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MINNESOTA CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION
ST. LOUIS PARK, MINNESOTA
NOVEMBER 28,2011
The meeting convened at 7:20 p.m.
Councilmembers present: Mayor Jeff Jacobs, Phil Finkelstein, Anne Mavity, Julia Ross, Susan
Sanger, and Sue Santa.
Councilmembers absent: Paul Omodt.
Staff present: City Manager (Mr. Harmening), Deputy City Manager/Director of Human
Resources (Ms. Deno), Controller (Mr. Swanson), Finance Supervisor (Mr. Heintz), Director of
Community Development (Mr. Locke), Planning/Zoning Supervisor (Ms. McMonigal),
Economic Development Coordinator (Mr. Hunt), Director of Parks and Recreation (Ms. Walsh),
Communications Coordinator (Mr. Zwilling), Organizational Development Coordinator (Ms.
Gothberg), Chief Information Officer (Mr. Pires), Civic TV Coordinator (Mr. Dunlap), and
Recording Secretary(Ms. Hughes).
Guest: Stacie Kvilvang(Ehlers &Associates).
1. Future Study Session Agenda Planning—December 12, 2011
Mr. Harmening presented the proposed study session agenda for December 12th.
Councilmember Mavity requested that more time be allotted for the discussion regarding the
Cedar Lake Regional Trail crossings.
Councilmember Sanger asked if Mn/DOT representatives have been confirmed for December
12th because there are a number of residents who want to attend the meeting.
Mr. Harmening replied that a representative from Mn/DOT has been confirmed for the
December 12th meeting.
2. Eliot School Redevelopment- Update
Mr. Locke presented the staff report and advised that the developer is proposing a 144-unit
market rate, multi-family development on the site. He stated that given current market
conditions, a multi-family residential rental development is the most realistic type of project for
the site. He noted that the proposed density is higher than envisioned in the design guidelines.
Councilmember Ross indicated that when the listening sessions were held, concerns were
expressed from residents about rentals on this site and a desire to not see the property developed
for rental. She acknowledged the current real estate market and agreed that rental was probably
the best use of the site. She asked if the rental units could be converted at some point in the
future to condominiums or townhomes for sale.
Mr. Locke agreed that possibility could be explored.
Councilmember Mavity suggested the site could include a mix of rentals and owner occupied
housing.
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Councilmember Santa agreed with Councilmember Ross and stated she did not see how
converting the rental units to condominiums would be possible given the increased density. She
stated that comments received at the listening sessions were clear that residents wanted to see
home ownership and if that is not possible now, she urged the developer to construct the site so
that the rentals could be easily converted when the market turns around. She requested further
information regarding the proposed rents of"20% less than recent upper-end apartments."
Mr. Locke explained that the development proposes market rate rentals with the goal of the
project to have more affordable housing compared to the upper-end apartments at the Ellipse.
Councilmember Sanger acknowledged the need for rental units on the site and agreed that some
or the entire site should be constructed for conversion at a later date. She expressed concern that
developers appear to be focusing on relatively small one-bedroom units which will attract only
single people without children. She requested information regarding the land valuation for
purposes of the sale as it relates to TIF financing and indicated that the property should be valued
at its current zoning. She referenced the sale of land in Brookside which she felt was over-
valued at the time of sale, resulting in the School District receiving more cash and the City
subsidizing the project by providing more TIF money than necessary. She indicated she would
not vote for that kind of financing.
Councilmember Finkelstein stated that when the City dealt with the Brookside property, there
was a strong desire among Council for large single family homes and anytime these types of
dictates are added, it has financial implications. He felt that the proposed rental development
made sense and noted that if some of the units are going to be converted to condominiums, it will
likely mean increased TIF financing. He agreed with Councilmember Sanger's concern
regarding the amount of one-bedroom units in the community and encouraged the developer to
remember there will be a large park in the area and the site has great bus access.
Councilmember Ross stated she has heard from senior constituents that there are not a lot of
rentals available to them because the newer developments are geared toward younger, single
residents. She encouraged the developer to consider units that cater to seniors or people with
disabilities.
Councilmember Mavity indicated she did not have a problem with 144 units versus 129, but was
concerned that the increased density will mean that the units are smaller in size. She stated that
Council has previously talked about areas in the City where poverty is concentrated and this site
provides an opportunity to include some scattered subsidized units which could be a good fit.
