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ST. LOUIS
PARK CITY COUNCIL MEETING
ST. LOUIS PARK,MINNESOTA
October 10, 2005
1. Call to Order
Mayor Jacobs called the meeting to order at 7:30 pm.
Council members present: Mayor Jeff Jacobs, John Basill, Jim Brimeyer, Phil Finkelstein, Paul
Omodt, Susan Sanger and Sue Santa
Staff present: Assistant City Clerk(Ms. Stroth), Associate Planner(Mr. Fulton), City Manager
(Mr. Harmening), City Attorney(Mr. Jamnik), Community Development Director(Mr. Locke),
Director of Inspections (Mr. Hoffman), Director of Parks &Rec. (Ms. Walsh), Director of
Technology and Support Services (Mr. Pires), Finance Director(Ms. McGann), Human
Resources Director(Ms. Gohman), Fire Chief(Mr. Stemmer), Public Works Coordinator(Mr.
Merkley), Public Works Director(Mr. Rardin), Planning/Zoning Supervisor(Ms. McMonigal),
and Recording Secretary(Ms. Stegora-Peterson).
2. Presentations
2a. Resolution Recognizing Minnehaha Creek Watershed District Task Force Members
Mayor Jacobs presented a resolution recognizing members of the Minnehaha Creek
Watershed District Task Force and thanked them for their work.
Councilmember Santa commented on the amount of time the task force spent on the task
force and believes they have done a great job.
3. Approval of Minutes
3a. City Council Minutes of September 19, 2005
Councilmember Sanger indicated on page ten, "Dey" should be"Day".
Councilmember Basill stated on page eight (item 8d), the final paragraph before the
motion should be"clarified what the Council was..."
The minutes were approved as corrected.
3b. Study Session Minutes of August 8, 2005
Councilmember Basill indicated on page one(item 1), paragraph five, should read"above
grade crossing".
Councilmember Sanger stated on page three (item 4), after the fourth paragraph insert,
"Councilmember's also expressed concerns and disagreements with US Bank's request
that the City promise not to foreclose prior to 2015."
The minutes were approved as corrected.
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3c. Study Session Minutes of August 22, 2005
The minutes were approved as presented.
3d. Study Session Minutes of September 12, 2005
Councilmember Basil indicated on page one,paragraph four, "if' should be replaced with
"can". On page three (item 3),paragraph four, insert"be" after"...site would"in the
first sentence.
Councilmember Sanger indicated on page two, at the end of the sentence in the second
paragraph, "especially for recreational usage" should be inserted. On page five, in the
first paragraph, insert"and"after"if they had bigger units". In the 12`''paragraph delete,
"believed smaller units may attract seniors." She didn't believe she said that.
Mayor Jacobs indicated on page five, paragraph nine, replace"cultural"with"age".
Councilmember Finkelstein indicated on page three, third paragraph of item 3, insert
"been" after"had not".
The minutes were approved as corrected.
3e. Study Session Minutes of September 19, 2005
Councilmember Sanger indicated on page one, paragraph four, insert"temporary"before
"dog park". On page two, third paragraph from the bottom, replace "decide"with"review".
Mayor Jacobs noted on page two, fourth paragraph from the end,replace"Major"with"Mayor".
The minutes were approved as corrected.
3f. Study Session Minutes of September 26, 2005
Councilmember Sanger indicated on page two, insert at the end of item one,
"Commissioner Carpenter suggested that staff research and identify the lots that could be
impacted by this proposal and bring back that information for further review. Staff
agreed." On page three, insert at the end of paragraph two, "They were not planning to
install barriers." After the sixth paragraph, insert"They didn't want to put money into
improvements." Insert after the eighth paragraph, "Several Councilmember's also
expressed concern that if temporary improvements were made, MnDot might not return
to do the final plan." After the eleventh paragraph, insert", but not in the interim plan."
Councilmember Finkelstein added in the discussion with MnDot, "Council authorized
staff and the Mayor to meet with MnDot to discuss what they could do to alleviate the
concerns." On page five, paragraph five, it should be"Council" instead of"staff'. In the
same discussion insert, "They talked about the fact that they had conducted a study as to
how much industrial property was left in the City."
The minutes were approved as corrected.
