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City council study session
St. Louis Park, Minnesota
July 8, 2019
The meeting convened at 6:30 p.m.
Councilmembers present: Mayor Jake Spano, Tim Brausen, Steve Hallfin, Rachel Harris, Anne
Mavity, Thom Miller, and Margaret Rog.
Councilmembers absent: None.
Staff present: City Manager (Mr. Harmening), City Attorney (Mr. Mattick), Deputy City
Manager/Human Resources Director (Ms. Deno), CIO (Mr. Pires), Director of Community
Development (Ms. Barton), Senior Planner (Mr. Walther), Building and Energy Manager (Mr.
Skellet), Communications Manager (Ms. Smith), Sr. Management Analyst (Ms. Carrillo Perez),
and Recording Secretary (Ms. Pappas).
Guests: St. Louis Park Nest Board Members; Katie Jones, Center for Energy and Environment
1. Future study session agenda planning – July 15 and July 22
Proposed future study session agenda topics:
- Return to reciting the Pledge of Allegiance at regular city council meetings
Mayor Spano opened the meeting, stated this is not a public hearing, and noted the council has
not had the practice of reciting Pledge of Allegiance before a study session.
Mayor Spano noted there will be two proposals presented at the study session this evening that
will be considered for a future study session agenda topic.
Mayor Spano presented his proposal, which would be to return to reciting the pledge. He noted
the very strong response from the community in the past few weeks regarding stopping saying
the pledge. This proposal would allow for a return to reciting the pledge. He noted the vote was
a missed step and added the council should have discussed this with the community before
voting.
Mayor Spano stated in his conversations over the last 10 days with community members, he
has heard many like participating in the city’s cultural norms, including reciting the pledge. He
added as a council, they did not think this would be a big deal, but it is, and they may have
missed the mark, and will need to go back to discuss it.
Councilmember Mavity stated all protocols were followed related to this vote, adding the
Mayor missed all the meetings where it was discussed and voted on . She stated reducing how
often we say the pledge has touched a nerve in St. Louis Park, and as a proud American she’s
appalled that our little towns’ protocols have caused this issue. She stated she wants to be sure
to focus on the issues that matter such as climate action and clean water.
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Councilmember Mavity apologized to staff, noting they have been on the receiving end o f
horrible and hateful calls. She noted this was not the council’s intention , but added the council
fumbled by not being in conversation with residents, stating she wants to make sure they get it
right this time, and be in conversation with residents.
Councilmember Mavity stated she proposes to use this moment to start a deeper conversation
and discussion on what it means to be a resident of St. Louis Park, how to best express this, and
move closer to liberty and justice for all. She hopes the outcome will get the community past
“yes-no” only, and ensure the council creates a process to engage in conversation s and listen
deeply to one another instead of creating polarization. She stated she wants to make sure
space is created to talk about this, and through this process, everyone will think of more ways
to mark patriotism, adding she is confident residents can help do this.
Councilmember Rog stated she acknowledges the discomfort this caused for residents, adding
this has hurt people across this community. She added this action has done more harm than
good, especially since many thought the city council spoke for them. She stated the council
needs to get better at thinking about unintended consequences of their actions. She noted she
is the daughter and wife of veterans and did not realize until now how deep this is. She hopes
this can be a teachable moment, that there will be gain from pain, and she wants to use this
moment to engage the public and to listen and learn from one another . She stated she is in
favor of putting this on a future study session agenda, for further discussion.
Councilmember Hallfin stated he feels the council made a mistake and would like to return to
the former practice of reciting the pledge at the beginning of the city council meetings. He
stated he would need to think about doing a deeper dive discussion, as mentioned by
Councilmember Mavity, and is not necessarily in favor of that, adding a deep dive discussion
won’t help the council with city business. He added he would be open to further discussion.
Councilmember Miller stated he would be more in favor of Councilmember Mavity’s proposal
and more open discussion. He stated he has learned that this is not so much about the pledge
itself, but about the core values the pledge represents. He stated he heard again and again that
the council needs to do a better job of communicating intent, adding the local media filtered
the information. He complimented the Sun Sailor coverage, noting it was balanced and truthful.
He stated because of the media coverage, many thought the council was banning the pledge
from meetings, but that is not correct. He stated the council had only decided to not recite it at
every council meeting. He stated he wants to discuss this further at a future study session.
Councilmember Brausen apologized to staff also for the situation this placed them in . He stated
this was a tremendous distraction to them and he is sorry this caused so much grief.
