find a way around one if they want to and felt this will do
more harm than good. She shared a hypothetical example when using more than
one room or 10% of a house may be needed at times. She stated she is open to
redefining the amount of space.
Commissioner Robertson said he believes there should be a percentage and 10%
seems too low, but that it also should be noticeably less than 50% because we do
want it to be an accessory use. The ordinance needs to be reworked and he does
not want to approve anything to move ahead without doing so.
Commissioner Peilen withdrew her previous motion.
Commissioner Carper responded that the commissioners were brought the
ordinance solely look at firearm sales in the home and have discovered that there’s
other issues in terms of appropriate restriction within the ordinance. It’s important
this ordinance not go through and to start immediately convening study sessions to
work on redoing the ordinance.
Commissioner Johnston-Madison said if they are to consider adding the five
categories she is against it.
Commissioner Kraft added that a lot of the issues everyone seems to have with this
ordinance are already in effect today and having everyone vote for this or against it
doesn’t change those items. It’s something everyone should be considering while
voting tonight.
Commissioner Robertson made a motion to not approve these changes to the
zoning code. Commissioner Johnston- Madison seconded the motion.
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Commissioner Peilen said she also supports the motion, but she comes from a
different place because she would like to support the restriction of firearm sales.
She is tempted to vote for it, but cannot support the overall proposal.
Chair Eckholm said he also supports the firearm restrictions as written as well as
the other four businesses, but the topic has revealed deeper issues with this
ordinance that need to be addressed that might not ever be addressed if we just
pass it as written.
Commissioner Carper said if we were to prevent firearm sales under this ordinance
it wouldn’t make any difference in terms of gun ownership to people who live in St.
Louis Park, Minneapolis, Minnesota and the United States. He continued his
response by saying it doesn’t cut off a supply of guns to criminals or anyone else
and if we were to add another gun seller to the city it wouldn’t make a big
difference either due to how well regulated they are.
Commissioner Robertson presented the motion again, to not approve the changes
to the zoning code, and the motion passed on a vote of 4-1-1 (Commissioner Kraft
opposed, Chair Eckholm abstained).
4.Other Business: None
5.Communications:
Mr. Walther reminded commissioners that on Monday, April 8th there would be
a joint study session with City Council to discuss two items on their agenda. One
is the Ground-Floor Commercial Transparency Requirements. The other is the
2019 Work Plan. The Commission’s items should begin around 7:30 p.m. though
the meeting starts at 6:30p.m.
Mr. Walther said there is a study session immediately following the regular
meeting tonight, to discuss multiple zoning map amendments related to the
comprehensive plan land use changes that have been approved by the City
Council. There are about one hundred ten properties in the community that
were re-guided for a different future land use.
6.Adjournment
The meeting adjourned at 6:47 p.m. and was followed by a study session.
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STUDY SESSION
1.Comprehensive plan related zoning map amendments
Ms. Kramer summarized the comprehensive plan and explained that the re-guiding of
the parcels resulted in about 72 of the properties with a mismatch between the new
land use guidance and the existing zoning.
Ms. Kramer and the Commissioners discussed options on the best strategy to make
affected property owners and neighbors aware of the comprehensive rezoning process.
Staff proposed an open house-style meeting to answer questions from residents and
property owners. Advertising for the open house would be mailed to all properties
within 350 feet of a parcel that is proposed to be rezoned and through the City’s social
media. By hosting this open house, staff hope to gauge interest in the future public
hearing with the Planning Commission.
Commissioners agreed on staff hosting an open house for the public. The meeting is
planned for May and the public hearing would occur sometime in June.
Ms. Kramer reviewed the zoning map and the proposed zoning changes.
Mr. Walther and commissioners discussed a potential transit oriented development
(TOD) zoning district that is needed as a result of the new land use guidance.
Architectural standards, housing density, and inclusionary housing requirements were
included in the discussion. The commission agreed that until a TOD district is
established, staff should rezone parcels guided for TOD to one of the city’s current
zoning district categories, such as mixed use, business park, office, high density
residential or general commercial.
The study session adjourned at 7:52 p.m.