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MINNESOTA CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION
November 24, 2008
The meeting convened at 6:20 p.m.
Councilmembers present: Mayor Jeff Jacobs, John Basill, C. Paul Carver, Phil Finkelstein, Paul
Omodt, Loran Paprocki, and Sue Sanger.
Councilmembers absent: None.
Staff present: City Manager (Mr. Harmening), City Engineer (Mr. Brink), Chief Information Officer
(Mr. Pires), Director of Parks & Recreation(Ms. Walsh), Director of Public Works (Mr. Rardin),
Finance Director (Mr. DeJong) and Recording Secretary (Ms. Larrea).
Guest: None.
1. Future Study Session Agenda Planning— December 1 and December 8, 2008
Mr. Harmening presented the staff report. On December 1 the agenda includes a discussion on
Open Meeting Law, Commissioner Code of Ethics and Community Residential Facility Licensing.
Mr. Harmening noted that staff is trying to set up a meeting with the City Council and the School
Board. He questioned if the Council would be interested in meeting at 5:00 p.m. on December 8
prior to the study session. Councilmember Sanger asked what the meeting is regarding. Mr.
Harmening responded that one of the topics would be the budget. Councilmember Basill noted
that he is in favor of meeting with the School Board.
Councilmember Paprocki asked if there was an urgency to schedule a meeting with the School
Board. Councilmember Finkelstein noted that he would like to have an agenda in place before they
meet with the School Board. He also noted that he would not be able to make it to the meeting by
5:00 p.m. Councilmember Sanger would like an update from the School Board regarding the
possible closing of a school site.
It was the consensus of the Council to move forward with the meeting with the School Board with
the understanding the Mayor and City Manager would meet with the School Board Chair and
Superintendent to set the agenda.
2. TH 7 &Wooddale Avenue Design, Schedule, and Financing
Mr. Brink presented to the Council regarding the current status of project design, financing and
project schedule of TH 7 and Wooddale Avenue.
Councilmember Sanger questioned if it would be possible to have vegetation and a noise wall at this
location. Mr. Brink responded that staff is looking at both of those options.
Councilmember Basill noted that regardless of whether they use vegetation or a noise wall, there will
be less of a noise issue because of the improvements that are being made.
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Councilmember Sanger felt that the noise walls should be left in the plan at this point with the
option of being taken out later.
Mr. Brink noted that the noise walls are estimated to cost between a half million dollars to a million
dollars. He also confirmed that the changes being made will take care of some of the noise.
Mr. Brink noted that staff has been working with the school in the area. Staff would like to improve
the routes to the school.
Councilmember Sanger noted that there are concerns from the Sorenson neighborhood regarding
how they will be able to cross Wooddale to get to the school.
Mr. Brink clarified that the reason for not having traffic lights at this intersection is that the
intersection doesn't meet any of the warrants by Mn/DOT.
Councilmember Basill noted that there is always the possibility of installing a stop light in the future.
Councilmember Paprocki noted that it would be nice to have a pedestrian school crossing.
Mr. Rardin noted that the design is set up so that things can be added at a later time.
Councilmember Finkelstein noted that this could be a light rail stop in a few years and agreed that it
may be more beneficial to reevaluate in the future rather than add things now.
Mayor Jacobs questioned if there was going to be enough room for a designated right turn lane. Mr.
Rardin confirmed that there would be. Councilmember Omodt noted that it would be possible to
put crossing guards out on the street to help kids crossing to the school. He agreed that it would be
easier to add things at a later date.
Councilmember Sanger noted that the issues with children getting to the school during the
construction should be discussed with the School Board when the Council meets with them.
Councilmember Sanger asked that they talk about the timing of the construction. Mr. Brink noted
that they would like to start in the spring. He noted that Excelsior Boulevard from Dakota to
Louisiana is scheduled to start in 2010. Staff is hoping that the projects will not overlap.
Councilmember Sanger questioned if Wooddale is going to be shut down for additional winter
months.
Councilmember Finkelstein noted that the federal funding is only good through a certain date and
the longer the City waits on this project the less federal funding the City will receive.
Councilmember Sanger was concerned about the current economic situation and that some of the
funding is dependant on a TIF district. Mr. Harmening responded that he did not have an answer
to that question at this time.
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Councilmember Carver suggested looking at other projects that are close to being "shovel ready" and
have them prepared to a point where the projects would be eligible for economic stimulus in the
upcoming year.
It was the consensus of the Council to further discuss this matter at a future meeting.
3. 2009 Budget and Levy, Capital Improvement Plan (CIP) and Financial Management
Plan (FMP)
Mr. Harmening presented the staff report to the Council. Staff is requesting consensus to move
forward with presented amounts for Truth-in-Taxation (TNT) purposes. Based on the feedback
from the Council, staff will prepare the presentation for the TNT hearing on December 1.
Councilmember Basill stated that he was fine with the eliminating proactive sidewalk snow removal
inspections and enforcement. He would like to continue to publicize the ordinance.
Mr. Harmening questioned if Council members received any feedback regarding the Truth-in-
Taxation mailing that went out. There was not any significant response seen or heard by the
Council members.
