HomeMy WebLinkAbout2004/10/04 - ADMIN - Minutes - City Council - Regular ffCTY F OFFICIAL MINUTES
T.ILoucTs CITY COUNCIL MEETING
RK ST. LOUIS PARK, MINNESOTA
October 4, 2004
1. Call to Order
Mayor Jacobs called the meeting to order at 7:32 pm
Council members present: Mayor Jeff Jacobs, John Basil!, Phil Finkelstein, Paul Omodt, Susan
Sanger, Sue Santa, and Sally Velick
Staff present. City Manager (Mr. Harmening), City Attorney (Mr. Scott), Community
Development Director (Mr. Locke), Economic Development Coordinator (Mr. Hunt),
Planning/Zoning Supervisor(Ms. McGonigal) and Recording Secretary (Ms. Stegora-Peterson).
2. Presentations - None
3. Approval of Minutes
3a. City Council Minutes of September 20, 2004
Councilmember Velick noted on page 10 in the last paragraph of communications, the
second sentence should begin "Councilmember Velick". The last sentence of the
paragraph should read, "The resident wanted to say that she supported the program."
The minutes were approved as corrected
3b. City Council Special Meeting Minutes of September 20, 2004
The minutes were approved as presented.
3c. City Council Study Session Minutes of September 13, 2004
Councilmember Basil indicated on page 5, in the second paragraph of communication after
". Highway 100" the following should be inserted "; however, parking concerns are still an
issue " He also noted that the adjournment time should be 7.00 PM
The minutes were approved as corrected.
4. Approval of Agenda and Items on Consent Calendar
NOTE The Consent Calendar lists those items of business which are considered to be routine and/or which need no
discussion Consent items are acted upon by one motion If discussion is desired by either a Councilmember or a
member of the audience,that item may be moved to an appropriate section of the regular agenda for discussion
4a Adopt the Resolution No. 04-118 which creates a partnership to benefit Minnehaha
Creek
4b Approve second reading of Ordinance No. 2279-04 amending zoning map to change the
zoning designation from R2 - Single Family Residential to R4 - Multi Family Residential
for a portion of property located at 4100 Vernon Avenue South and 4135 Webster
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Avenue South subject to review of the Comprehensive Plan amendments by the
Metropolitan Council, to approve summary and authorize publication Case No 04-30-Z
4c Bid Tabulation: Purchase of Granular Activated Carbon (GAC) Supply Contract
Motion to authorize execution of a contract with Calgon Carbon Corporation for the
purchase of GAC in the amount of$51,440
4d Bid Tabulation: Designate Lametti & Sons, Inc the lowest responsible bidder and
authorize execution of a contract with the firm in the amount of$302,700.00 for the
Lamplighter Pond Lift Station Improvement Project— City Project No. 00-18A
4e Adopt Resolution No. 04-121 that accepts this report considering major equipment
replacement scheduled and budgeted for 2005
4f Approve a contract with SRF Consulting Group for Professional Design Services related
to the Excelsior Boulevard Street Improvement Project, Project No. 2004-0400
4g Adopt Resolution No. 04-122 authorizing installation and special assessment of a fire
sprinkler system at 1342 Colorado Avenue and directing the Mayor and City Manager to
execute a special assessment agreement with the property owner
4h Approve extension of Park Nicollet Health System's Minor Amendment to Planned Unit
Development for the construction of an interim parking lot in an open area south of the
medical building at 3900 Park Nicollet Blvd. until October 4, 2005.
Case No 03-49-PUD (originally approved October 7, 2003)
4i Receive Vendor Claim Report (Supplement)
It was motioned by Councilmember Santa, seconded by Councilmember Velick, to approve the
Agenda and items listed on the Consent Calendar.
The motion passed 7-0.
6. Public Hearings
6a. Public Hearing to consider petition to vacate an easement to construct slopes
and erect and maintain temporary snow fences created in Document No. 2826324 on
June 11, 1953 at Cedar Lake Road and Park Place Blvd.
Ms McGonigal presented the staff report.
Councilmember Sanger stated she didn't have a problem vacating the easement, but
wondered if the request was due to the property owner wishing to construct an additional
building9 Ms. McGonigal replied it was her understanding that they did not, they simply
wanted to clear the title on the property
It was motioned by Councilmember Sanger, seconded by Councilmember Finkelstein to
approve first reading of ordinance vacating slope and snow fence easement and set
second reading for October 20, 2004.
