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SCT.ILOL/°/FS CITY COUNCIL MEETING
RK ST. LOUIS PARK,MINNESOTA
July 19, 2004
1. Call to Order
Mayor Jacobs called the meeting to order at 7.30 pm
Council members present: Mayor Jeff Jacobs, John Basill, Phil Finkelstein, Paul Omodt, Susan
Sanger, Sue Santa, and Sally Velick
Staff present: City Assessor(Mr. Stepnick), City Attorney (Mr. Scott), City Clerk (Ms.
Reichert), City Engineer(Ms. Hagen), City Manager(Mr. Harmening), Director of Community
Development (Mr. Locke), Engineer Development Manager(Mr. Olson), Public Works Director
(Mr. Rardin) and Supenntendent of Utilities (Mr. Anderson).
2. Presentations - None
3. Approval of Minutes
3a. City Council Minutes of June 21, 2004
The minutes were approved as presented.
3b. Study Session Minutes of June 21, 2004
Councilmember Velick noted on Page 3, Communications regarding Elliot School, she
had asked if the School Board was planning to do anything with the building and the
response she got was that they were looking for other renters. However, her intent was
not what they were going to do to rent it out, but if they were going to paint and fix it up
a little.
The minutes were approved as corrected.
3c. City Council Special Meeting Minutes of June 28, 2004
Councilmember Sanger noted that she was present
The minutes were approved as corrected.
4. Approval of Agenda and Items on Consent Calendar
NOTE The Consent Calendar lists those items of business which are considered to be routine and/or which need no
discussion Consent items are acted upon by one motion If discussion is desired by either a Councilmember or a
member of the audience,that item may be moved to an appropriate section of the regular agenda for discussion
(Alternatively Motion to add or remove items from the agenda, motion to move items from consent calendar to
regular agenda for discussion and to approve those items remaining on the consent calendar)
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4a. Motion to approve Ordinance No. 2275-04 amending St. Louis Park Ordinance
Code (Zoning) to eliminate stand alone motor fuel stations as a conditional use in
the General Industrial District, clarifying the temporary structure ordinance,
clanfying restaurant conditions in the Office District, and requiring tree protection
standards during construction activities; approve second reading, summary
ordinance and authonze publication. Case Nos. 04-22-ZA
4b. Motion to adopt Resolution No. 04-085 imposing a civil penalty of$1000 on
Boykin Management Co, Inc., DBA Holiday Inn Mpls West, 9970 Wayzata Blvd,
St. Louis Park, for liquor license violation as recommended by the City Manager.
4c. Bid Tabulation: Motion to designate BCG Construction as the lowest responsible
bidder and authorize execution of a contract with the firm in the amount of
$29,686.60 for Alley Improvement Project-7600 and 7700 Block Edgebrook
Drive, Project No. 03-15
4d. Bid Tabulation: Motion to designate Thomas & Sons Construction, Inc. the
lowest responsible bidder and authorize execution of a contract with the firm in
the amount of$318,707.39 for West 36th Street Water Improvements—City
Project No. 04-14
4e. Motion to designate Bituminous Roadways, Inc. as the lowest responsible bidder
and to authorize execution of a contract for the reclaiming and repaving of the
George Haun trail in Bass Lake Park in an amount not to exceed$75,339.00.
4f. Motion to authorize the Mayor and City Manager to execute an Encroachment
Agreement with Patrick Shea, 2646 Joppa Avenue South, for use of City nght-of-
way for placement of a retaining wall.
4g. Motion to adopt Resolution No. 04-086 accepting work on 2003 random
sidewalk replacement in the amount of$47,863.40
4h. Motion to adopt Resolution No. 04-087 accepting work on 2003 sidewalk and
trail constriction in the amount of$19,229.27
4i. Planning Commission Minutes of June 2, 2004
4j. Motion directing staff to pursue right-of-way acquisition associated with Trunk
Highway 100 Noise Wall Construction Project, Project No. 2005-01
4k. Motion to adopt Resolution No. 04-088 for the issuance of multifamily housing
revenue refunding bonds in an amount not to exceed$14,585,000 under MN
Statutes, Chapter 462C, as amended
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41. Motion to adopt Resolution No. 04-089 authorizing the installation of"No Parking"
restrictions on the north side of 26th Street for the 100 feet west of 25 'h Street.