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4. Approval of Agenda and Items on Consent Calendar
NOTE. The Consent Calendar lists those items of business which are considered to be routme and/or which need no
discussion. Consent items are acted upon by one motion If discussion is desired by either a Councilmember or a
member of the audience,that item may be moved to an appropriate section of the regular agenda for discussion
4a Adopt Resolution No. 05-138 accepting the Vision for Minnehaha Creek.
4b Bid Tabulation: Purchase of Granular Activated Carbon (GAC) Supply Contract.
Authorize execution of a contract with Calgon Carbon Corporation for the
purchase of GAC in the amount of$69,568.00
4c Designate Frattalone Paving as the lowest responsible bidder and to authorize
execution of a contract for the reconstruction of the parking lot at Cedar Knoll
Park/Carlson Field in an amount not to exceed $87,518.00.
4d Adopt Resolution No. 05-139 that accepts this report and authorizes the purchase
of equipment scheduled and budgeted for 2006.
4e Moved to item 8g
4f Approve purchase of up to thirty four 800 MHz portable radios for Emergency
Management purposes
4g Resolution No. 05-140 of the St. Louis Park City Council in recognition of
dedicated service toward planning the future of the City of St. Louis Park as
members of the Minnehaha Creek Watershed District Task Force
4h Accept Vendor Claim report for filing (supplement)
4i Accept PRAC minutes of 5/18/05 for filing.
4j Accept Planning Commission minutes of 9/21/05 for filing.
Mr. Harmening indicated information for items 6e and 8a had been distributed and the public
agenda had been amended to reflect those changes. Item 4e was being moved from the consent
agenda to item 8g on the regular agenda.
It was moved by Councilmember Santa, seconded by Councilmember Omodt, to approve the
Agenda and items listed on the Consent Calendar.
The motion passed 7-0.
5. Boards and Commissions- None
6. Public Hearings
6a. 2006 Budget and Property Owner Service Charge for Special Service District No. 1
Mr. Merkley presented the staff report.
Mayor Jacobs opened the public hearing. No speakers present. The public hearing was closed.
It was moved by Councilmember Basil!, seconded by Councilmember Sanger, to approve
Resolution No. 05-128 setting the 2006 Budget and Property Owner Service Charge for
Special Service District No. 1 and directing staff to certify the annual service charge to
Hennepin County.
The motion passed 7-0.
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6b. 2006 Budget and Property Owner Service Charge for Special Service District No. 2
Mr. Merkley presented the staff report.
Mayor Jacobs opened the public hearing.
David Payne commended the Council and staff for a job well done. The City should be
proud to have one of the nicest streets in the Upper Midwest.
Mayor Jacobs thanked business owners for helping make the Special Service District work.
Mayor Jacobs closed the public hearing.
Councilmember Omodt asked if the Best Western on Excelsior had shut down, he didn't
see them on the list in the staff report. Mr. Merkley replied they were shut down,but had
been working with the City to make payments.
It was moved by Councilmember Basill, seconded by Councilmember Omodt, to approve
Resolution No. 05-129 setting the 2006 Operating Budget and Property Owner Service Charge
for Special Service District No. 2 and directing staff to certify the annual service charge to
Hennepin County.
The motion passed 7-0.
6c. 2006 Budget and Property Owner Service Charge for Special Service District No. 3
Mr. Merkley presented the staff report.
Mayor Jacobs opened the public hearing. No speakers present. The public hearing was closed.
Councilmember Basill stated they were excited to have this come to the West side of
Hwy 100 on Excelsior Blvd.
It was moved by Councilmember Basil!, seconded by Councilmember Sanger, to approve
Resolution No. 05-130 setting the 2006 Operating Budget and Property Owner Service Charge
for Special Service District No. 3 and directing staff to certify the annual service charge to
Hennepin County.
The motion passed 7-0.
Council Meeting Minutes -5- October 10, 2005
6d. Public Hearing to Consider Ordinance modifying Compensation of the
Mayor and City Councilmembers and Resolution No. 05-131 revising salaries for
the Economic Development Authority President and Commissioners
Ms. Gohman presented the staff report.
Mayor Jacobs opened the public hearing. No speakers present. The public hearing was closed.
It was moved by Councilmember Brimeyer, seconded by Councilmember Omodt, to
approve the first reading of the ordinance modifying Mayor and City Councilmember
compensation, and set second reading for October 17, 2005.
