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SAT LOUIS City Council Study Session
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October 14, 1996
The Study Session commenced at 7:00 p.m.
Present were Mayor Gail Dorfman and Councilmembers Jeff Jacobs, Sue Sanger, Jeff
Appelquist, Ron Latz, Robert Young and Jim Brimeyer.
Also present were the City Manager(Charlie Meyer), Deputy City Manager(Joanne Kutzler),
Director of Inspections (Ernie Petersen); Director of Parks& Rec (Cris Gears), Planning
Coordinator(Janet Jeremiah), Director of Community Development(Tom Harmening), Admin
Asst/City Clerk(Ms. Larsen), Housing Coordinator(Ms. Quarfot), Economic Development
Coordinator(Mr. Anderson), Director of Public Works (Mr. Rardin) and Personnel Officer(Mr._
Wysopal).
1. Council Policy Issues
Mayor Dorfman inquired regarding specific policy issues Councilmembers wished to address in
the near future. Jim Brimeyer informed the Council that he thought it would be a good idea to
look at the concept of 360° performance evaluations. He also expressed interest in developing a
policy for a Metro Fire Department where there would be fire departments in the four quadrants
of the metro area. Sue Sanger inquired about a Dial-a-Ride or internal transit system for St.
Louis Park. Robert Young wishes to study vibration measurements. Mayor Dorfman suggested
Council address the DNR Deer Research proposal.
2. NSP Substation
Jim Rhodes of NSP presented to Council a request for a permit to build a substation in St. Louis
Park. He presented a geographic report of the suggested location for the substation and informed
Council that NSP had reviewed several sites. After reviewing soil conditions, proximity to
neighborhoods and other factors,NSP believes that the location originally proposed is still the
most desirable. He invited Councilmembers to view other substations located in the west metro
area so that they would have a better idea of size and configuration of modern substations.
Councilmembers questioned why St. Louis Park needed a new substation. Mr. Rhodes explained
that a substation is a sort of"circuit breaker". Feeder lines are already in place to off-load the
power as it passes through. A new substation would provide reliability and reduce outages as St.
Louis Park's power needs increase as they are expected in the future. The St. Louis Park
position is key because this location is directly under a major transmission line. Building the
substation on the targeting property would eliminate the need for extra towers.
Tom Harmening gave a brief history of the substation issue. NSP was issued a permit to build on
the property in the mid-80's, but did not build at the time. Consequently, their permit expired
and the zoning ordinance was amended to include a setback greater than that which would allow
for a modern substation to be built on the site.
Robert Young expressed reluctance to allow for the substation at that location citing the fact that
Eliot View neighborhood was already "stressed"with other issues and asked if there were other
alternative locations to place the substation. Mr. Rhodes replied that other locations had poor
soil conditions or elevations and were not suitable for this project. Sue Sanger asked if there was
a direct correlation between the substation on one lot and the proposed playground on the other.
Mr. Rhodes said that there was a definite correlation in that NSP need assurances that.one of the
sites would be available for the substation.
Mr. Meyer inquired as to the proposed time line for building. Mr. Rhodes indicated that they
would not even begin the project for another 4 - 5 years when needs are expected to become
more noticeable. He also stated that other locations outside St. Louis Park were unsuitable due
to development and restrictions placed by other communities. Jeff Appelquist asked how
exhaustive NSP's search for alternate locations had been. Mr. Rhodes offered to share a report
prepared in 1983.
After much discussion, Council requested Mr. Rhodes to bring this issue back to a future study
session with more complete information on the feasibility of choosing another site, pictures of
other substations in adjacent communities and site report.
3. Neighborhood Revitalization Commission Grants
Charlie Meyer informed Council that residents of Cobblecrest neighborhood have objected to the
use of City funds for a project they felt was endorsed by only some members of their community.
The Community Development Department and the Neighborhood Revitalization Commission
will be addressing this and other issues of this type in the very near future.
Yvette Mullen outlined the current process for making grant applications which is at this time
still identified as a"pilot"program. Staff and the Neighborhood Revitalization Commission
recognize that some modifications may need to be made in the grant application process.
Council discussed briefly each of the proposals included in the second round of funding
applications. There was some concern regarding the Westwood Hills application which had been
denied by the Neighborhood Revitalization Commission because they felt a computer program at
the Nature Center was not specifically oriented toward neighborhood connections, but rather, had
city-wide implications. Sally Vellick of the Westwood Hills neighborhood group explained to
Council that though their proposal would be a benefit to the entire community, the creation,
staffing, training and funding would be provided by members of the neighborhood association.
