HomeMy WebLinkAbout2011/02/28 - ADMIN - Minutes - City Council - Study Session /4 St. Louis Park OFFICIAL MINUTES
MINNESOTA CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION
ST. LOUIS PARK, MINNESOTA
FEBRUARY 28, 2011
The meeting convened at 6:30 p.m.
Councilmembers present: Mayor Jeff Jacobs, Phil Finkelstein, Anne Mavity, Paul Omodt, Julia
Ross, Susan Sanger, and Sue Santa.
Councilmembers absent: None.
Staff present: City Manager (Mr. Harmening), Director of Commumty Development (Mr.
Locke), Planning/Zoning Supervisor (Ms. McMonigal), Director of Parks & Recreation (Ms.
Walsh), Fire Chief (Mr. Stemmer), Senior Planner (Mr. Walther), Planner (Mr. Fulton),
Environmental Coordinator (Mr. Vaughan), Communications Coordinator (Mr. Zwilling), and
Recording Secretary(Ms. Hughes).
Guests: Kathy Schoenbauer (Schoenbauer Consulting, LLC), Jeff Schoenbauer (Schoenbauer
Consulting, LLC), Mike Gould (Silver Crest Properties), David Gevers (E. J. Plesko &
Associates), Bob Bistry(HOK Architects), Andy Plesko (E. J. Plesko & Associates), Mike Clark
(DLR Group KKE), and Brian Hook (Kraus-Anderson).
1. Future Study Session Agenda Planning—March 7 & March 14, 2011
Mr. Harmening presented the proposed special study session agenda for March 7th and the
proposed study session agenda for March 14`h. He stated that the special study session on March
7th is intended to be a follow-up discussion regarding Highway 100.
2. Park Summit Apartment Proposal—Project Overview
Mr. Locke presented the staff report and introduced Mr. Mike Gould of Silver Crest Properties.
Mr. Gould stated that he believes the revised plans for the site will tie in well with the Parkshores
Senior Apartments as well as the assisted living building. He then introduced David Gevers (E.
J. Plesko & Associates), Bob Bistry (HOK Architects), Andy Plesko and Sarah Weissman (E. J.
Plesko &Associates).
Mr. Gevers, Director of Development for E. J. Plesko & Associates, provided historical
information regarding E. J. Plesko & Associates, stating that the company specializes in the
development and management of shopping centers, senior housing, and multi-family housing.
He explained that the current site was originally going to be senior condos, but this concept does
not work well in today's market and it is proposed to construct a 12-story market rate rental
building with 192 units. He stated that there is a need for this type of housing for people who do
not want home ownership and who are not ready to move into an independent or assisted living
type of facility.
Mr. Bistry, HOK Architects, presented an architectural rendenng of the site and discussed the
importance of meeting the goals of the community, including making 36th Street a more livable,
walkable community, reinforcing the City's public art commitment, and providing a suburban
natural setting with connectivity to the park and trail system. He also presented draft
architectural drawings of the site and discussed potential building materials and use of
sustainable material. He added that the value of the project is projected to be $30 million. He
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noted that the mix of unit sizes is based on market analysis and the building will include one and
two bedroom units with an average size of 930 square feet.
Mr. Gevers stated that it is anticipated that rental rates will be $1.62 per square foot or
approximately $1,500 per month for a one bedroom unit. He added that the goal is to be smart
about how they approach the design of the exterior and intenor of the building and to use
materials that are both esthetically pleasing and cost effective.
Councilmember Finkelstein stated that the City has invested a lot of money on the 36th Street
streetscape to make this area a premier boulevard in the City. He expressed concern regarding
intensity of pedestrian traffic and encouraged the developer to consider a pedestrian walk light.
Mr. Bistry stated that a traffic study was conducted which suggested installation of a new traffic
signal to improve safety and overall flow in the area.
Councilmember Mavity stated it will be important to make sure the area is safe as well as
pedestrian friendly, and to maintain the walkway from the Rec Center to Target. She also asked
if a shadow study has been done, particularly to make sure people using the rec center are not put
into shadow when using the pool area.
Mr. Locke stated that the developer will be required to do a shadow study as part of their
application.
Councilmember Sanger expressed concern about the lack of green space around this site and
stated that she would prefer to see a building that is taller with a lesser footprint to allow more
green space.
Mayor Jacobs noted that there is a 100-acre park in the area.
Mr. Locke stated that it will be important to achieve the right balance for this site and it is
important to recognize that the Park Commons area was part of the City's 1994 visioning process
which identified this area as the downtown area for St. Louis Park.