Councilmember Finkelstein stated he wasn't comfortable with this, but felt the Mayor
spent many hours and was underpaid and preferred to address each position separately.
Councilmember Sanger indicated she was not in support of the motion. Their salaries
were consistent with salaries of Councilmember's in other similarly sized suburbs. She
didn't do this for the money,but for the value she placed on serving the community.
Councilmember Basill realized they put in a lot of time for the community and agreed
with Councilmember Sanger and does it because he wanted to do it,not because of the
pay. He also heard the other side of the argument with the amount of time they put in.
People in the community may want to serve on the Council and may need those dollars
because of no paydays at work and time off. He understood why some Councilmembers
would support this,but he could not support the increase. He agreed with
Councilmember Finkelstein about the Mayor's salary.
Councilmember Brimeyer stated they could have tabled this at the study session instead
of putting it on the agenda.
Councilmember Omodt indicated this was a cost of living increase for people who work
really hard and take a lot of time away from their family to serve the community. People
who may want to run for office may need the money. For the amount of time most of them
put in including driving across town(and gas going up), he didn't believe a 3% increase
was bad.
Councilmember Santa agreed if they did this for the money, they wouldn't be doing it.
They do it because they love it and want to be involved in the community. While for one
person finances may not be an issue, it may prevent someone from even considering
running for office. They do it for future Councils. It made sense and she supported it.
Councilmember Finkelstein respected the opinions of other Councilmembers. They put
in many hours responding to calls and Emails, going to neighborhood meetings, etc. He
would be more comfortable if they did the Mayor's salary separately.
Mayor Jacobs thanked Councilmember Finkelstein for the commentary, but they needed
to separate the salaries from the individuals who held the jobs. They represent the office,
but they aren't the office. It was for the future Council. He would hate to think someone
thinking about running for an office would decide against it because the cost was
prohibitively high. They do it for many reasons.
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Councilmember Brimeyer stated he served on the Council prior to now and it cost him
money because he was not hired in his consulting role to do searches by Metro cities and
he was told that because of his position on the Council. It can be expensive.
Councilmember Finkelstein added that the other Councils weren't meeting as often or for
as many hours,but looking at where this raise fit, it didn't fit for him.
Councilmember Basill also added for his ward, he spent many hours meeting with developers.
The arguments had validity. He would like to separate the positions in the motion.
The motion passed 4-3, with Councilmember's Basil!, Finkelstein and Sanger opposed.
It was moved by Councilmember Brimeyer, seconded by Councilmember Omodt, to adopt
Resolution No. 05-131 to modify Economic Development Authority Commissioner
compensation.
The motion passed 4-3, with Councilmember's Basil!, Finkelstein and Sanger opposed.
6e. Public Hearing to Consider 2006 Fees
Ms. McGann presented the staff report.
Mayor Jacobs opened the public hearing. No speakers present. The public hearing was closed.
Councilmember Sanger clarified that fees were set to reflect the actual cost of providing a
service, not to make a profit. Ms. McGann replied that was correct. By State Statute,
they were not allowed to collect more dollars than what it costs to provide the service.
Councilmember Sanger asked how variance fees were calculated for those with more
than one variance? Ms. McGonigal replied a single fee is charged because the staff
analysis doesn't take more time. The fee essentially had gone down.
Councilmember Omodt asked about the snowfall parking permit fee? Mr. Rardin
responded it was for residents to park on-street. They can purchase up to two permits.
Councilmember Omodt asked about the fee for caregiver's permits? Mr. Rardin replied
that was for a caregiver where off-street parking was unavailable, which was added by
the Council a few years ago. Prior to that they were paying the $125 permit fee.
Councilmember Basill asked if the restaurant smoking area surcharge needed to be included?
Mr. Hoffman replied the ordinance was still on the books. The fee did not apply because the
restaurants were smoke free. That ordinance provision could eventually be removed.
It was moved by Councilmember Santa, seconded by Councilmember Brimeyer, to approve 1st
reading of an ordinance adopting fees for 2006 and set second reading for October 17, 2005.
The motion passed 6-1, with Councilmember Omodt opposed.
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6f. Time Warner Franchise Renewal
Mayor Jacobs opened the public hearing. No speakers present. The public hearing was closed.
- Mr. Pires indicated they were waiting to hear from Time Warner headquarters on the
counter offer. The state of negotiations was getting the City and Time Warner closer to
what they were aiming for in terms of local origination programming.