She encouraged the City to find ways to subsidize the rentals and look at capital subsidies to
make the units affordable in the long term.
3. Community Recreation Facility Tour Recap
Ms. Walsh presented the staff report and policy questions for Council consideration.
Councilmember Ross stated that she liked the theater, conference and party rooms, coffee shop,
senior facility, day care facility, and free walking track at Chaska. She indicated she also liked
that the Chaska facility provided open basketball courts for use by members.
Councilmember Mavity noted that the three facilities are sprawling and the City does not have
significant acreage to build a facility of this size. She questioned whether the City could have a
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facility without that sprawl and make use of its current spaces, including Lenox and the Rec
Center. She stated the City wants to serve all areas of the community and asked what the City
would gain and lose by spreading out pieces of these functions. She stated it will be important to
work in concert with the School District to avoid overlapping uses. She felt that the task force
should include someone from the schools and suggested that the task force include someone
from the Human Rights Commission to make sure all areas of the City are engaged in the
process.
Councilmember Finkelstein encouraged Council to consider how the City will pay for a facility
initially and on an ongoing basis. He also encouraged Council to consider how a new facility
might duplicate what the City already has and how the City can create a facility somewhere in
between. He felt that the task force should include people with financial backgrounds. He
reminded Council that the City is currently paying for the new MSC facility and two new fire
stations; in addition, Council approved a plan to spend $15-20 million on expanded sidewalks
and trails.
Councilmember Sanger stated that she liked the free walking track, fitness facilities, waterpark
and pools, child care facility, coffee shop, and the areas for people to gather, adding that the idea
for a community recreation facility started as a need for a gathenng place in the City. She
indicated she liked the senior facility at Chaska because it provided a separate place that
integrated into the larger community center. She noted that the Chaska facility has a high
percentage of their population as members, which she would like to see emulated in St. Louis
Park. She stated that a new facility will not be totally self-sustaining and encouraged the City to
look carefully at funding models and to what extent the facility will be subsidized. She indicated
she would like to have one facility that is accessible by bus. She suggested that the task force
include people with firsthand experience running or building these types of facilities.
Councilmember Santa stated she would like to see some youth representatives on the task force
in addition to representatives of the youth athletic associations. She indicated she liked the
synergy of having all activities under one roof. She stated she did not like the structure of the
public/private partnership in Plymouth. She stated it will be important to consider what baby
boomers want and this process will provide an opportunity to reexamine what an active older
adult is looking for. She added that she wanted to see a lot of meeting rooms where
neighborhood groups like the Girl Scouts or Boy Scouts can meet.
Mayor Jacobs stated he liked the indoor domed turf facility at Plymouth. He stated he liked the
location of the Eden Prairie facility because kids could walk there from school. He noted that he
does not want the facility to be a teen hangout and wanted to see an eclectic mix of people. He
indicated he would like to see the facility in a central location, near the bus line and within
walking or biking distance of the high school, and noted that the City's demographics will
require a different type of facility than Chaska or Eden Prairie. He shared Councilmember
Finkelstein's concerns about how to pay for a new facility while giving life to what residents say
they want.
It was the consensus of the City Council to direct staff to move ahead with the formation of a
task force.
Mr. Harmemng agreed to provide Council with further information regarding the role of the task
force and composition of the task force for approval by Council.
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4. Tax Increment District Management Review
Mr. Swanson presented the staff report and introduced Stacie Kvilvang from Ehlers &
Associates.
Ms. Kvilvang provided an overview of the City's TIF Districts, tax capacity captured by TIF, the
City's increase in tax base, current TIF obligations, the City's Construction Assistance Program,
forecast of issues, and recommendations. She explained that the Highway 7 TIF District will
decertify in 2011 and the Excelsior Boulevard HSTI District will decertify in 2012. She noted
that approximately $326,000 will be redistributed to the City following decertification of the
Excelsior Boulevard HSTI District. She discussed the City's pay as you go obligations and
existing bonds and noted that over 50% of the City's TIF Districts are being paid off before term.
She also discussed the Market Value Homestead Credit (MVHC) exclusion and stated that an
updated analysis will be prepared regarding the MVHC exclusion and its impact on existing
obligations and amounts available for other projects. She recommended that a pooling analysis
be completed for all existing districts to determine how much will be available for use by the
City. She discussed the City's use of TIF Districts with ongoing cash balances, the five year rule
related to new projects, and the importance of monitoring obligations to make sure that
increment available for pooling is utilized. She stated that all of the City's TIF Districts are in
good financial health, the City has opportunities available to utilize the success of its TIF
Districts, and the City has dollars available to augment its housing needs and redevelopment
efforts.