The motion passed 7-0
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7. Requests,Petitions,and Communications from the Public—None
8. Resolutions, Ordinances, Motions
8a Resolution supporting an Operating Levy Renewal and Bond Referendum
for Independent School District#283 (St. Louis Park Public Schools)
Resolution No. 04-118
Mayor Jacobs clarified that the resolution was in support of the two questions that would be
on the ballot in November for an operating levy renewal and an additional bond referendum.
Keith Broady, School Board Chair, stated that the School Board was unanimously behind
renewing their operating levy and doing a bond referendum for$10 million They had
mailed information to residents explaining the details. The operating levy equaled$7
million (18%) of a $40 million operating budget The pnmary use of the operating
budget was payment of salary and benefits for staff(teachers, aides, administrators,
custodians, etc.). It was a major impact. Not to renew the operating levy in place in St.
Louis Park would be devastating to the schools. They needed to renew it for ten years
and law allowed for an inflationary increase, which would add to the $7 million, between
$350-400,000 of additional money to the operating budget for the next fiscal year. It was
critical and they appreciated support from the City Council.
Mayor Jacobs asked if there was a web site where people could find additional
information9 Mr Broady replied there was information at slpschools org, which included
information on tax impacts and the Circuit Breaker property tax program
Mayor Jacobs stated that this community had a long history of supporting its schools and
kids. He assumed that this wasn't just for the K-12 program, but for early childhood and
pre-K. Mr. Broady replied that the operating budget was primarily K-12, but there were
things in the operating budget that supported other programs.
Mayor Jacobs indicated his question went to the bond referendum, which had to do with
some capital expenditures for the school buildings and that would not just cover K-12
buildings, it would cover all the district buildings? Mr Broady responded it would cover
all of the buildings where there were various things needed, such as routine repairs and
maintenance (roofs, pavement, boilers, etc.). In the School Finance law, school districts
are allowed a per pupil amount for capital expenditures for those type of items, but they
also compete with such items as textbooks and other capital equipment. The capital
budget per pupil amount had been frozen for about twelve years and given the competing
dollars, there was not enough to do some of the major items. For example on the senior
high building, they had 26 bays to the roof. They had a 20-year roofing plan and
constantly had to do some of the bays on the senior high. There were similar stones with
the other buildings There was never enough money to get caught up
Councilmember Velick asked if they would see some improvements on Elliot when the
referendum passed? Mr. Broady replied they had not designated that as a use. They
knew that the Elliot site could use some sprucing up. District 287 had indicated they
would be vacating it sometime this year, but approved a lease and would stay with their
existing program for this school year. Elliot would probably remain as-is for this school
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year. During calendar year 2005, they would have to look more seriously at what would
happen with Elliot. He didn't anticipate any major action. Some of the money was
geared toward roofing for Elliot.
Councilmember Basill stated that the schools are our community and they are a children
first community. It was something they needed. When residents looked at the housing
values and the long-term stability, this was something they needed to pass
Councilmember Finkelstein added that there are two separate bond questions and they
needed to vote in the affirmative for both of them The first one was for the operating
levy, which accounted for 18% of the current operating budget for the school district.
With the loss of that, they could be looking at significant classroom size increases or
closure of a building. The second was dealing with the change of a bond referendum to
deal with some construction needs and replacement needs It was his understanding that
the average age of the school building was approximately 45 years. This was something
that was very important for their school district, for the children and for all of the
property owners. A good school district leads to good property values.
Councilmember Sanger agreed that it was important to support this, not just parents of
school-age children, but by the entire community. Without a good school system, the
community would totally fizzle
Mayor Jacobs also agreed. It was one of the unique features about St. Louis Park that the
municipal boundaries were virtually the same as the school district boundaries. He was
very pleased with the education his children had gotten. There was a very close tie
between the health of the schools, the perception that the community has not only within,
but outside of it and property values. This was something that the community needed to
support for all of those reasons.