Councilmember Finkelstein asked if the Council could do anything to make the process
simpler? Mr. Pires replied this was not unusual and asked for the Council's patience.
It was moved by Councilmember Sanger, seconded by Councilmember Santa to continue
the public hearing and extend the term of the franchise agreement to November 7, 2005
The motion passed 7-0.
7. Requests, Petitions, and Communications from the Public—None
8. Resolutions, Ordinances, Motions
8a. Comcast Transfer
Mr. Pires stated the two key items were the fee review analysis recently submitted to
Time Warner who owes the City$60-73,000 in franchise fees which is under review, and
the technical and financial capability report that the City has yet to receive on Comcast
and their ability to run the cable system.
It was moved by Councilmember Sanger, seconded by Councilmember Santa, to extend
the date to consider transfer of the Cable Communications Franchise Ordinance and
cable system from Time Warner Cable, Inc. to Comcast Cable Communications, LLC to
the November 7, 2005 Council meeting.
The motion passed 7-0.
8b. Resolution No. 05-132 confirming appointment of Nancy J. Stroth to the position of
City Clerk.
Ms. Gohman presented the staff report.
Mayor Jacobs indicated that Cindy Reichert did a wonderful job and put into place the process
and people to make the transition seamless and Ms. Stroth will be an excellent replacement.
It was moved by Councilmember Sanger, seconded by Councilmember Finkelstein, to
adopt Resolution No. 05-132 confirming the appointment of Nancy J. Stroth to the
position of City Clerk, effective October 10, 2005.
Councilmember Basill recalled meeting Ms. Stroth and stated it was good to have staff
that cared about the residents and community.
Ms. Stroth thanked the Council for their consideration and she was honored to serve as City
Clerk.
The motion passed 7-0.
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8c. lst Reading of an ordinance authorizing payment of claims by the Finance
Director and adoption of Resolution No. 05-133 allowing the use of facsimile
signatures on orders for payment.
Ms. McGann presented the staff report.
It was moved by Counctlmember Brtmeyer, seconded by Councilmember Omodt, to adopt
first reading of an ordinance adding Article V to Chapter 2 of the City Code delegating
authority to the Finance Director to pay all proper obligations of the city without prior
council approval, and to set second reading for October 17,2005; and, to adopt
Resolution No. 05-133 allowing the use of facsimile signatures on orders for payment.
The motion passed 7-0.
8d. Resolution No. 05-134 approving the updated City Emergency Preparedness
Plan
Chief Stemmer presented the staff report.
It was moved by Councilmember Santa, seconded by Councilmember Sanger, to adopt
Resolution No. 05-134 approving the revised Emergency Preparedness Plan.
Councilmember Omodt asked if they learned from recent hurricanes about interacting
with FEMA, Federal, State and County agencies? Chief Stemmer replied emergency
preparedness ultimately starts with the idea of local autonomy. A local community is
asked to use its resources to take care of itself. The Federal government can't come in to
help until they are asked to. He went on to add that they coordinate with State and
County emergency management officials on a weekly or monthly basis and he didn't
believe that happened in Louisiana would happen in St. Louis Park.
Councilmember Finkelstein believed they could learn and include in a future emergency
plan an evacuation plan. They should consider basic ground rules for units of over 100.
Chief Stemmer replied that was an area they planned to look at.
The motion passed 7-0.
8e. Request by SilverCrest Properties for a Major Amendment to a Planned Unit
Development. Location: 3601 Park Center Boulevard Case No: Case No. 05-33-PUD
Ms. McGonigal presented the staff report and noted the enhancements to the campus
since this was last discussed.
Councilmember Finkelstein stated if this project was approved, they would be adding
1,000 more units. It was their role in a major amendment to determine what affect this
development would have and whether it met their goals. He didn't believe this plan did.
This was a different project from what was approved over two years ago. Traffic had
only gotten worse. He didn't think they were under obligation to approve this plan. This
was approved as part of a senior project. He encouraged the Council to vote no.
