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CITY COUNCIL MEETING
ST. LOUIS PARK, MINNESOTA
August 21, 1995
1 Call to order
Mayor Hanks called the meeting to order at 7 30 p m
2. Presentations
Carrie Hughes, Westwood Nature Center, introduced the Junior Naturalists who received
Certificates of Appreciation from Mayor Hanks
Mayor Hanks awarded plaques to two former City employees. Gloria Morris for 30 years of
service and Firefighter Phil Minell for 20
Ken Vraa, President of the Minnesota Recreation and Parks Association, made a presentation to
the City for its Oak Hill Park Northern Lights Winter Wonderland. He also presented to the City a
1111 framed poster extolling the reasons and values of why parks and recreation are important to
communities
Charles Brown, Director of the Hennepin County Library, Eileen Hanson, Senior Librarian in St
Louis Park and Loren Dillard, Vice-president of the Hennepin County Library Board spoke to the
Council to tell them about the library and the various activities ongoing.
3 Roll call
The following Councilmembers were present at roll call Jeff Jacobs, George Haun, Sue Sanger,
Ron Latz, Robert Young and Gail Dorfman
Mayor Hanks welcomed Sue Sanger to her first official Council meeting as Ward 1
Councilmember
Also present were the City Manager(Mr Meyer); Deputy City Attorney(Ms Pace); Director of
Community Development (Mr Harmening), Director of Public Works (Mr Rardin), Director of
Parks and Recreation (Mr Gears) and Planning Coordinator (Ms Erickson)
4 Approval of minutes
It was moved by Councilmember Jacobs, seconded by Councilmember Dorfman, to approve the
minutes of the August 7, 1995 meeting The motion passed 6-0-1 (Councilmember Sanger
abstained)
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It was moved by Councilmember Haun, seconded by Councilmember Jacobs, to approve the
minutes of the August 14, 1995 study session The motion passed 6-0-1 (Councilmember Young
abstained)
5 Approval of agenda
It was moved by Councilmember Jacobs, seconded by Councilmember Haun, to approve the
consent agenda for August 21 The motion passed 7-0
It was moved by Councilmember Jacobs, seconded by Councilmember Dorfman, to approve the
consent agenda for August 21 The motion passed 7-0
PUBLIC HEARINGS
6a. Request of General Growth for a continued special permit for Knollwood Mall
Resolution 95-1041?
Alan Young, Manager of Knollwood Mall, was present He thanked Council and staff for their
efforts in this matter
Mr Hannening referenced the last page of the proposed resolution before Council and bnefly
described the amendments as they differed from the onginal resolution in the packet He said staff
is initiating an amendment to the Zoning Ordinance which will modify the way in which parking is
calculated for malls with enclosed common areas. Currently parking requirements cover the total
building, in this case, the change will require parking for the gross leasable area.
Mayor Hanks asked if the 2 proposed restaurants would have full liquor licenses and that
everyone understood they would have to apply for same to the City Council
Mr Young said it was his understanding one was beer/wine and one full liquor and that they were
aware license application must be made to the City Council
The following residents of the neighborhood bordering Knollwood spoke to express their
concerns about restaurants permitted to serve liquor. Grant and Michele Johnson, 3532 Zinran;
Diane Slice, 3529 Zinran, Rolf Peterson, 3536 Zinran
In answer to a question from Councilmember Latz, Mr Young said it is their anticipation,
because of the location of the proposed restaurants on the Hwy 7 side of the mall, that parking
will be provided on that side of the mall
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Mr. Harmening said the resolution to be adopted indicates that Knollwood cannot lease any
additional space which increases the parking demand above and beyond what was approved in
1991 To that end, they may have to leave space unleased until the new ordinance becomes
effective
Councilmember Latz asked where the restaurant entrances would be Mr Young said one would
use the main mall entrance next to Kohl's, the other would have both an in-mall and independent
outside entrance
Councilmember Latz asked how Knollwood expected the restaurants to help the mall as a
commercial entity in St Louis Park. Mr Young said that in a 1993 survey they conducted, 20%
of the respondents indicated they wanted a sit-down restaurant at Knollwood Mall As centers
have changed including Knollwood, they find they are becoming more and more family oriented
and they need to find a way to compete, on an entertainment level, to keep people at Knollwood
longer and make the shopping experience more complete
Mayor Hanks noted that the Oriental restaurant in the mall now serves beer and wine
Councilmember Latz said he was sensitive to the neighborhood concerns about liquor being
served at Knollwood and asked Mr Young about security Mr Young responded the mall uses a
contract security service as well as a consulting service who analyzes the daily log that is kept on
secunty incidents Security staffing levels are adjusted depending upon the incident levels. The
lighting system on the neighborhood side of the mall has been enhanced to better accommodate
establishments that are open later in the evening.