Councilmember Brausen stated the council wanted to change t he way it starts its meetings and
was looking for a way to make meetings more comfortable for a variety of residents. He noted
the pledge is not required by state law or the city charter, and he was surprised the city and
many across the country have reacted so violently.
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Councilmember Brausen stated he cares about veterans, the military, and his country, adding
the council shows up every week to work on issues such as climate change, racial equity , and
affordable housing. He added he heard from 150 people nationwide on this issue, and the
majority of national sentiment was responsive to hearing the pledge be banned by the council .
However, he added, many are offended that the council is playing with their hallowed
traditions.
Councilmember Brausen added he also heard from 50-60 St. Louis Park residents who 2-1 want
to reinstate the pledge, and he understands this is a good opportunity to talk and understand
what real patriotism is. He stated the council made this change to welcome a diverse
population, including fellow citizens that are atheist or agnostic, or who were traumatized in
the military as soldiers. He noted a letter he received from a disabled vet who said he does not
need to say the pledge, because he is living it every day.
Councilmember Harris stated she also received messages from many residents and folks across
the country. She noted in the ward she represents in St. Louis Park, half of the people she heard
from were in favor of the change, and half were opposed, while some were indifferent. She
stated there is a need to hear more from residents in the comm unity and have an open
dialogue. She added her position on the original vote was that as a council member she took an
oath to uphold the constitution and the constitution speaks to the separation of church and
state – noting that the Pledge of Allegiance does contain the language, “one nation, under
God”. She stated she is, however, in favor of reinstating the pledge at this time.
Mayor Spano stated part of the reason he is not interested in a deep dive discussion of this is
that the city recently spent over a year on a visioning process and deciding on 5 strategic
priorities for the city. He stated we don’t need to discuss this as the community told us what
they want us to work on. He suggested the council move quickly on reinstating the pledge. As
this relates to process, he noted he did miss the meeting when it was voted on, but understood
this item was set for a future study session review and discussion, and at some point , it was put
forward for a vote. He assumed if it was moved forward for a study session topic that would
have included a discussion with the community.
Councilmember Mavity stated the topic was placed on the agenda for a vote by a majority of
the council and process was followed. She noted it was on the agenda that councilmembers are
all supposed to read.
It was the consensus of the council to bring this topic back to a future study session in order to
revisit it, have discussion about further community input, engagement and conversation, and
then make a decision as to how to proceed.
The council took a 10-minute recess.
2. SLP Nest annual report and funding request
Ms. Barton noted last year the council approved $25,000 in matching city funds to support the
work of the Nest in their first fiscal year of operation. At tonight’s meeting, the Nest board
members will provide a recap of what was accomplished and learned in the Nest’s first year,
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and explain plans for year two. The Nest has raised approximately $39,000 toward their year
two campaign goal of $95,000 and is requesting matching funds from the city of $20,000 .
Board members presenting included: Ellen, youth coordinator; Rachel, mental health
committee; Nisha, mental health committee; Estelle, programming committee and Cole.
The board members presented a video and noted creation and renovation of the space, with
coffee shop, and event space. They stated they developed a weekly schedule and community
partnerships, presented music, concerts and student council and Roots and Shoots events and
meetings as well. Ellen stated the space is a welcoming teen-centric space, serving a diverse
community. The group added they want to work on making their leadership/board group more
diverse as well, and want everyone to know they are welcome at the Nest.
The board members stated they work on building life skills, professional and leadership
development and creation and promotion of mental health programming. They noted students
lead all meetings, and fundraising is crucial to the program as they are a 501 c 3 nonprofit
organization.
Councilmember Harris asked what sort of partnerships would benefit the group in year two.
Ellen stated hosting SOAR meetings, where students work against racism, along with doing peer
to peer training. Councilmember Harris encouraged the group to reach out to Debbie Rose in
family services, and also asked if adults meet at the Nest. Ellen stated a couple adult groups
meet regularly.
It was the consensus of the council to support the Nest with the $20,000 matching funds
request for year two of operations. Mayor Spano praised the group on their example of youth
leadership, adding the community is proud of them all and thanked them for their dedication
and hard work on the Nest.
3. C-1 zoning district retail and service use restrictions
Mr. Walther noted this report is a follow-up from the March 11, 2019 council discussion of the
planning commission recommendations. He noted staff seeks direction from council on
whether this topic should proceed with the formal public hearing process for the ordinance as
recommended by the planning commission, or if the council has amendments to the proposed
ordinance.