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Councilmember Omodt understood traffic concerns, but if they were killing this project,
they might as well say no to all new development, including Hoigaard's. He didn't think
this change of use would change the traffic. The change of 55+would not change what
was initially approved that much. The developer has come back with a comprehensive
plan including: improving safety, sidewalks, and the parking situation, helping with the
bus shelter and public art. The Council was saying no to an opportunity for people who
live in the Park to move up into a different area and housing style. A high proportion of
the people moving into these projects come from the Park from single-family houses,
which frees up the housing stock for families. A project like this tied into the campus
whether 50+or 55+really added to the community. He was in favor of this. The
developer did a nice job and he was proud to have him in the community.
Councilmember Basill stated he initially voted against the project because of height and
struggled with concerns about a 14-story building and shadowing. He had a tough time
picturing a 14-story building with market rate condos and how it would fit the character
of the community. When this was initially approved with senior housing, they had a
need. They need diversity of housing stock and this was more of what they were getting
in that area. The consultant said not to give too much density of any one type to any one
developer and to keep it spread out geographically. They hadn't done that. They also
made the recommendation to spread developments out over time and they weren't doing
that. He preferred senior housing and was not supporting this.
Councilmember Sanger was OK with a 14-story building because it was an age-restricted
building and would generate less traffic. There is already a major traffic problem. She
would not support changing the age-restriction. It made more sense to have it as part of a
senior campus. She had heard many comments from residents who wanted this to be an
age restricted building, which provided them an alternative.
Councilmember Brimeyer asked about the increase in traffic for age-restricted versus non age-
restricted? Ms. McGonigal replied the difference was 15 trips versus a high-rise condo with
57 trips (peak). Daily trips went from 522 for senior condos to 627 for high-rise condos.
Councilmember Brimeyer stated the Council asked them to solve the parking problem
and they did. They had already agreed on 14-stories. The numbers were not that
significant. He was against this originally, but the last time the developer met with them,
they asked him to make additional changes and said if he solved the problems, he might
have a chance. He had solved the problems and they were saying it still didn't have a
chance. The percentage of buyers who came from St. Louis Park was significant. They
had created a climate where people wanted to stay here and were the victims of their own
well-planned success and now they were saying the door was shut.
Councilmember Basill responded he thought they told the developer to show them that
seniors would not work there and to consider doing a percentage. He would feel better
with 14-stories if it were 50% age-restricted and they hadn't done that. His objection to
the height was the number of market rate condominiums they put in. On second reading
of the 14-story senior building, he supported it because it was senior housing.
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Councilmember Brimeyer stated they shouldn't tie density to height, they could tie it to
traffic. You could have 14-stories and have 20 units.
Councilmember Finkelstein indicated it was never marketed as a senior building. He
might feel differently if they had tried and the market wasn't buying.
Mayor Jacobs noted this took five votes because it was a major amendment. If this were
voted down, what would happen? Ms. McGonigal replied the previous PUD was still in tact.
Mayor Jacobs asked if there would be an opportunity to amend this at some point? Ms.
McGonigal replied they could ask for a modification from a PUD for something else.
Councilmember Brimeyer stated they needed to separate the density issue from the
height. The issue was the number of units and the traffic they thought was caused. If the
developer says they can do less units with 14-stories, is that fine?
Councilmember Basill noted he hadn't seen any adjustments in the units or square
footage, it was simply a change from senior housing to market rate condominium. An
extra floor meant more units.
Councilmember Santa clarified it had been approved as a 14-story building, the issue was
not the height or the density, it was whether it was senior or not senior. They were
talking about and how it affected traffic and parking. They addressed those issues and
pedestrian transit improvements. Those were the questions they discussed at study
session. She felt they had made an effort to address those issues and the concerns she
had. She was prepared to support this.
Mike Gould, SilverCrest Properties, stated that their market is seniors and those are the
people they would see in this building. They cannot finance it as an age restricted
building. They were not going to be generating more traffic than what they were as an
office building. It was a little more than if it were an age restricted building. If density
was an issue,was there something they could support in terms of fewer units and fewer
stories? They needed to determine if it made economic sense to do that.
Mayor Jacobs indicated based upon the last study session, he was not concerned about the
height, he was a little concerned about traffic,but compared the numbers for what was
proposed to what was currently there and didn't see much of an increase. He thought the
developer made a good faith effort to address concerns the Council raised. It needed five
votes and they didn't have them. The concern was density, which translated to traffic.
Mr. Harmening asked where they fell for the 60/120 day requirement? Ms. McGonigal
replied the 120`h day was October 18`h. The developer could agree to extend it.