It was moved by Councilmember Velack, seconded by Councilmember Santa, to approve the
Agenda and items listed on the Consent Calendar.
The motion passed 7-0.
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6. Public Hearings
6a. Public Hearing to consider granting an on-sale intoxicating and Sunday sale
liquor license to CSM Lodging Services, Inc., DBA Holiday Inn Minneapolis
West at 9970 Wayzata Blvd, St. Louis Park MN
Ms. Reichert clanfied that the report stated that a transfer of management operations
would occur, but there was technically no such thing as a transfer in liquor licenses This
was an entirely new license, a new owner of the building, and a new management
company that would be taking over the license.
Mayor Jacobs opened the public hearing.
Donndia Cianci, representing CSM Lodging, stated that they were a new company, and
had several companies across the United States and hotels in the City, and were very
much into the TIPS training and wanted to work very closely with the Police Department
regarding the liquor license
Mayor Jacobs closed the public hearing.
Councilmember Santa question if this was the third application for a liquor license in a
year.
Ms. Reichert responded for this location, this was the first sale of this establishment, this
year. Boykin Management purchased it and applied for a liquor license about a year ago.
Prior to that it was probably operated for two or three years under the same company
Councilmember Santa thanked Ms Reichert for the clarification.
It was moved by Councilmember Velick, seconded by Councilmember Omodt to approve
an on-sale intoxicating and Sunday sale liquor license effective Aug 2, 2004.
The motion passed 7-0
6b. Public Hearing on Alley Improvement Project and Assessment Hearing:
Alley Construction—4200 block of Ottawa Avenue, Project No. 04-16
Resolution No.'s 04-082 and 04-083
Mr Anderson reported in October 2003 the City received a petition from five homes
located in the 4200 block of Ottawa Avenue They requested that an alley be constructed
so they could build garages behind their homes. Those five homes currently have no
garages and the alley they would like to have constructed would run behind their homes
starting at 42nd Street heading South to 4233 on the East side of Ottawa Avenue. They
alley that was proposed to be constructed would be concrete and constructed on City
property because there was no existing right-of-way. The City owned all of the property to
the East of the homes and the alley would be constructed in a 14 foot wide right-of-way.
The alley to be constructed was 390 feet long and would be made of six inches of concrete.
The Council approved their petition and ordered staff to study the feasibility of the project.
Over winter staff prepared plans for this project and in the spring held a neighborhood
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meeting to discuss the plans for the project and the assessment process with those
homeowners. Affected residents were invited to the meeting as well as the surrounding
neighborhood. Staff received comments from those in favor and opposed. A study session
was held for the Council to provide an overview of the project and answer questions.
Neighbors were invited to that as well. On June 21st at the Council Meeting, the Council
approved the City Engineers report and ordered the public hearing. This project is
estimated to cost$68,000 which would be assessed to the abutting properties. The
assessment would follow the City's policy on alley assessment that states that 100% of the
costs would be assessed to the abutting property owners. The assessment is broken into
indirect and direct benefit. 30% of the assessment is for indirect and is assessed to all
abutting property owners. 70% is considered for direct benefit and would be assessed to
those properties that would receive access so they could construct garages. There are five
homes that would receive the direct benefit. It would be a 20-year assessment at 6.6%.
The owners had an option to pay early and pay before the November 15th deadline when
the assessment role was completed. Because half of the abutting property is a city
property, practice in previous construction projects was for the City to pay 50% of the
cost, thus $34,000 would come from the City's public improvement revolving fund. The
other 50% will be assessed to the owners on the West side of the alley.
Mayor Jacobs noted that petitions had been received from Manlyn Lingwall, Todd and
Patricia Mickelson and Phyllis and John Deinema and would be made a part of the record.
Mayor Jacobs opened the public hearing.
John Deinema,4201 Ottawa, stated that he was opposed to the construction of the alley
because it wouldn't do him any good and he thought it was a waste of tax payer money.
These people bought their homes knowing that they didn't have a garage. It was possible
for them to make a curb cut and put a driveway between their houses and if there wasn't
enough room, they could share a driveway, as many places do, and build a garage on
their own property without involving the City and people who had no need for the alley.
They already had garages and dnveways. He noted there was an on-going expense over
the $34,000 to maintain and plow the alley and the City was taking that on. He thought it
was a waste of money and asked if the City Attorney had looked at this because they
were doing pnvate work with public money?