Donald Perwien, 3200 Virginia Av S #214, stated he had been a resident of St Louis
Park for 25 years. He received a lot of mailing from the City of St. Louis Park that all
related to the school distnct. He believed the information was overlapping and didn't
understand why they spent so much money on this.
Mayor Jacobs replied that the City of St. Louis Park puts out the Park Perspective, on a
quarterly basis pertaining to things happening in town There may also be special
mailings having to do with special projects The Lenox is community education which is
separate. There are also private entities that may send information as well.
It was motioned by Councilmember Sanger, seconded by Councilmember Omodt, to
adopt Resolution No. 04-118 in support of the Independent School District#283
Operating Levy Renewal and Bond Referendum.
The motion passed 7-0.
8b. Request by Stonebridge Development and Acquisition, LLC. for approval of
a Planned Unit Development (PUD) for a residential senior housing cooperative
known as Aquila Commons Case Nos. 04-24-PUD. 8200 33rd Street West
Resolution No. 04-119
Ms. McGonigal presented the staff report.
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Ron Mehl, Stonebndge Development, described the previous plan. Through numerous
meetings with the neighborhood, they came up with a new site plan. There were
concerns from residents of the single-family homes that the building would be very close
to them and people could potentially look into their backyards. The other concern was
from the condominium owners at Windemere Condominiums about the four-story
section. They also heard from neighbors who had concerns about the building height
from the other side of 35. They tried to make revisions to the plans to address those
concerns. They turned the building and on the end by the single-family homes, there
would be no decks. In an attempt to help with concerns from some of the Windemere
Condominium residents, they removed the fourth story section. The only four-story
section was along the back. It allowed them to create an open area in the center and
garden plots. There was 1:1 underground parking and a lot for guests and visitors.
Traditionally senior co-ops didn't have parking problems.
Gary Tushie, Tushie Montgomery Architects, reviewed the building elevations. An
additional issue that came up that they were able to resolve with the two single-family
homes closest to the building. They measured the garages and distance from the building
and determined that two additional trees in their yard would help buffer the view. He
showed a photo indicating the actual size of the trees that they would be planting.
Councilmember Santa indicated that the traffic study done by SRF was done with the
assumption of 122 units, was that correct? Ms McGonigal replied that was correct, but
the numbers that she showed in the presentation were for 110 units.
Councilmember Santa asked about the colors of the materials they would be using and
the height of the buildings? Mr. Tushie replied that they would be using a brownish-red
brick. The siding would be tan, it would be a little bit darker taupe color on the shakes
The stone in the center was a natural stone color with white trim and brown shingles
The buildings would be three-story and 33' to the parapet and 44' on the four-story.
Councilmember Finkelstein complimented the people who had worked long and hard on
this project including the staff that went to a lot of neighborhood meetings, the
developers that kept an open mind and kept coming back to the table and meeting with
the neighbors, the neighborhood associations including all of the affected neighbors and
Councilmember Santa who attended virtually all of those meetings and worked very hard
on this. When everyone worked together, you could see the results. He was hopeful that
future developments, like Al's on Excelsior, and other proposed projects would take a
lesson from this on what happens when everyone works together This was exactly the
type of use they were looking for in this area, in terms of being a much lighter use than
would be seen if they put in just another condominium. Many of the neighbors supported
it. It followed and supported the goals of providing more housing in the neighborhood
and in the City of St Louis Park and also provided moderate housing for seniors both
now and in the future.
It was motioned by Councilmember Finkelstein, seconded by Councilmember Santa, to
approve Resolution No. 04-119 for a PUD for the property at 8200 33rd Street W. to
allow a senior housing co-operative building.
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Councilmember Sanger clarified that she would be opposing this motion, but it was not
really because of the site plan for the PUD, it was for the reasons that she had previously
stated dealing with TIF financing and her disagreements with the limited equity co-op.
Councilmember Omodt thanked Mr. Mehl and his group for bearing with them through
the process. What they started with and what they ended up with were two different
things. This seemed like a reasonable compromise and was better off than what they had
Gene Storman, 3200 Virginia Av., stated that residents at Windemere were still
concerned and disappointed that they hadn't been shown the courtesy of getting a simple
question answered. There concern had always been loading Virginia with traffic. 33rd
Street has a stoplight on Texas and would seem to be a natural. No one had given him a
logical reason. The architect stated when the Planning Commission approved this that
was their first design solution. Traffic could enter on the end of any wing the way the
underground parking was set up He thought it would benefit the project to go onto 33rd
Ms. McGonigal replied that part of the idea was to split the traffic to have the
underground parking come in from one side and the visitor parking come in from the
other side. That way it distributed traffic throughout the area. The numbers shown for
trips in and out were very minimal.
