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ST. Louis OFFICIAL MINUTES
PARK CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION
February 2, 2004
The meeting convened at 8:30 p.m.
Councilmembers present: John Basill, Phillip Finkelstein, Paul Omodt, Sue Santa, Susan Sanger,
Sally Velick, and Mayor Jeff Jacobs.
Staff present: City Manager(Mr. Harmening), Chief of Police (Mr. Luse), Fire Chief(Mr.
Stemmer), PSAP Manager(Ms. Alex), Planning and Zoning Supervisor(Ms. Jeremiah), Housing
Programs Coordinator(Ms. Larsen); Housing Supervisor(Ms. Schnitker), and Deputy City Clerk
(Ms. Stroth).
Others present: Jeff Nelson, PSC Alliance; Stonebridge Development Project Team.
1. Public Safety Answering Point(PSAP) Consolidation Study Update
PSAP Manager, Heather Alex,presented a brief overview of the need for future options for the
delivery and infrastructure of public safety 9-1-1 dispatching services. She stated PSC Alliance
conducted a study of alternatives to deal with the impact of declining LGA funds; and ways to
maximize effectiveness and save money while still maintaining an acceptable level of service.
She stated the two options include sharing dispatching services with other cities or requesting
dispatching services from Hennepin County Sheriff.
Jeff Nelson, PSC Alliance, summanzed the analysis of the study. He stated similarities and
differences were found in technology, staffing,policies, procedures,protocols, and governance.
Mr. Nelson indicated the importance of how well partners get along and that the needs are being
met. He discussed demographic issues and the economies of consolidation. He concluded there
are opportunities for better use of staff and technology.
Councilmember Finkelstein questioned why some suburbs who use Hennepin County Dispatch
Services do not have to pay while others are charged.
City Manager Harmening stated conversations were held with County Commissioner Gail
Dorfman regarding training and startup costs; and that the County Board will be discussing
policy issues.
Councilmember Sanger suggested to not only look at the costs, but also the long range plan. She
also indicated that the City Attorney look at the issue
City Manager Harmening and Mayor Jacobs both agreed there is still the need to continue
working with Hennepin County.
Councilmember Santa asked if funds could be available from Department of Justice through
homeland security. She felt that more consolidation might produce a more rapid response.
Mr. Nelson responded these grants are more technology based and not for staffing levels.
Ms. Alex indicated the possibility of a grant up to $500,000 for radio equipment and
infrastructure to connect our system with Hennepin County radio system. She stated the
Governor is proposing some funding for brick and mortar projects.
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Fire Chief Stemmer commented that availability of funds since in the aftermath of September 11
is now starting agencies to operate together.
Ms. Alex reviewed the timeline. She stated the first portion of funds must be spent by July 1,
2005 and that the clear direction with Richfield, St. Louis Park, Golden Valley, and Brooklyn
Center be determined by June 2004.
Mr. Nelson indicated the need for space, newer technology and resources for command and
control.
Discussion took place regarding the dual track approach and the cluster approach. Mayor Jacobs
concluded the incentive was to go forward with the dual track approach and that we would be
better served with the consolidation of other cities; and also to continue working with Hennepin
County.
City Manager Harmening commented on the importance for citizens to know we have looked at
all the options.
2. Stonebridge Development presentation regarding a proposed Senior Cooperative
Housing Redevelopment Project on the former Talmud Torah school property and
its request for Tax Increment Financing Assistance
Mr. Hunt introduced the following Stonebridge Development Project Team members:
Ron Mehl, Stonebridge; Mary Bujold, Maxfield Research Inc.; Jim Deanovie, Peter Andrea
Company; Gary Tushie, Tushie Architects; Tim Larkin, Glaser Financial; and Mark Ruff&
Stacie Kvilvang, Ehlers &Associates. He reminded the Council that the purpose of a
Preliminary TIF Application was to allow a developer to present a proposal in a project's initial
stages to determine if there was interest for staff and the developer to work further on the project
Mr. Mehl discussed how limited equity senior coops work, their track record in other suburban
communities, and the need for TIF assistance. He stated it would not be feasible to do rental
property at this location nor condominiums due to the market conditions.
Ms. Bujold stated from research, seniors are concerned about housing costs and in most cases
want to downsize or make a lateral move. She indicated this project provides a much needed,
more affordable housing option providing greater flexibility for seniors in St. Louis Park.
Councilmember Sanger questioned cost issues, advantages and disadvantages of senior coop
housing verses senior condominium housing.
Mr. Mehl responded that the market is the key issue where the downpayment is a source of the
funds and a function of financing the project verses taking out a loan. He stated there is less
market risk with cooperative housing and that it is a lifestyle choice.
Discussion took place regarding advantages and disadvantages of Cooperative Housing and
Condominium Housing.
Councilmembers Sanger and Santa asked if household incomes will be above or below a certain
threshold. Mr. Ruff indicated there are no limits on income or assets and that the terms could be
negotiated.
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Mayor Jacobs asked if there needs to be subsidizing or if the project could be developed without
TIF. Mr. Ruff stated there is a need for some level of subsidizing and the amount can be
discussed later.
Mr. Hunt stated the Tax Increment Financing will payout in less than 9 years. He stated the
funds will directly assist in the acquisition of the land at the site and also aid in the cost of
demolition of the building that is on site.
Councilmember Omodt stated he was not comfortable using TIF at this time and the need to
further discuss further goals in affordable senior housing, and other ways to develop the site.
Councilmember Santa indicated the need to figure out the main reasons to base a decision on
whether it is affordability, living environment of similar ages, or renting verses moving lateral,
etc.
Councilmember Velick felt there was a need for this kind of housing but was not committed to
do TIF and would like to know more regarding what makes this project a worthy TIF Project.
Councilmember Sanger requested staff to put together some business points and market study for
further discussion.
Mr. Hunt discussed the"very good"result of the TIF Proposal report card. He stated the
affordable income limit factor mode was determined by the value of unit as defined by the
Metropolitan Council.
City Manager Harmening summarized there is an interest for different types of housing products,
a need for more time to work with developer and develop operational business points.
Councilmember Omodt requested more information on the entire TIF policy.
It was the consensus of the Council to continue discussion on the Senior Cooperative Housing
Redevelopment Project and the policies and criteria for Tax Increment Financing.
3. Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at 10:30 p.m.
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