Councilmember Santa requested further information regarding available parking and expressed
concern that sufficient parking is not provided in the plans. She also stated that the City has
previously talked about balance and meeting Vision goals as it relates to owner-occupied
housing and rental housing. She questioned how a shift to rental meets that Vision goal and
requested that the City remain aware of the proportion of owner-occupied housing to rental
housing.
Mr. Gevers stated that the parking plans provide one car per bedroom with a 10% reduction,
noting that the original entitlement had a 15%reduction as part of the entire PUD.
Ms. McMonigal stated that staff has not yet gotten to the final analysis on parking and the
concern expressed by Councilmember Santa was noted.
Councilmember Finkelstein expressed support for the project, noting that this plan follows a
continuum of care with the senior apartments and assisted living facility in close proximity.
Councilmembers Ross and Omodt also expressed support for the project.
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3. Community Recreation Survey Results
Mr. Harmening presented the staff report.
Ms. Walsh introduced Kathy Schoenbauer and Jeff Schoenbauer of Schoenbauer Consulting,
LLC.
Ms. Schoenbauer provided a summary of the key results of the survey and indicated that the
survey was administered online and via paper with 1,055 residents responding, representing an
approximate 5% response rate. She stated that all neighborhoods were represented in the survey
and nearly three-quarters of respondents were aged 35-54 and over half of respondents had
children ages 6-12 years.
Councilmember Mavity asked how the response data compares to the City's overall population
in terms of who responded the survey.
Ms. Walsh agreed to provide this information to Council.
Ms. Schoenbauer advised that 89.9% of respondents agreed that public parks and recreation are
important and 72.3% of respondents agreed that the City is doing a good job. She stated that
respondents felt it was most important for the City to add trails, an indoor recreation space,
indoor swimming pool, and natural open spaces. She indicated that 144 respondents added
write-in ideas for other recreation facilities, with 43% indicating a preference for an outdoor ice
rink and 12% indicating a preference for a multi-use indoor facility. She discussed the responses
regarding limitations on use and participation, with lack of time cited as the primary reason for
not using public parks or participating in recreational activities. She stated that 461 respondents
provided comments on what is missing with the top themes being an indoor park with play and
fitness areas and north/south trail connections. She indicated that some residents also
commented about the need to update the rec center. She reviewed the responses with respect to
pnorities by age group, and the greatest need was found in the 13-17 year old age group,
followed by those in the 6-12 year old age group. She then reviewed responses regarding public
gathering places and resident's willingness to pay additional user fees, noting that 86.8% of
respondents were willing to pay more per month in user fees and most respondents indicated a
preference for user fees over taxes. She added that 228 residents provided additional comments
with many residents stating that St. Louis Park is a great community and to keep up the good
work. She suggested that the indoor park and recreation facility theme be explored further in a
phone survey as a way of testing some ideas with residents.
Councilmember Ross stated that Council previously discussed ways of reaching the immigrant
populations and people of color in conducting the survey and questioned whether some of the
survey results would be different if this demographic scored higher in the survey results,
particularly as it relates to gathering spaces.
Councilmember Sanger commented that we should look at functions rather than facilities right
now as we plan for the future. She also requested that Council discuss current obstacles or
barriers as it relates to resident complaints on how to get to facilities without driving and what
kind of systems could be put in place to help out.
Councilmember Finkelstein requested that the survey data be broken down by neighborhood as it
relates to the one thing respondents would change about the City's park and recreation facilities.
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Councilmember Santa stated that the comments regarding an updated rec center indicate that this
facility is important and has a presence in the community. She requested that the Council further
discuss what that means and how the City can enhance what it already has.
4. Fire Stations Project Update
Mr. Walther presented the staff report and introduced Brian Hook from Kraus-Anderson and
Mike Clark,project manager, DLR Group KKE.
Mr. Hook presented the estimated overall project costs, noting that the total project cost is
currently $45,000 below budget and they are confident with the numbers contained in the
construction document estimate. He stated that Council will be asked to approve the plans and
specifications and authorize advertising for bids at its meeting on March 7th, with bid opening on
March 29`x'.
It was the consensus of the City Council to proceed into the Bidding Phase.