Mr. Scott replied that this would be a public street and open to the public, even though it
was an alley versus a public street, it still fell into the category of a public street and there
was no problem with the City doing this type of improvement.
Mr. Deinema asked if the City had a requirement for these people to build a garage.
Mayor Jacobs replied he didn't believe there was a requirement.
Mr. Harmening replied that there was no code requirement dictating that they had to
have a garage.
Mr. Deinema asked if they didn't build an alley, could they drive their car on the grass in
back or was there a requirement to be cement, black top or gravel access to their property
from the alley.
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Mr. Harmening replied that was correct. A driveway and parking area should be hard
surface and should be concrete or bituminous.
Mr. Deinema asked for clarification that there was no requirement for a garage.
Mr. Harmening replied that was correct.
Mr. Deinema wondered how that was going to increase his property value because a
garage was not required to be built. He understood that they were giving them off-street
parking, but there was no garage involved. He asked if there was a cost involved with
moving the telephone poles, or would the alley be constructed on the East of the
telephone poles in the back.
Mr. Olsen replied if the poles were located within the right-of-way and were not obstructing
the alley, they would probably stay in place. Otherwise, the poles could be moved.
Mr. Deinema asked if that was part of the $68,000.
Mr Olsen responded that generally the poles are moved at the expense of the company
who owned the poles. There were contingencies built into the project to cover
unforeseen things such as that.
Mr. Deinema stated that he was inquiring about that because he wondered where the
alley would be and how close it would abut to his property.
Mr. Olsen replied that the right-of-way for a typical alley was fourteen feet wide. It would
be constructed across the City property but would abut directly to his property line. There
would be a two foot buffer from his property line to the edge of the concrete surface.
Mr. Deinema asked if the alley could be staked out so they knew where it would be? He
had rocks as a border in the back and wondered if he would have to move those.
Mr. Olsen responded that they would stake it and would work with owners on issues such
as moving rocks or plantings and things like that.
Mr. Deinema asked what provision the City would make to ensure that his driveway
would not be used by people going to use the alley There would be 10-15 feet between
the alley entrance and the entrance to his driveway he could see someone taking a short
cut going into his driveway and across the grass, then down the alley. They have trucks
going in the alley constantly, such as the cable company who go into their driveway and
across the grass. He had sprinklers in the back and they went across that, then down to
get at the utility poles in the back.
Mayor Jacobs suggested if he had to move the rocks, that could be a place for them.
Mr Harmening responded that there wouldn't be anything the City could do on private
property to remedy that kind of a situation. Having this type of driveway access was not
that unusual in the community. They could find garages gaining access off of the side
street on corner lots and he hadn't received many calls from people expressing problems
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with that kind of cut-through. He didn't believe there was anything special that could be
done, unless there was a grade change that might discourage that.
Ms. Hagen indicated that they could look at it. She,assumed that if it were utility trucks
trying to access the power poles or something behind, they were using the driveway
because of the curb cut so that they didn't have to jump the curb. Hopefully with the alley,
they wouldn't be doing that, but they could look at possibly providing bushes as a buffer.
Mayor Jacobs stated it would be worthwhile to check. It would be a concern to have
utility trucks going through your back yard.
Mr. Deinema asked if there would be another heanng regarding the assessment?
Mayor Jacobs replied yes.
Mr. Hannening clarified that there would be two hearings, one on the project relating to the
design, and the second hearing related to the financial and assessment part of the project.
Michelle Gnep, 4233 Ottawa, stated she had already gotten estimates on a garage and
was looking forward to building and having a garage. If they didn't have an alley and
had a shared driveway, they had a drop on the side of their house and to come in from the
street and have a driveway, there would be a gigantic drop. The benefit was going to be
to everybody and would increase property values immensely. They had three teenagers
in their family and had three cars, soon to be four, that were all parked on the street. If
they could get a two-car garage with parking in the back, they would be off the street.
This would help with snow plowing and safety issues with children in the street. She was
very much in favor of this and it was a definitely needed in their life.