Councilmember Sanger asked if any excess funds can be used to provide funds for the Highway
7/Louisiana Avenue interchange.
Mr. Hunt explained that while the report shows a cash balance in the Elmwood TIF district of
approximately$3.6 million, these funds have been obligated in the City's CIP.
Ms. Kvilvang added that excess funds can be used within reason for the Highway 7/Louisiana
Avenue interchange project depending on how it is tied to the project. She stated that they will
review this based on Council priorities.
Mr. Swanson indicated that the Housing Rehab Fund needs additional resources and staff is
looking at what funds might be available and how best to apply those resources.
5. Future of Cable TV Task Force Findings
Mr. Zwilling presented the staff report and policy questions for Council consideration. He
discussed the assumptions contained indthe report about the future of video services and the study
undertaken by the Telecommunications Advisory Commission task force.
Councilmember Ross indicated that the trends indicate St. Louis Park is an aging community and
also has an increasing immigrant population. She noted that 64% of adults aged 65 and older are
dependent on this form of media and asked how video services for this population will change in
the future and how the City will balance the need for technology with more traditional forms of
media.
Mr. Zwilling stated that the City's 65 and older groups will continue to be served by traditional
broadcast and cablecast services.
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Councilmember Finkelstein stated he felt that the number of people declining use of Cable TV
will continue to accelerate, citing a recent article that indicated one-third of people under age 30
do not use cable and get all their information on the computer. He indicated that the City cannot
rely on its franchise fees as a funding source and will need to work on finding other ways to
utilize its Cable TV channels. He suggested partnering with the CVB and/or the School District
on one of its channels.
Councilmember Mavity stated that it will be important to consider what the City needs in terms
of Cable TV infrastructure and services, including wi fi, to make sure the City continues to be an
attractive place for businesses and residents.
Mr. Zwilling noted that the contract for a fiber study was recently approved and the study will be
completed in the spring.
Councilmember Sanger stated she felt it was critical that the City continue broadcasting City
meetings and City programs and to maintain the availability of all City channels to the
community.
Councilmember Santa stated that fiber has the potential to be an income generator for the City
and encouraged the City to pay attention to this. She felt it was important to remember that a
number of residents have no relationship with Comcast and are not able to access the City's
video services through Cable TV and to consider how the City will offer video services to those
residents.
It was the consensus of the City Council that the City should remain competitive in terms of
video services, fiber optic, and other technology because it makes the overall community
competitive in terms of attracting residents and businesses.
It was also the consensus of the City Council to retain video services as a key communications
tool in the future, especially after January 2021 when the current franchise expires, and to work
annually on the Cable TV Fund to find other revenue sources to pay for continued video
services.
Councilmember Ross agreed it will be important for the City to remain competitive but felt the
City should also work to get ahead of trends so that St. Louis Park is considered a community in
the forefront of technology.
Councilmember Sanger stated it will also be important not to lose sight of those residents who
are less tech savvy and to find ways of communicating with them.
6. City Council Workshop—January 20-21,2012
Ms. Gothberg presented the staff report and requested feedback from Council on topics for
discussion at the workshop in January. She added that a draft agenda will be presented to
Council in the near future.
Councilmember Santa advised that she may not be able to attend the session on Friday evening
and definitely would not be on time.
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Mr. Harmening agreed to send a survey to Council requesting input on the workshop agenda and
proposed topics for discussion. He noted that the two new Councilmembers will attend the
workshop as well.
7. Communications/Meeting Check-In (Verbal)
Mr. Harmening advised that Mr. Locke was contacted by a representative of LA Fitness
indicating that LA Fitness has acquired a number of Bally's properties around the country
including the St. Louis Park facility. He stated that a real estate representative for LA Fitness
contacted the City about the Bally's property in St. Louis Park and redevelopment opportunities
on this site, including the City's adjacent parcel.
Mr. Harmening stated that Giveback Day is Saturday, December 3`d, at Park Tavern.
The meeting adjourned at 9:26 p.m.
Written Reports provided and documented for recording purposes only:
8. October 2011 Monthly Financial Report
9. Charter Amendment for Civil Penalties
10. Cavalia Summary Report
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Nancy Stroth, City Clerk Mayor