Mr. Harmening suggested if the developer agreed to extend the 120-day period, to
continue the matter to November 7th and allow staff to work further with the developer.
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Councilmember Omodt asked what the goal Council was trying to achieve? The
developer wanted to invest $50 million into the community. Excelsior and Grand was
supposed to be an economic engine to build condos and they gave it a lot of TIF and it was
supporting things like this and Hoigaard's, etc. There were no tax dollars involved. If they
lowered the restriction, they would probably get the same result. The message they were
sending to the development community was, "go away". This was not good for their
reputation with the development community. If they want this community to redevelop
they need to work with developer and not send them away to come back with public art,
etc, and then argue about the height, etc. Sixty percent of people buying would be St.
Louis Park residents. This is within walking distance to Excelsior on Grand, shopping,
Target, Byerly's the Post Office, the Rec. Center. If they send him away, they should put
the brakes on all development. They need to determine the end result they were looking
for.
Councilmember Sanger stated that the underlying premise of Councilmember Omodt's
statements did not reflect her perspective. He was saying if they didn't approve this as
requested, all development was going to stop. The goal she was looking for was a
diversity of housing stock in the community serving different populations. They have
plenty of market-rate, non age-restricted condos. Some of the approvals they had given
in the past reflect the fact they thought this proposal was going to be age-restricted. She
would like to see the original approved proposal developed.
Councilmember Finkelstein agreed they needed to sit down and do soul searching
because they had approved almost 1,000 units, the vast majority of which were in a two-
mile area. They needed to decide if they were growing too fast. Secondly, in regard to
the traffic, West 36th St. is a disaster and they were only going to make it worse.
Councilmember Basill commented in Ward Two there was no shortage of developers.
They need to make sure developers bring in something that fits the character of the
community and the housing needs they were looking for. He was not going to
rubberstamp anything a developer brought forward. They would live with the project and
had to ask tough questions, be cautious and be good stewards.
Mayor Jacobs agreed he didn't think the development community would go away, but
was disappointed in the message they were sending this one. It was 150 unit building,but
they might be OK with a fewer units, they were nitpicking. He heard the same concern
expressed about the number of condominium units,but he was not sure that was their
call. The private market wouldn't be building it unless they had a market for it.
Mr. Gould stated they had been in the community for almost 20 years and had been good
stewards. Park Shores' reputation is Twin City wide and because of that, diversity of
housing comes into play. People would know where the Park Shore location is and they
would get a disproportionate amount of seniors moving in. Seniors would be the target
market. That was their business. They could not finance this as age restricted. He agreed
to write a letter to extend the time another 30 days.
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Mr. Harmening asked the Council what area they should focus on? Councilmember
Sanger responded her question was if they could reconfigure a senior project? Her
concern was losing the senior designation, not changing the number of units. Mr. Gould
replied short of going to rental, they couldn't. It will be a feeder for Park Shores and
Parkwood Shores. The vast majority of buyers will probably be over 55.
Mayor Jacobs clarified that the private financial market will not finance a senior
designated building.
Councilmember Sanger asked how Rottlund could build a senior building(the Bernard
project)? Mr. Gould replied that was a much smaller scale project and dollar figure.
When you get into the $40-50 million range, the lenders won't do it.
Mayor Jacobs asked what result they were looking for? Councilmember Brimeyer stated
they tried to create the success and succeeded,now they were not prepared to deal with it.
The bank says that they won't allow age restricted, it was an economic fact. The issues
are the number of units, height and traffic. They need to look at traffic issues. Too many
units produced too much traffic,but the counter was they were not creating any more
traffic based on uses there today. This has been zoned high density residential since 1992.
They were not changing the zoning or the comprehensive plan. He came in with age
restricted and they thought it was a good idea. When he sells it, it will end up that way.
Councilmember Finkelstein stated at some point they will have to start saying where they want
to be as a community, how many units they want and what it does do to traffic?
Councilmember Brimeyer replied they had as a part of the Housing Summit study, they said
2,500 units.
Councilmember Omodt stated that West 36th St. backed up, but if they look at traffic,
they need to tell Hoigaard's to go away. Traffic is always an issue and can be worked on.
MnDOT came forward with Hwy 100 changes, which would relieve traffic over time.