Patty Mickelson, 4205 Ottawa, indicated that she wag opposed to the alley for many of the
same reasons as John and Phyllis (Deinema) at 4201. They felt there would be a 100%
increase in traffic behind their back yard (now it was 'an open lot) which came along with
dust, mud and noise. Now it was a peaceful, open lot,and she could sit on her deck, look
out her back yard and see the open lot. Many of them have used the lot for their children
to ride bikes and play games. A question was if there would be snow removal and
maintenance because it would be a dead-end? That lead her to believe that people would
try to go in the alley at the same time as someone exiting the alley. Who would get the
right-of-way because it wasn't a through alley? Were people going to start driving on her
side of the property line, off the black top and ruin her property? The telephone poles
were an issue because the telephone pole was right in her back yard. She would like
clarification on who was responsible for the pole and who would pay for relocation.
Mr. Olsen responded that typically poles were placed right on property lines, so with the
two foot buffer of green space between the alley, generally those poles would be left in
place and would be adjacent to the alley at those locations.
Ms. Mickelson stated a concern with drainage issues. They had lived in their home for
17 years and had no water damage in the basement. Now they would be redirecting the
drainage when the alley was constructed and she was fearful there might be some water.
Residents at the other end didn't have to pay because they had a private drive, yet they
would receive an indirect benefit because these people were supposedly going to build
garages, yet they had a pnvate drive and were not paying any of the cost. At the South
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end of Ottawa there were three or four homes that paid the City years ago to put in a
pnvate dnve and they bought the land from the City. That was how they made an
entrance behind their homes. This alley would only go part way down and not connect to
the pnvate dnve and they wouldn't have to pay. Why did they have to pay for something
that they didn't want? She was totally opposed because she was not going to receive any
benefit, she was only going to receive an ugly alley out her back yard. One of the home
owners that signed the petition was no longer living there, she didn't know if that had
been brought to anyone's attention and asked how that affected this? This would invite
vandalism behind their homes. There would be children playing in the alley with the
possibility of children getting hit or run over. She was concerned about bikes or other
items being stolen out of people's garages Mr. Demema brought up a good point that
those residents bought their homes knowing that they did not have a garage, therefore
they paid a lesser pnce for their homes, as they paid for theirs with a garage. They were
being penalized after all of those years of being a homeowner for having a garage and
being at the end of the area where the alley would go through. Do these homeowners that
want the alley have a deadline of when they are supposed to have a garage built? They
were saying no. This alley could potentially go through and one out of these five people
build a garage In the end they could be paying for one person to have a garage. They
were being given a deadline to pay for this project by November and they don't want to
pay for this, but they don't have to have a deadline to build a garage.
Russell Clarke, 4229 Ottawa, indicated he was in favor of this. Yes, he did know when
he bought his home that there wasn't a garage, but he had talked with some other
residents and they had expressed the concern of building a garage. Ms Gnep, he and the
two neighbors next to him definitely wanted to build garages and had talked about it over
the years. There would be a benefit because of safety issues. Now, with the kids in the
area, they ran into the street and rode bikes and having the cars off of the street would
increase the view for people dnving down the street. Adding the alley would be a
benefit He didn't believe kids would play in the alley, but believed it would increase the
safety in front of the house. He also had a steep incline in the back of his home and it
would be dangerous even with a driveway to dnve back into the garage and would pose
more of a safety issue if a child or pet ran out, there would be no way to stop if they hit
ice, they would slide down the hill. He was in favor of the alley being installed behind
the houses.
Manlyn Lingwall, 4211 Ottawa, indicated she was totally against this. She agreed with
her other neighbors that it was a safety issue and financial issue. She thought it would be
a bad thing to have an alley because of the safety and the money. They had always had
an open field She had lived there since 1986, that was one of the reasons she moved
there with a small child who played in that field. He was safe, all of the neighborhood
kids played back there. The people that were for the alley, had children who play in the
field, she had seen them riding their bikes. There are a lot of stray animals in the
neighborhood, they had been lost or stolen, what happens when they have an alley?
Children would be in an alley, it was a guarantee. Something bad would happen, there
would be a child stolen or a bad accident or a child would get killed. She was totally
against this, for all of the reasons as the previous speakers and her own.
Christine Lehman, 4225 Ottawa, stated she was in favor of the alley and believed it would
be a great improvement. The big open area is owned by the City of St. Louis Park and
there is a lot of dumping. There would still be a big area, the alley would only take up 14
feet. She felt it would be safer if the kids played in the alley than in the street in front of
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their homes which was where the kids were playing now. She thought it would be a big
improvement and would improve property values and would be nice to have access to their
back yards. Most of them were up high and their back yards were down low.