They felt that if the concerted efforts of neighbors could indeed benefit the entire community, it
should be considered as a positive element to their proposal rather than a detriment. After
discussion, Council agreed but felt reluctant to overturn the decision of the Neighborhood
Revitalization Commission because they felt it may negatively impact the relationship between
Council and Commission.
Widdy Shreves, Chair of the Neighborhood Revitalization Commission, stated that she felt the
Neighborhood Revitalization Commission would not have a problem with Council overturning
their decision and reiterated the point that this is indeed a pilot program and felt adjustments
would be made as the process continued to be evaluated. Council agreed to address the
Westwood Hills neighborhood proposal at their regular meeting of October 28.
The Neighborhood Revitalization Commission had also denied a funding request for the
Meadowbrook neighborhood playground based on the fact that their group was not yet fully
organized and therefore did not meet the basic criteria for acceptance of the proposal. They
agreed that the proposal is a worthy one and expressed their hopes that playground funding could
be obtained through alternative funding sources.
4. Twin Lakes Park
Cris Gears, Director of Parks and Recreation brought forward to Council a request by residents to
lower the elevation of the "hill"that had been created by dredged material extracted from the
lake. Neighbors feel this hill presents aesthetic and safety problems and is not what they had
expected based on preliminary discussions of park design.
At the time dredging took place, the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency (MPCA) had informed
the City that the cost of removing the dredged material would be approximately $1 million.
Under new MPCA rules, this material can now be buried or used under new projects (parking
lots, etc.) thereby reducing the cost of relocation to approximately $30,000. Sue Sanger asked
why this was a City problem and not a Watershed District problem. Mayor Dorfman replied that
she felt it was appropriate to approach the partnership for help in dealing with this situation.
After discussion staff was directed to explore and present to Council and neighbors alternatives
for removal of as much of the dredged material as possible, and designs for re-grading material
left in the park.
5. Charrette Update
Tom Harmening and Janet Jeremiah reported that grant money from the Metropolitan Council
had been received. They presented to Council a schedule of charrette activities and asked if
Council was comfortable with the format. Questions regarding process for including walk-ins,
staff and Council participation, number and composition of groups and role of the Design Team
and Facilitator were asked by Council members and addressed by Ms. Jeremiah. Council
expressed enthusiasm for the upcoming event and offered their full support to staff.
6. Rec Center Renaissance Contracts
Cris Gears, Bob DeGrote of STS and Don Hacked of Kraus Andersen Construction were present
to report to Council information regarding soil conditions at the Rec Center Renaissance Project
site. The landfill debris on the site through weather and shifts in soil is exposed in several places
at the surface and would have caused liabilities at the site regardless of the current project
underway. Soil containing the debris is being sifted, good dirt moved to other sites and materials
that will not decompose are being landfilled.
Discussion ensued as to how, with 25 soil borings in the area, problems with soil conditions
remained undetected until after digging began. Bob DeGrote responded that soil borings are not
100%accurate. Some problems were anticipated and consequently"add/deletes"were placed in
the contract.
Charlie Meyer indicated that soil conditions warrant creation of a new fund and TIF funds would
be available. Precedent has been set with numerous projects which require public funds for
environmental remediation.
7. Water/Sewer Line Ownership
Before discussion began Charlie Meyer cautioned Council and members of the audience to
refrain from commenting on pending litigation regarding this matter.
Mike Rardin pointed out attachments which give historical perspective to this issue. The City
now has the ability to spread assessments over several years which eases the burden of
assessment payment for homeowners. Mr. Rardin also submitted for Council review a
comparison of policies followed by other cities in the metro area.
Several Councilmembers questioned whether it was feasible for the City to take responsibility for
the sewer lines up to the stop box. If that were the case it could be marketed to the public as a
kind of"insurance" against future sewer line problems. Costs would conceivably be spread out
over the entire city as an addition to the water/sewer utility bill. An increase in utility bills of
approximately 5% would cover costs associated with the program. After discussion, Council
agreed that a program of this nature would only appeal to some residents and that costs related to
sewer line problems are considered by most residents to be an obligation of home ownership.
Therefore, Council's recommendation to staff was to continue the current policy related to
ownership of sewer lines and to initiate a program which would allow residents to make
payments over the course of several years on sewer assessments to their property.
8. Suburban Alliance
Wally Wysopal shared with Council the dissolution status of Suburban Alliance. Larger
members of the alliance have agreed to remain partners until all business is final. Hennepin
County is continuing to fund all programming costs in full. A Suburban Alliance staff person
plans to set up a work area in the St. Louis Park Police Department very soon. That person will
continue to work on all necessary business until the situation is fully resolved.
Meeting adjourned.
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p . Gail Dorfman, Mayor
Cindy Larsen, Recording Secretary