Councilmember Harris asked about allowing a Global Market type of multi-vendor complex in
C1. Mr. Walther stated that scale of business would not likely work in C1 because none of the
city’s C1 properties are large enough to accommodate that use. He added a more common
multi-tenant use in the C1 district might be a small strip mall.
Councilmember Mavity wanted clarification on C1 and C2 zoning districts and what conditions
are allowed or need to be met for 20,000 square feet and if there are any specific proposals
under consideration. Mr. Walther stated there are no current proposals and the city would
need to rely on its current code text for any new applications that the city receives.
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Councilmember Mavity stated she has concerns about a 20,000 square foot development in a
C1 district and wants to be sure they proceed cautiously. She asked to see a map of the C1
districts and land parcels or hubs where changes would occur. She added the council is trying to
promote small and local businesses, and she has concerns about offering large scale big box
retailers the opportunity to come into neighborhoods and small business areas that are meant
to be walkable and are adjacent to residential. She added this is not a good fit and is not
consistent with the comprehensive plan goals.
Councilmember Mavity asked if the Historic Walker Lake area is C1. Mr. Walther stated no, it is
a combination of C2 and Industrial Park zoning. He said the small area plan for the Historic
Walker Lake area recommended the city consider an overlay zoning district for that area. He
shared a map of the areas of the city current ly zoned C2 that the planning commission and city
council have previously discussed rezoning to a different zoning district. He added that 73
parcels around the city are being rezoned in order to begin implementing the comprehensive
plan which includes some of the current C2 parcels.
Councilmember Rog agreed and stated she does not approve of the 20,000 square foot limit .
Councilmember Miller agreed with both Councilmembers Mavity and Rog and asked if any
properties will be grandfathered in to the new limits. Mr. Walther stated this would need to be
researched to determine which and how many parcels would become legal, non -conforming
uses, and those sites, and buildings and uses would be allowed to continue as long as the
property uses are not abandoned for a period of time.
Councilmember Harris noted staff’s streamlining process and added the 20,000 square foot
limit may need more conversation; however, she is in favor of a smaller footprint.
Councilmember Brausen is supportive of the planning commission’s changes. Councilmember
Hallfin agreed and stated he supports the planning commission’s changes as well.
Mayor Spano stated he feels like the 7,500 square foot maximum for retail and service uses
allowed administratively is agreed upon by the council, but there is still concern around the
20,000 square foot limit.
It was the consensus of the council to recommend the 7 ,500 square foot maximum for
administrative approvals, reduce the 20,000 square foot limit to 10,000 square feet, and send
this back to the planning commission for formal consideration. The council also agreed to look
at other options after the ordinance is adopted , if the planning commission wanted to continue
to support allowing 20,000 square feet for retail, service, and large item retail uses with
conditions that give the city adequate control through the conditional use permit process.
4. Efficient building program (benchmarking ordinance)
Ms. Jones from the Center for Energy and Environment presented the report. She is working
closely with Shannon Pinc on this process. Ms. Jones explained the program would increase
awareness and encourage energy conservation in larger buildings in the city and be a step
toward achieving the city’s climate action plan (CAP).
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Ms. Jones added St. Louis Park is currently a pilot city, as it relates to the benchmarking
process. Once the policy is passed, the city must inform building owners that benchmarking is
an ordinance in the city.
Ms. Jones stated meetings will be conducted with stakeholders including business owners in
the city, and outreach will be conducted, along with one on one meetings and public meetings .
Afterwards, there will be feedback sessions with the Environmental and Sustainability
Commission and the Planning Commission, before bringing this all back to the council for a
study session.
Councilmember Mavity asked if other communities are currently doing this within Hennepin
County. Ms. Jones stated St. Louis Park is a pilot city and Edina also just passed this measur e.
Also, Minneapolis has been doing this since 2013 and has had a high compliance rate at over
90%.
Councilmember Miller asked if other large companies are on board, such at Target, Home
Depot, and Costco. Ms. Jones stated yes, they generally are.
Councilmember Miller asked what will happen if buildings don’t conform to the ordinance. Mr.
Harmening stated the ordinance will have enforcement remedies and a misdemeanor charge
would be enforced, if needed.
Councilmembers Brausen and Harris stated they are supportive of this initial step.
It was the consensus of the council to support the benchmarking ordinance, and proceed with
the public process, ordinance development, and budgeting for an efficient building program.
The meeting adjourned at 9:30 p.m.
Written Reports provided and documented for recording purposes only:
5. Project update: Louisiana Avenue Bridge replacement – city project 4018-1700
6. Comprehensive plan related zoning map amendments
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Melissa Kennedy, City Clerk Jake Spano, Mayor
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