Mr. Harmening noted another reason that an access point onto Virginia Avenue wouldn't
be different than what had been there in the past was that there had been an access from
Virginia Avenue in the past to the Talmud Torah site This was maintaining an access to
the property that had existed before
Mr Storman stated when the school was in operation there would be times when Virginia
from 32"d to the cul-de-sac was packed with parents waiting to get in and out.
Mayor Jacobs indicated that they wouldn't see anything like that here Over the course of
12 hours with 383 tnps, that was about 30-32 trips an hour.
Councilmember Velick believed there would be far less traffic on Virginia than there ever
was when Talmud Torah was a school. The traffic study would explain that. She went
there with three children and knew of the back ups and believed this would be a lot less.
Mr. Storman asked that if the traffic study proved to be wrong, that they stipulate in the
approval that the stop light on 33rd would be either moved to 32°d or there would be
another stop sign added. Nobody knew why the stoplight was there. Traffic staff had
recommended it be removed. Mayor Jacobs noted that the neighborhood was very
concerned and very much opposed to removing it.
Councilmember Santa indicated that stoplight had been there for many years and 33rd had
become a sidewalk extension between Aquila Park and the Oak Hill park and those
recreational areas and was part of the trail network. Neighbors on both sides of Texas really
opposed the removal of that stoplight, not only because of the bamer that Texas was
perceived for pedestrians, but also because it was a major bus route If you take the bus, at
least once a day you will have to cross Texas either to catch your bus or to get home. Having
Stonebridge support and assistance maintaining that traffic light was in tune with having a
senior project where many of the residents could be expected to use public transportation
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Mr Stormari noted he was convinced that the traffic light would stay, regardless of
recommendations from the Traffic Department. His point was why not give the new co-
op owners a better way of getting onto Texas. He didn't see the rationale of dumping
everything onto a dead-end street, and hadn't heard the rationale from Planning.
Mr. Harmening believed that they tried to answer the question. What they were trying to
do was to create a site that disseminated the traffic in more than one direction. Part of the
traffic was moved to 33`d Street and part of the traffic was moved to Virginia It was a
matter of splitting the traffic up so it wasn't all going onto one street and intersection
Another reason for the design was that it made sense from a site planning perspective and
from the perspective of the grade and topography of the project. Lastly, having an access
from Virginia to this site was not unusual There had been an access to this site in the
past, apparently Virginia was very busy when there was a school use on the site. They
didn't see anything like that happening with this particular proposal, and it had been
verified by the traffic consultant. The AM and PM trip counts were very nominal given
that this was a senior housing co-op and not a market rate housing project. All of those
reasons combined led to their comfort with this layout. It was a public street and the
property had a right to access that street, provided there were no negative consequences
or impacts to how the intersections worked near this site and how the street worked.
From everything they had obtained from the consultants, it would work just fine. He was
hard pressed to find a reason not to allow access to the street.
Mr. Storman thought if there was an interest to try to even it up, there would be a garage
access off of Virginia and off of 33`d into the underground parking. The developer said that
there experience had been between .75 and 1.25 cars per unit for this type of elderly
housing They were high on the surface parking. He didn't know how many staff and
visitors would be at the building, but didn't believe all of the surface parking would be used
Mayor Jacobs understood the concerns from Windemere that most of the traffic would
exit onto Virginia, but when it was a school it was a great deal worse It hadn't been used
as a school for a couple of years and the residents had gotten used to that and had the
perception that the low levels of traffic, because it was not being used, was the normal
way the site had been used, when in fact it was very high at times. As a senior building,
most of the traffic would go in and out of the building between the hours of 9 AM and 4
PM. The speeds were likely to be lower, the trips were likely to be much fewer than it
would be at a market rate building. He heard what they were saying, but was not
convinced there would be a problem putting the parking there.