Mr. Clark presented a concept sketch of Fire Station No. 1 and stated that the site plan has been
modified slightly resulting in less pavement and less retaining wall, saving approximately
$25,000 and incorporating more green space on the site. He then reviewed the Fire Station No. 2
site plan. Mr. Walther stated that staff has been working with Walgreens to negotiate a new
easement, resulting in a new easement that would shift ten of the parking stalls in Northside Park
to the south side of Fire Station No. 2; this easement would allow City employees to access
Northside Park through the Walgreens property.
Councilmember Ross expressed concern about the width of the existing entrance off Louisiana
Avenue and asked if there was any way to make the driveway wider.
Mr. Walther replied that the driveway is currently the standard 25' width and agreed to review
this further.
Councilmember Sanger requested further information regarding how the public will enter and
exit Northside Park and how the City will make sure that the public is not using the access
reserved for maintenance vehicles.
Mr. Walther stated that the access point for most users will be Nevada Avenue and there is some
on-street parking on Louisiana Avenue. He added that it will be Walgreens' responsibility to
maintain the easement areas and if they want to limit parking, they have the option of posting
signs. He added that on the north side of the site, there is existing stormwater drainage and catch
basins and the City wanted to avoid having to change the current underground stormwater
drainage system and this proposal allows the City to facilitate a quick and easy solution with
Walgreens.
Councilmember Ross expressed concern that vehicles using the parking spaces on the south side
of the building will be required to back out into traffic.
It was the consensus of the City Council that the proposed terms for a replacement easement with
Walgreens/Little Caesars to accommodate the Fire Station No. 2 plans are acceptable.
Mr. Clark then presented interior design concept sketches for Fire Station No. 1.
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Councilmember Mavity requested an update regarding the plans for tree replacement.
Mr. Walther stated that the required amount of caliper inches could not be reached due to space
constraints on the site, but more trees were added to the landscaping plan and the amount being
paid into the tree replacement fund has been reduced to approximately$20,000.
Mr. Stemmer stated that throughout the development design phase there has been a lot of give
and take in the area of equipment and furnishings. He requested that the Council consider
approving some of the equipment and/or furnishings that were left out of the project if the bids
come in below budget. He also expressed the Fire Department's thanks to the City Council for
its support of this project.
5. Deer Update
Mr. Harmening presented the staff report and advised that a number of calls have been received
from residents in the Lake Forest area regarding large numbers of deer congregating in back
yards. He noted that the City will be conducting its annual deer thinning process at the Nature
Center this week and Golden Valley will be undergoing a deer thinning process in the Theodore
Wirth Park area.
Councilmember Sanger introduced Ms. Marilyn Rohlfing who lives at 26th and Glenhurst has
been experiencing a significant number of deer in her back yard. Councilmember Sanger stated
that this year the deer problem in the community has been worse and she encouraged Council to
become familiar with the City's historical management of the deer population.
Ms. Rohlfing indicated that this issue has been an emotional issue in the past and became a very
polarized issue within the community. She felt that any action by Council would include the
same level of opposition as was seen in the past. She noted that any action would need to be
taken before April 1st, which may be administratively difficult, but asked that Council fully
understand the issue before taking action. She also asked Council to consider whether changes
need to be made to the existing ordinance consistent with other surrounding communities as it
relates to management of the deer population.
Mr. Vaughan indicated that all of the surrounding communities, except Minneapolis, conduct an
annual harvest which helps the City in trying to control the deer population. Minneapolis does
not do any deer control which does not help the Lake Forest/Fern Hill area deer population.
Ms. Walsh discussed the process for management of deer and stated that the Department of
Natural Resources (DNR) issues permits based on data from the annual aerial deer survey.
Mr. Vaughan stated that permits are typically issued for varying amounts with the typical
threshold used being 10-15 deer per habitat square mile. However, the City could request a
permit for 7-8 deer or even 3-5 deer per habitat square mile since the threshold numbers are
based upon rural habitats, not urban(which are less forested and more fragmented).
Mr. Harmening advised that the City conducts removal in the Nature Center as part of an
administrative function based upon flyover data; the City can also perform removal in other areas
of the City on public property following some form of public notification.
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It was the consensus of the City Council that the current deer population in the City is more than
the habitat can sustain.
Councilmember Finkelstein stated that it did not appear that anything could realistically be done
before the April 1st deadline and suggested that staff be given an opportunity to come up with a
plan for Council consideration.
Councilmember Ross agreed and stated that Council should set a policy whereby the population
numbers are reviewed every year and when the population exceeds a certain number, the City's
policy outlines the process for thinning the herd without requiring a public hearing every year.