Mark Griep,4233 Ottawa, commented that this would move up single family homes for the
city which was one thing they were running low on space in their neighborhood. Having
access to the back for all of the other reasons that previous speakers gave would allow them
to build a garage. They had money set aside to build a garage and didn't know if other
people did, but they would for sure build a garage if the alley was constructed. It would
provide them with more space and allow them to stay in the neighborhood and also provide
more safety in the front. He didn't think it would affect kids playing in the back, there would
still be plenty of space, there was 41 acres and the alley would only take up a little space.
Ms. Lingwall noted that a home two houses south of hers, had built a dnveway out of
black top that went all the way to the property line and he drove his cars down there.
When people said they had steep inclines, so did he and he managed to do it all the time.
It wasn't a steep incline that would be dangerous because he had the same setup.
Mayor Jacobs closed the public hearing
Councilmember Sanger asked staff about the properties at the end of the block with the
private drive.
Mr. Olsen replied that the homes were located off of the cul-de-sac with a private drive to
access the first two and possibly the third home. He believed the property owners built
that years ago. Because the alley was not abutting those properties, it didn't serve any
benefit to those properties following the alley assessment policy.
Councilmember Basill indicated when Ms. Mickelson spoke she talked about drainage
and one-way snow plowing and asked staff to address those issues. There had been a lot
of talk from the speakers about the design and asked staff to also address the process that
would happen with the neighbors.
Mr. Olsen replied that they knew about drainage concerns and propagating drainage
across the alley. The alley was being constructed in a fashion where it would not obstruct
drainage from those properties. The flow of drainage would be from the back of the
yards toward the center of the city property. Water would leave their property, enter the
alley, run down the alley to the low point and spill off into the vacant property which
streamlined to enter a culvert at 42na Street. Regarding design considerations, it was
discussed at the public meeting in April When they move forward on the project and
construction, there would be an open house prior to construction where they would stake
out the alley and show where trees may be removed or any impact that may occur to
properties and they would work with the homeowners at that time.
Councilmember Basill asked how they would be notified of that process?
Mr. Olsen replied they would send a mailing and hold another meeting prior to construction.
Councilmember Basill clarified that the land behind would not become the individuals
private driveway, it would be City owned. There was a question earlier if the City
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Attorney had looked at this, they were not giving away the property, they were putting an
alley there and assessing the cost, but the City still owned that land. If the project went
through, he hoped that the 62% of those in favor of this alley would be good stewards and
would make an effort to build garages. It had been brought up if they could be required
to build a garage, but they couldn't require that. He hoped if they went through a project
like this and did this based on the policy, that the people who wanted it would build
garages and he encourage that.
It was moved by Councilmember Basill, seconded by Councilmember Sanger to adopt
Resolution No. 04-082 ordering the construction of a concrete alley in the 4200 block of
Ottawa Avenue, Project No. 04-16, approving plans and specifications and authorizing
receipt of bids.
The motion passed 7-0.
Mr. Olsen indicated that notice was sent to all of the abutting property owners about this
public hearing. In that notice it explained the assessment process and each individual
property owners cost for this assessment The assessment would be for$34,000, half the
cost of the alley, to those eight property owners abutting the project.
Mayor Jacobs opened the public hearing.
John Deinema, 4201 Ottawa, stated that he watched the previous Council meeting where
they had discussed the "slippery slope" of going 70/30 or 80/20, but he didn't feel he
would get much benefit out of this alley. He would have to tear down his garage and turn
it a different angle One of the Councilmembers said that maybe in the future these
people would decide to connect to the alley later on If that were the case, he would have
to build two garages and he only had fourteen feet between his garage and the property
line and couldn't possibly put another garage in, so he wouldn't be able to connect to the
alley. There were people at the South end who had their own garages and own alley,
similar to him, he had his own garage and own driveway, they were not being assessed
and part of this 30% was because he was going to get an increase in his property value.
He would hate to have them get an increase in property values without having to
contribute as well. He thought there should be some mitigation in the 70/30 and
consideration of those at the far end of the alley that had their own driveways and
garages. They would get an increase in dirt, dust, noise a 100% increase in traffic that
they didn't presently have and they were supposed to pay 30% of the project.