Councilmember Sanger noted there was a proposal in the budget document for saving $2,000 by
turning off the flashing traffic light on Lake Street. This issue has been raised in the past and the
neighborhood has felt strongly that this stop light should not be removed. She noted that she would
not like to again discuss this item at length.
Mr. Rardin said that he is suggesting putting up a stop sign at this intersection. He felt that from an
environmental standpoint, this would save electricity. He noted that the City spends about $2,000
per year in electricity and this does not include maintenance.
Councilmember Finkelstein indicated he remembered the last time this was brought up to the
Council and the neighborhood was very passionate that they did not want a stop sign in the area.
Councilmember Carver noted that it is important to listen to the staff member's opinions on these
issues.
Councilmember Sanger noted that she would like to embark on a process to get the citizens involved
in the process in general. She would like to see if the public has suggestions for how the City could
save money. She would also like Councilmembers to come up with ideas.
Councilmember Paprocki noted that this was discussed at a prior study session when
Councilmember Sanger was absent. He has suggested that the directors of the departments create a
list of items that they feel could be cut from their budget so the Councilmembers can discuss the
items.
Councilmember Sanger asked for a response on her suggestion to go to the City for feedback on the
budget. Councilmember Finkelstein noted that he would like this issue included at the winter retreat
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because he would like some more time to think it over. Mayor Jacobs agreed that this should be
discussed at length and that residents should be involved in the discussion. Councilmember Sanger
would like to get specific feedback from residents so the Council can get some more thoughtful
ideas.
Councilmember Omodt noted that staff could look to see if this has worked in other cities. He
would like more information before he makes a decision whether he would like to move forward.
He would like a model that they could look at more closely.
Councilmember Finkelstein questioned if the WiFi money would go back into the enterprise fund.
Mr. Harmening confirmed that it would.
Councilmember Carver liked the idea of finding out from the department heads if they had to cut 5
%, what would be cut, which could be discussed at the retreat. He is more hesitant to ask the
residents what should be cut because the department heads will know their budget better than
anyone else. He is not against the idea but is hesitant about it.
Mayor Jacobs noted that this is also a good opportunity to explain to the public why some programs
are necessary.
Councilmember Paprocki noted the City should be evaluating the budget every 4-5 years, not just
when it is necessary.
Mr. Harmening felt that bringing up the budget at the winter retreat would be perfect timing. He
would like to look more deeply at how the City does business and what could be done differently.
Mr. Harmening suggested that as a first step it may be more appropriate for the Council to prioritize
the services and programs the city provides and then ask staff to offer proposal on the allocation of
resources based on those priorities rather than looking at across the board cuts
Mr. Dejong presented to the Council regarding the Capital Improvement Plan (CIP). The draft
CIP shows a total of$108,941,237 in planned investment in the community's assets over the next
five years.
Mr. Pires presented to the Council regarding ideas for technology related capital improvements
within the City.
Councilmember Finkelstein questioned how much the City is spending on technology now versus 5
years ago. Mr. Pires was not able to answer the question at this time but noted there have been
rather large capital improvements in the last five years.
Councilmember Sanger questioned what the City is doing to review their records retention. Mr.
Pires responded that staff is working with a consultant in order to evaluate how best to measure
storage needs. It is going to take some time to analyze what staff is storing and how often these files
are being accessed. There is also the issue of the duplication of files.
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Ms. Walsh presented to Council regarding capital improvements related to the Parks and Recreation
Department.
Councilmember Sanger questioned whether the new dog park should be designated as a small dog
park. She noted that this might help to spread out the use of dog parks. Ms. Walsh will be
completing some more public process on the dog parks and bring back more information at a future
meeting.
Councilmember Basill would like staff to look at putting mats in the restrooms at the Rec Center for
access while wearing ice skates. The old bathrooms are hard to access with skates and the new
bathrooms can not be accessed because of tiles.
Mr. Rardin presented to the Council regarding public works projects in the CIP. Mr. Rardin
questioned the Council regarding a whistle quiet zone. He wanted to know if they felt there was a
value to spend the money on this in 2009. Councilmember Sanger noted that she would like to wait
on the whistle quiet zone because of the LRT, which would only push it back two years. The other
Council members were in agreement.
Communications (Verbal)
Mr. Harmening noted there will be boy scouts at City Council meeting next week.
Mr. Harmening informed the Council that there will be a League of Minnesota meeting in February
2009. There is more information available if any Council members are interested in attending.
Mr. Harmening noted that Clear Channel has agreed to take down the billboards on the SPS
property by the end of 2008.
Mr. Harmening updated the Council that Pawn America responded to the letter sent to them by the
City.
Mr. Harmening noted that Tom Peterson has requested to be seen before the City Council to
express some concerns.
The meeting adjourned at 10:10 p.m.
Written Reports provided and documented for recording purposes only:
4. October 2008 Monthly Financial Report
5. Update on Energy Analysis of City Facilities
6. Need for Public Utility Easement for Ellipse onelsior Project
Nancy Stroth, City Clerk Jeff Jac• •s,a or