Mr. Harmening stated that the DNR rules and permit requirements do not require a public
hearing. He advised that since 1993, the Council policy states that the City will do a harvest
after it notifies people,but does not state that a public hearing will be held.
Councilmember Mavity stated that she appreciates the problems the deer population is causing
and added that she wants to make sure Council has adequate background information on the
issue before moving forward. She expressed support for establishing a policy so that Council
does not have to revisit the issue in the future and added that it will be important to allow people
to have their say on the matter.
Councilmember Santa stated that she was not opposed to a public hearing, but her experience
with the issue is that the City was caught in the middle with people coming down strongly and
emotionally on both sides, which caused a great deal of dissension in neighborhoods.
Councilmember Ross noted that management of the population comes down to a public safety
issue.
Ms. Marilyn Rohlfing appeared before the City Council and stated that since 1997, there has
been a change in what is known about deer, most notably the statistics related to deer ticks and
Lyme disease, which represents a public health issue.
It was the consensus of the City Council to direct staff to prepare amendments to the deer
management policy for Council approval and to apply for a DNR permit when the flyover
information becomes available next January.
Councilmember Finkelstein pointed out that Council is not opposed to a public hearing on this
issue; rather, Council prefers that its agendas include hearings that deal with issues where public
input is vital in terms of making a decision.
Councilmember Sanger suggested that the policy consider the deer tick and Lyme disease issue
as well. She added that one of the reasons the City has a deer problem is that residents feed
them, which is illegal. She asked that staff provide some reinforcing communication about this
to residents.
Councilmember Finkelstein requested that the illegal feeding of deer be emphasized in the policy
as well.
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6. Telecommunications Advisory Commission 2010 Annual Report& 2011 Work Plan
Mr. Harmening presented the staff report.
Councilmember Finkelstein stated that the Telecommunications Advisory Commission is doing
great work.
Councilmember Santa requested more detail regarding fiber optic opportunities and the
Commission's long term plans in this area.
Mr. Harmening noted that a task force has been formed to help with a long term plan related to
fiber optics.
Councilmember Mavity requested that the City provide the new and youth commissioners with
sufficient ongoing support to make sure they understand the issues they are dealing with.
It was the consensus of the City Council that no meeting is required with the
Telecommunications Advisory Commission to discuss the annual report.
7. Housing Authority 2010 Annual Report& 2011 Work Plan
Mr. Harmening presented the staff report.
Councilmember Sanger expressed concern regarding the Sec. 8 vouchers being pulled out of
Wayside House.
Councilmember Mavity requested further information regarding the Sec. 8 vouchers and agreed
that this puts the entire project at risk.
It was the consensus of the City Council that no.meeting is required with the Housing Authority
to discuss the annual report.
8. Planning Commission 2010 Annual Report& 2011 Work Plan
Mr. Harmening presented the staff report.
Council discussed the need to retain a separate Board of Zoning Appeals or whether this could be
rolled into the Planning Commission.
Councilmember Mavity stated that 'the joint meeting held last year with the Planning
Commission was informative, but felt that it did not allow for Council and the Planning
Commission to jointly discuss some of the issues facing the City. She requested that Council
offer another joint meeting to the Planning Commission to provide an opportunity to discuss
specific questions about the Comprehensive Plan.
Councilmember Finkelstein suggested inviting the Planning Commission and Board of Zoning
Appeals to a joint meeting after the legislative session adjourns.
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9. Communications/Meeting Check-in (Verbal)
Councilmember Mavity requested that the monthly financial reports include a brief narrative that
compares revenues and expenditures year to year.
Councilmember Sanger stated that the City has had its first coyote attack of a small dog. She
requested that the deer management policy be amended to reflect an overall wildlife management
policy.
Mr. Harmening reported that the Mayor Lampi of Brooklyn Park recently died and suggested
that the City send a memorial to the family. It was the consensus of the City Council to direct
staff to send a memorial from the City of St. Louis Park to the Lampi family and community of
Brooklyn Park.
Mr. Harmening discussed the outstanding property maintenance issues and police calls received
at 8400 Minnetonka Boulevard.
Councilmember Santa stated that she heard that the property owner has not completed the repairs
and some residents have indicated that some of the ongoing maintenance issues have been
sliding.
Mr. Harmening provided a brief report on the Lakeland Inn property and stated that the City has
received some help from the County Attorney's office on this matter.
The meeting adjourned at 9:25 p.m.
Written Reports provided and documented for recording purposes only:
10. January 2011 Monthly Financial Rep s rt
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