Mayor Jacobs clarified that this would be a paved alley and not dirt?
Mr. Olsen replied that was correct.
Patty Mickelson, 4205 Ottawa, asked how they determined a November date for the
payment if it hadn't been officially approved.
Mr. Stepnick replied that the county collects the special assessment and it was their
procedure to take all early payments prior to November 30`h, otherwise they would go on
the 20-year program and pay the special assessments with the property taxes. They
needed a cut off so when they certified all of the special assessment projects, they could
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do,it in time to make sure that the first payment on May 15th could be a special
assessment. There needed to be a cutoff to process it through Hennepin County.
Mayor Jacobs asked if they had to pay the whole special assessment by November 30`h?
Mr Stepmck replied that the advantage to paying prior to November 30`h was that the
6.65 interest would not be incurred. Some people elected to do that and others went with
the 20-year program. If it was assessed and the special assessment went toward the taxes,
if you sell a property, it would be paid out of the proceeds of the sale.
Ms. Mickelson asked if they chose to do the payment program and then decided to pay it
all off, could they do that?
Mr. Stepnick replied that would be a third option. If it is specially assessed and certified
to the County and then they later elected in future years to pay off the balance, they could
do that at any time, but it needed to be the entire balance.
Marilyn Lingwall, 4211 Ottawa, asked what benefit it did for those opposed? They shouldn't
have to pay, they didn't want the alley and it didn't benefit them at all or do anything for their
properties. All they had was an ugly, unsafe alley that benefited the rest of the people on the
block and not their three families. She couldn't afford additional property taxes.
Mayor Jacobs closed the public hearing.
Councilmember Santa asked for a point of clarification if this project had not gone out for bid?
Mr. Olsen replied that was correct.
Councilmember Santa asked if the sum they were asking for was an estimate that could
be a little bit higher or lower?
Mr. Olsen replied that was correct, but they could not assess any higher than $68,000. If
they received a bid over that, the Council would have to consider how to make up the
difference. Typically, many of these projects fall under the Engineers estimates.
Councilmember Santa clarified that $68,000 for the project was the maximum.
Ms. Hagen indicated if the project costs came in less, the dollar amounts would go down
as well. It was based on the actual cost at the end of the project.
Councilmember Finkelstein stated the last time they discussed this issue they talked about
not getting on that "slippery slope." He drove out and visited the property, but was not
aware of the fact that there was a private cul-de-sac with a private driveway and those
people didn't seem to be getting a benefit either, which was a little troubling. They had
talked about not departing from the 70%/30% direct/indirect benefit and he wondered if
the Council should be revisiting that issue.
Councilmember Basill thought when he looked at the area and was out there, there was
no question that if he lived in those three homes he wouldn't want it and if he lived in the
other five, he would want this. It was very clear that where you lived would be where
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you would end up having a decision on this. What he struggled with the most was not
whether they should do it, he thought they needed to do it. They had a shortage of move-
up housing and needed garages in Minnesota. They wanted to provide people a way to
have garages in St. Louis Park and not leave and go out to Eden Prairie or other areas,
they wanted people to stay there and had a great need for move-up single family homes.
He was completely supportive of this project from day one. The issue that he struggled
with all along was the assessment At first they looked at it and realized City property
was abutting it and believed the City should pay a share because they owned the property.
Next there was the issue of what the appropriate assessment was. The policy says 70/30,
but this was a unique situation They asked staff to put together a chart showing 70/30,
75/25, 80/20 or 90/10, they looked at that and could possibly discuss it further. He was
supportive of this project, they needed to approve it and move forward. The only
question he wrestled with was if they should change from their policy.
Councilmember Sanger felt that every time they deal with these issues, at the end of the
day even people who didn't want to build a new garage on a new alley did benefit
because it benefited the property values in the whole area. At some point in the future
they may decide to revisit this policy, but they had a policy now and she didn't see
anything unique about this block compared to any other blocks where they had built
alleys and the same issues arose where people felt they weren't being benefited to the
same degree. She thought they were benefited in a different way by the improvements to
the houses around them and that raised the values for the whole neighborhood. People
who already had alleys paid for them one way or another, either because there was an
assessment for them or reflected in the higher price they paid for their homes. She was in
support of going forward with the alley assessment according to the current policy. They
had already discussed this at quite some length and it was time to move on.