Look at what's there now and what it would be. The change was incremental. This
developer would not be the problem on West 36th St. What diversity did they want? The
campus idea made sense. People would go from the high-rise to the other buildings. No
one has rubber stamped any project that has come through. They have no clear goals, it
was getting to the point of just saying no.
It was moved by Councilmember Brimeyer, seconded by Councilmember Omodt, to
continue the discussion to the November 7, 2005 Council meeting.
Councilmember Basill stated Councilmember Brimeyer's comment was fair that he was
concerned about 14-stories and about it fitting the character of the community. He also
agreed with Councilmember Sanger about diversity. He would like the guarantee that it
would be a senior building. That was the diversity they were looking for. Can the motion
have a contingency that all marketing material will be geared toward senior housing?
That may end up with the results they were looking for. He requested a letter stating that
it cannot be financed with an age-restriction.
The motion passed 7-0.
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Councilmember Brimeyer noted that some businesses were leaving Excelsior and Grand
because there was not enough traffic. Part of having success was creating critical mass
and one of the results was some traffic congestion. If you create a desirable product,
people will come, in spite of the traffic. If they don't create a little more chaos at
Excelsior and Grand, they will have more business turn over than they care to live with.
They should think about that.
8f. Holiday Station - Conditional Use Permit for Rebuilding Convenience Store
and a Variance for Off-Street Parking. Case Nos. 05-41-CUP and 05-42-VAR
Mr. Fulton presented the staff report.
Councilmember Sanger stated this building would be an improvement. How did they give a
reduction for transit? Her biggest concern was closing the most Southwest driveway.
When they get the Hwy 100 project and lose the Eastern most access on Minnetonka Blvd,
it left one access point. She was concerned with traffic going in and out of one driveway
and potential confusion and traffic not flowing properly on the site. Her other concern was
people coming off of the Hwy 100 ramp and going the wrong way on Vernon Avenue to
access the gas station. They should think about no access on Vernon Avenue to preclude
potential crashes. Mr. Fulton responded that the applicant indicated customers use transit.
There is transit on Minnetonka Blvd and therefore they qualify. There is room at the access
on Minnetonka Blvd to change it by moving it and they could make it a right in, right out.
As to the entrance on Vernon Avenue, by narrowing it, they hoped to improve the traffic
circumstances. With the site improvements, they could also provide additional signage to
alleviate concerns.
Councilmember Sanger didn't believe signage would resolve that issue. Why do they
need to have any access on Vernon? Mr. Fulton responded that the applicant has
indicated it is an important access to the business. Ms. McGonigal added for the overall
site circulation, they needed that access point.
Councilmember Finkelstein noted if they close it, traffic might back up on Minnetonka.
Councilmember Santa stated she goes past this site every day on transit and sees people
getting off and going into the store. She had a concern with landscaping at the corner and
pedestrian visibility. Mr. Fulton replied there is an extensive landscaping ordinance and
to meet that, applicants are required to put in a lot of vegetation. Ms. McGonigal
indicated they would make sure that the plants were low enough to allow visibility.
It was moved by Councilmember Sanger, seconded by Councilmember Santa, to adopt
Resolution No. 05-136 of approval for a parking space variance, reducing the required
number of parking spaces by 10 spaces,for a total of 16 available parking spaces.
The motion passed 7-0.
It was moved by Councilmember Sanger, seconded by Councilmember Santa, to adopt
Resolution No. 05-137 of approval of the Conditional Use permit to reconstruct the
convenience store at the Holiday Station located at 5430 Minnetonka Boulevard, subject
to conditions.
The motion passed 7-0.
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8g. 2"d Reading of Ordinance No. 2300-05 Amending the Local Tax on Lawful
Gambling, approve the summary and authorize summary publication
It was moved by Councilmember Basil!, seconded by Councilmember Santa, to approve
2nd Reading of an Ordinance Amending the Local Tax on Lawful Gambling, approve the
summary and authorize summary publication.
The motion passed 6-0-1, with Councilmember Omodt abstaining.
9. Communications
Councilmember Santa reported on the kickoff event for Bookmark in the Park and reading of
Tale of Despereawc. It was a great event. The next event is October 17`h
Mayor Jacobs encouraged people to read the book and for more information to go to,
www.bookmark-in-the-park.org.
Councilmember Santa indicated that the Westwood Hills Nature Center Halloween Party was the
upcoming weekend.
10. Adjournment
The meeting adjourned at 9:52 p.m.
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