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PARK CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION
December 8, 2003
The meeting convened at 7:06 p.m.
Present at the meeting were Councilmembers John Basill, Jim Brimeyer, Paul Omodt, Susan
Sanger, Sue Santa, Sally Velick, and Mayor Jeff Jacobs.
Staff present: Human Resources Director(Ms. Gohman); Economic Development Coordinator
(Mr. Hunt); Planning and Zoning Supervisor(Ms. Jeremiah); Planning Coordinator(Ms.
Erickson); and Recording Secretary(Ms. Samson).
Mr. Harmening, Community Development Director/Acting City Manager,joined the Study
Session after the discussion regarding the City Manager Interview Process.
Others present: Ron Mehl, Stonebridge Development&Acquisition, LLC; Mr. Anderson from
Anderson Builders; Bill Greg, consultant from ENSR; and Stephen Bubul, EDA Counsel from
Kennedy& Graven. Mr. Bubul arrived at 9:43 p.m.
1. City Manager Interview Process
Ms. Gohman reported that the City Manager Profile has been completed, and she distributed
copies to the Council. Councilmembers also received a copy of Minnesota Statute 43A
regarding salary caps. Ms. Gohman provided guidance on how the Council might want to
proceed with the interview process to interview Mr. Harmening for the City Manager position.
Ms. Gohman offered that Mr. Harmening could be interviewed by department heads in two small
groups. Ms. Gohman said she would provide written information from the departmental head
interviews to the Council.
Councilmember Santa said she likes the idea of dialogue between the department heads and the
candidate but not an interview per se. Councilmember Sanger raised concern regarding
employees interviewing a potential boss. Ms. Gohman responded that Mr. Harmening could
outline his background and experiences for the department heads, and she would ask interview
participants for concerns.
Councilmember Brimeyer said such an interview process would allow people to be a part of the
process. Mayor Jacobs commented that it would be a good team approach. Councilmember
Basill said he likes the idea of having department heads interview Mr. Harmening.
Ms. Gohman summarized that the interview process will include the department heads, and she
will provide the Council with information from those interviews. Councilmember Brimeyer said
that the interview questions should be tied to the profile. Councilmember Basill suggested there
be no time limit set. Councilmember Sanger inquired about orchestrating the interview
questions. Councilmember Brimeyer described his experience interviewing candidates for city
manager positions, and he suggested asking questions regarding scenarios. Councilmember
Brimeyer would like to have an evaluation form provided to the Councilmembers for use during
the interview. It was noted that Councilmember-elect Phillip Finkelstein will attend the
interview.
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It was decided that the City Council will interview Mr. Harmening on Monday, December 22,
2003 at 6:00 p.m. Ms. Gohman said notice will be published regarding Mr. Harmening's
interview.
(Note: Items 3 and 4 were discussed prior to Item 2).
2. Indemnity Agreement with Oak Hill 3501 LLC/Anderson Builders relative to
Purchase Contract for 3501 Louisiana Avenue
Mr. Greg provided some background information on the connection between himself, ENSR,
and the Reilly site and its history. Mr. Greg discussed the Reilly Tar Consent Decree. The
minimum life of the Consent Decree is 30 years.
Mr. Bubul reported that in the indemnification language, the City shall indemnify Anderson
Builders, etc., up to the caps. Mr. Bubul stated that for the City to proceed or not to proceed, the
liabilities are about the same amount just different. In regard to the liability issue, Mr. Bubul
contrasted the currently exposed contaminated dirt on the Reilly site versus a building being built
and people occupying it.
Councilmember Basill wants to be certain that Anderson Builders cannot come after the City; he
wants Anderson Builders to be a true partner. Councilmember Sanger agrees with
Councilmember Basill.
Councilmember Sanger suggested that Anderson Builders pay a deductible for liability above
two million dollars. Mr. Bubul said there is a single tort cap. Mr. Anderson said he does not
have the money for the CERCLA cap, that insurance would be prohibitive. Mr. Anderson said
he is getting information on environmental insurance, and he stated that he does not want to take
on CERCLA liability. It was stated that the venting requirement would be honored as stated by
the MPCA.
After tonight's discussion Councilmembers Basill and Sanger, and Mayor Jacobs are more
comfortable with the liability issue. Council will move forward with this item. Mr. Harmening
stated that this item must appear on the agenda for December 15, 2003.
3. Stonebridge DevelopmentâPreliminary Application for Tax Increment Financing
Assistance for a proposed Senior Cooperative Housing redevelopment project on the
former Talmud Torah school property
Mr. Hunt said this is a preliminary discussion to determine if Council would like to move
forward with this proposal. Mr. Hunt said this project would require a Comprehensive Plan
amendment. The Redeveloper has provided a preliminary sources and use estimate for the
project in its Preliminary TIF Application, and the total dollar amount is $23,215,050, to be paid
in nine years. Mr. Hunt said the EDA's financial consultant, Ehlers &Associates, reviewed the
Redeveloper's pro forma and did not raise any concerns, i.e., they see no serious issues as the
project is stated.
Councilmember Santa commented that the traffic light at 33rd and Texas Avenue is problematic,
and she has traffic concerns regarding pedestrians walking on sidewalks. In regard to Texas and
Virginia Avenues, safety is a huge concern.
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Councilmember Santa inquired about how to deal with open space and the Water District. Mr.
Hunt said the Redeveloper has yet to contact the Water District. A Stonebridge representative
said a traffic study could be conducted.
Mayor Jacobs said neighborhood meetings would be required; at this time, it appears the project
would meet some of the City's housing goals, i.e., the option for seniors to purchase affordable
senior housing, and single-family, senior-owned homes may become available for resale to
younger families.
Councilmember Sanger asked if all units in the proposed project are subject to being designated
as a limited liability coop, and the response from Stonebridge was yes. Councilmember Sanger
asked: What is the incentive for property owners to maintain their units?
Councilmember Velick commented that there are high monthly maintenance fees.
Mayor Jacobs asked if any studies have been done on this type of project. A Stonebridge
representative said there are only two such limited equity cooperative entities in the Twin Cities.
When Councilmember Sanger asked where goes the inherent value, the response was that the co-
op owns it.
Councilmember Basill is concerned about risk in the event that the co-op should be unsuccessful;
he asked what the developer's track record is in particular and limited equity co-ops in general.
The Council would like to have statistics on this type of project and the history of successes and
failures of a limited equity co-op.
Councilmember Sanger inquired about those property owners who may violate the co-op's by-
laws. Councilmember Velick said the concept is broad and more information is needed.
Councilmember Omodt asked: why TIF? Councilmember Basill commented that rental units
could be built without TIF.
Stonebridge representatives will gather and present the information Council has requested.
4. Usable Open Space Requirements
Ms. Erickson discussed usable open space requirements and the Planning Commission's
recommendations regarding text changes to the Zoning Code that would result in more consistent
standards. She said the Planning Commission recommended eliminating the definition for
usable open space and replace it with a definition for designed outdoor recreational area
(DORA). Ms. Jeremiah added that Staff could include an accessibility requirement.
Councilmember Sanger said the City must have clear definitions for developers. Ms. Jeremiah
said Staff would like to address quality and quantity.
Councilmember Sanger expressed concern regarding the reduction in the R-1, single-family
standard from 600 to 400 square feet.
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Mayor Jacobs wants people to have flexibility.
Ms. Jeremiah said Staff will be collecting information from Points of Sale, and additional
information from DORA (designed outdoor recreational area). Council asked Staff to return
with that information.
5. Adjournment
The meeting adjourned at 10:40 p.m.
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