Councilmember Velick agreed and could use an example in Ward 4 where they had open land
and were going to construct something in the open land and what a benefit it would be because
now, with open land,just like this open land, it had a lot of refuse and people were dumping.
It would be a benefit because they would not have that dirt and dumping anymore.
Councilmember Basill asked for clarification if that was an alley project9
Councilmember Velick replied it was not an alley project, but she was using open land in
general as being a place for junk and dumping.
Councilmember Basill stated that this was the part he struggled with the most because he
had gone out and looked at different areas, the one thing that made this slightly different
was that most of the time they were dealing with a dirt alley. In this case the three
homeowners, people weren't already driving behind the house and having dust blown up
as they sat on their deck. He completely agreed with Councilmember Sanger that there
was an indirect benefit to the values of their property and that others who have had alleys
had paid. There was also an indirect benefit by getting cars off of the street. Whether
they wanted to think that was a benefit or not, it was a benefit because the streets were
plowed better, it was safer, the homes stood out more, when visitors came they had a
place to park that was convenient, so there was an indirect benefit. The indirect benefit
that these people would not get that he saw on 95% of the other alley projects was that
they were not going to get the dust eliminated that they saw in most of the alley projects
because right now there was no dust because it was a grassy area.
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Councilmember Santa agreed with Councilmember Sanger that she didn't find a
compelling enough reason to waiver from the previous policy, although she thought they
might want to address it at some point in the future. She hoped that Mr. Deinema found
that the alley would get people out of his driveway and using the alley, and that would be
an indirect value for him. She believed there was an indirect benefit that was consistent
enough with previous practice that she wished to go forward with the 70/30.
Mayor Jacobs also shared Councilmember Sanger's view on this. As he was reading this,
he felt the voice of an old friend whispering in his ear, Len Thiel who was the Mayor of
St. Louis Park in the 1960's. They had these discussions and many times this was a
bigger deal in the 1960's because they were paving streets and building storm sewers and
he asked him about where the indirect/direct benefit notion come from and he said that it
developed over the course of many years with a lot of trial and error and every situation
was different. The public heanngs they used to have were dreadfully long and had to do
with storm sewers because the guy at the top of the hill never wanted to have to pay for
the storm sewer for the guy at the bottom of the hill and could see no benefit at all for
storm sewers and the kinds of things that would benefit the whole community, yet there
was an indirect benefit to them. He saw some unique circumstances that there was not an
existing alley that people were already dnving on that would be cleaned up, so it was
different to that extent. But was it different enough to warrant a change from a time
honored policy, he didn't think so. They had to be careful about granting a sort of
variance for special assessments because at the end of the day, nobody walks away happy
and he thought that was a bad result. He had sympathy for the people opposed to this,but
there was enough indirect benefit to them because of cars off the street and ease of
plowing snow. It was a close call, but there was no compelling reason to change the way
they had done these over the course of 50 years. It was not easy for them.
Councilmember Finkelstein agreed with Mayor Jacobs and thought it made sense that
they didn't want to get into a situation where every time they did a special assessment it
almost became like a variance hearing. He would support the majority position, but
would like to bring this back to study session within the next year, to review what
assumptions they were using in the 70/30 split and whether that made sense in this day.
Mayor Jacobs agreed that it would be worthwhile to look at that.
Councilmember Basill thought that Councilmember Finkelstein's point was valid. They
should learn from this and it probably merited bringing to study session the policy to ask
if 10% of the indirect value was getting cars of the street or 10% that there was not going
to be dust from the alley or 10% the access, because in a case like this they would not be
making an arbitrary decision. They should bring it back for a study session.
It was moved by Councilmember Basill, seconded by Councilmember Santa to adopt
Resolution No. 04-083 establishing the assessment for Project No. 04-16, construction of
alley for 4200 block of Ottawa Ave.
The motion passed 7-0.
Mayor Jacobs indicated they would be in touch with the neighborhood when they were
ready to begin construction.
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Mr. Olsen replied that they would be doing bids in July/August and construction in
September/October and there would be more discussion with the neighborhood.