Mr Storman asked if they would be willing to consider some changes if the traffic study
turned out to be incorrect'? Councilmember Santa thought it was fair to say that with as
much activity on Texas, no one could predict the future, nor could they say that they were
going to do one thing or another when they didn't know what the future would bring.
Knollwood would be making changes that may or may not increase traffic on Texas. To
say that they would not be watching the traffic on Texas would be foolish They will
always be looking back at the traffic studies. They had traffic studies projecting out 2-10
years. As uses are added and subtracted,Texas will always be a busy street and they
were going to have to keep an eye on it.
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Mr. Storman stated they were not asking anyone to predict the future traffic at that
intersection, they were Just saying if the traffic study proved incorrect. That could be
verified by future traffic counts.
Commissioner Finkelstein stated that he thought the Council understood the position of
Windemere Condominium Association and that they wished to look at this situation in
the future, but he thought they had gone over it and understood their concern. They also
understood that they would have to watch the traffic on Texas. There was a motion on
the floor and he called the question
Mayor Jacobs noted there were a few others wanting to speak.
Bill Watson, 3200 Virginia Av., indicated when Talmud Torah was in operation they had
access to their parking lot from both 33rd and Virginia There weren't that many cars
through there all the time, but there were times when there were 20-30 cars tied up and
they had complete gridlock on Virginia Avenue. Having an exit from the garage out to
33rd would be more practical as far as the amount of cars If they had 20-30 cars coming
in from Virginia to pick up or drop off students and there was gridlock, what would
happen when 100 cars had only one way in and out of the garage?
Mayor Jacobs replied that they were talking about the difference between a senior co-op
housing development and a school, which were very different uses. He always took traffic
studies with a grain of salt, but if he believed that all 110 of those cars were going to come
out of the parking lot at the same time, he couldn't possibly vote for this. He could not
imagine that would happen. The traffic studies don't bear that out and practicality did not
bear that out. He understood the concern that they would end up with gridlock on Virginia
Avenue, but he didn't believe that would happen because they were two very different uses
Mr. Tushie stated that they had gone over this at Planning Commission and neighborhood
meetings with the condominium association and the Traffic Engineer. What she [the
traffic engineer] was responding to was Engineering's request for the access to be on
Virginia and to see if in fact dispersing the traffic in two different locations was better
than it all coming onto 33`d. The traffic study showed that traffic coming out from the
garage onto Virginia had several different options as to where to go rather than Just one
route exiting They could take city roads to Minnetonka Boulevard or go back to Texas
Avenue. There were more options for them exiting the site which was good for traffic
dispersal so it wasn't all going in one location. When the Engineer was asked by one of
the condominium owners what the traffic impact was, she said that the traffic counts were
so minor she couldn't calculate the impact on the existing roads.
Mayor Jacobs asked if that was based on the fact that this was a senior development
versus other kinds of developments? Mr. Tushie replied yes, there were engineering
numbers and calculations used in traffic studies all over the country and updated every
year. The counts were substantially less than what the school was generating
Mr Watson stated that all of that traffic, regardless of whether it was going to Minnetonka
Blvd, Texas Av., or wherever, every bit of it must use that section of Virginia between 32°d
and the cul-de-sac. All of these people wouldn't necessarily be retired. Seniors are 55 and
up and there was a good possibility many people would still be working and there would be
more traffic because of that. They didn't feel that had been fully evaluated and that an exit
from the garage out to 33`d would be a big help in that area.
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Mr. Tushie stated that the average age in a co-op building was around 70 to 75 years old
Richard Thies, 3236 Texas, indicated he was one of the six residents that lived on the East
side of the complex. He thanked Councilmember Santa for listening to the neighborhood
and giving them ideas on what to do to make this work for everyone. When this idea came
up, he was opposed. They had numerous neighborhood meetings and the newest proposal
came from listening to people that lived in those six homes. Through the use of unique
landscaping and the latest proposal, he believed it was a good plan.
The motion passed 6-1, with Councilmember Sanger opposed.
9. Communications
Mayor Jacobs thanked the organizers of the Susan Lindgren walkathon and the Hero Day event
at the Junior High School. There were parents, school administrators and kids involved and he
apologized that he wasn't there
10. Adjournment
The meeting adjourned at 8:30 p m. (—
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