7. Requests,Petitions, and Communications from the Public—None
8. Resolutions, Ordinances,Motions
8a. Water Feasibility Report: Water Treatment Plant Filter Rehabilitation
Project—Project No. 20041300 Resolution No. 04-084
Mr. Anderson indicated that they were referring to feasibility report for water treatment
plant#10. They had put in the CIP, the rehabilitation for the water treatment plants are
getting old and needed major work. Part of the work was changing the filter media which
was a process of cleaning the water and taking the iron and manganese out of the water.
During that process that had been in the CIP for a few years, there have recently been some
elevated levels of radium which added another piece to this project for radium removal.
They had incorporated the radium removal in with the water treatment plant rehab. The
additional work done for that would reduce the radium levels and also reduce the iron and
manganese levels in the water. This project was for one treatment plant, they would be
before the Council again to do the other treatment plants. There were six treatment plants,
four were affected by radium, so there would be radium removal in four of the six plants.
All six plants would be rehabbed in the near future. This was for water treatment plant#10.
Councilmember Sanger felt it was important for the viewers at home who were listening
to this that this was being done for future cost effectiveness purposes and not because
there was any kind of health hazard associated with their water.
Mr. Anderson added that the level for iron removal was a secondary level which was .3
part per million removal and they wanted to get below that parts per million of iron. Now
the plants were operating in the .2 to .3 range. By changing the filter media they would
be dropping it below .1 and improve the quality of the water.
Councilmember Sanger indicated it would help them keep having clean water in the
future in a cost effective manner.
Mr. Anderson indicated it stated in the resolution that the report was received from the
Utility Superintendent and that the bids shall be tabulated by the Utility Superintendent
That should be changed to "Director of Public Works". It was the introduction paragraph
and sections 3 and 5
Councilmember Sanger asked,when this would be done?
Mr. Anderson replied they would like to put it out for bids, the specifications were ready to go
out and they would be advertising July 29-August 13th for bids. Bids would come in August
and then come before the Council with an award presentation on the September 7th meeting.
Council member Santa asked once they got the bids, how long did the process of
rehabilitating a water treatment plant take?
Mr. Anderson replied if everything went as planned, about 40 days.
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It was moved by Councilmember Santa, seconded by Councilmember Finkelstein, to
adopt Resolution No. 04-084 accepting this report, establishing and ordering
Improvement Project No. 20041300, approving plans and specifications, and authorizing
advertisement for bids, with an amendment resolution changing "Utility
Superintendent" in the Introduction and Sections 3 and 5 to "Director of Public Works".
The motion passed 7-0.
8b. Request by Charles Stinson to vacate utility easement at 2545 Huntington
Avenue South, Case Nos. 04-13-VAC, 2545 Huntington Ave S.
Ordinance No. 2274-04
Mr. Locke indicated that this was acted on at the June 215t meeting and the first reading
was approved by the City Council. It was a vacation of a utility easement necessary for
the Biltmore Addition subdivision that was also acted on in June. There were no utilities
in the easement and Public Works had reviewed it.
It was moved by Councilmember Finkelstein, seconded by Councilmember Omodt, to
approve Ordinance No. 2274-04 to vacate a utility easement at 2545 Huntington Ave
South as requested by Biltmore Land Group, adopt ordinance, approve summary and
authorization publication.
Councilmember Sanger stated that she would be opposing this motion for the same
reasons that she had opposed this entire project all along.
The motion passed 6-1 with Councilmember Sanger opposed.
9. Communications
Mayor Jacobs indicated he had received good feedback on,the recent fireworks. They were some
of the best in the Western suburbs and he wanted to congratulate staff and the people who did the
fireworks. The Fourth of July was a smashing success.
Councilmember Velick wanted to note better than the best fireworks in the West, they had the
best Police and Dispatch. She had the opportunity to have a nde along and see how things
worked She learned a lot and they were good people. She thanked the Police and Dispatch.
10. Adjournment
The City Council meeting adjourned at 8:36 p.m. to an Executive Session.
11. Executive Session to discuss City Manager Performance Evaluation
At 8:40 p.m., the Council moved to executive session to discuss the City Manager
performance evaluation. All Councilmembers were present.
City Manager Tom Harmening arrived at 8:50 p.m. and attended the remainder of the
Executive Session.
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It was moved by Councilmember Santa, seconded by Councilmember Velick, to adjourn
the Executive Session.
The motion passed 7-0.
The Executive Session was adjourned at 9:55 ..m.
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