As leases are not signed, Mr Young was not able to name the two proposed restaurants He said
he would be available to anyone with a problem day or night and invited them to contact him in
such event
There being no one further wishing to speak, the Mayor closed the hearing with the right of
Council to thereafter reopen and continue it at a future date.
It was moved by Councilmember Latz, seconded by Councilmember Jacobs, to adopt Resolution
95-104 entitled "A resolution rescinding Resolution 91-194 adopted on Oct. 21, 1991 and
amending a continued special permit under Sections 14 8-6 4 and 14.5-5 3(D)(4) of the St. Louis
Park Ordinance Code relating to zoning to allow changes in the approved site plan and addition of
a restaurant with liquor for property located in a C-2 Commercial District at 8332 State Highway
No 7" incorporating the changes as presented by staff this evening.
The motion passed 7-0
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PETITIONS, REQUESTS, COMMUNICATIONS
None
RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES
8a Second reading of ordinance. Amendment to Zoning Ordinance - Amendments to
C-2 Zoning District
Ordinance 95-2037
Councilmember Sanger referenced subsection 0, pg 4, which would require public plaza open
space BE a minimum of 10% of the total ground floor building area, whereas in the Shopping
Center section under the 0 District, shopping centers are required to have 12% of the entire site
devoted to open space She asked for clarification.
Mr Harmening responded that the Office District itself, in terms of office uses, is required to set
aside 12% of the site area as open space That 12% provision was kept in place for shopping
centers or retail types of uses to ensure consistency in the Office Zoning District The difference in
this case is this is a Commercial C2 Zoning District and the open space provision was deemed to
be less critical and the provision wasn't as great
Councilmember Sanger's concern was that to the person on the street they're not going to be
concerned whether a particular plot of land has a C2 designation. They will be more concerned
about how the property impacts on the surrounding property. She felt it was a minimum amount
of open space being required and she would prefer the same minimum as required in shopping
centers in the 0 District.
Mr. Harmening responded that one possible explanation he would offer as to the difference is
the ordinance that staff has put together is very similar to zoning ordinances of other cities
relative to commercial types of development. He didn't believe it was inconsistent with other
cities and how they handle large scale commercial projects He noted that in the Honeywell
preliminary site plan, landscaped buffer areas, the ponding basins and the plaza areas accounts for
about 25% of the 41 acre site Perhaps it would be helpful for the ordinance to state that perhaps
12% of the site has to be in a non-impervious state, or public plaza type state That would provide
at least a minimum standard in the ordinance above and beyond the 10% of gross building area
To clarify a question from Mayor Hanks, Mr Harmening said the 12% standard in the Office
District does not include setback areas and buffer areas It is basically a park or public plaza type
of space, not a 40 foot setback that might be required between uses. In the Honeywell situation,
25% of the site, or roughly 10 acres, would be made up of open spaces as shown on the current
site plan This is a difference from the Office District
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Councilmember Dorfman asked if it were changed to not being 10% of the total ground floor
building area but to 12% of the entire site, would setback requirements be changed, actually
minimizing the total space to be landscaped and buffered
Mr. Harmening responded he would not recommend that the 10% of gross building public plaza
area be eliminated What he is suggesting is that there be some other minimum standard in the
zoning district which says that regardless of that, 12% of the site needs to be green The
ordinance as it's written does allow the Council, through the PUD process, to impose other
additional requirements which it deems appropriate based upon the circumstances of the project.
So, there are other leverages in the ordinance now which provide the Council means by which to
negotiate the open space requirements in a project even if the 12% standard was not in place
It was moved by Councilmember Haun, seconded by Councilmember Jacobs, to adopt Ordinance
95-2037 entitled "An ordinance amending City Code Section 14 5-3 2 Land Use Descriptions, 14-
5-5 3 "C-2" Commercial District, 14 6-7 2 Planned Unit Development (PUD) application, 14 6-
7 4 PUD modifications, and 14.6-7,5 PUD submission requirements and procedure to amend the
shopping center description, prohibit shopping centers over 200,000 square feet as a use
permitted with conditions in the"C-2" District, allow additional requirements for PUD projects,
reference the "C-2" shopping center conditions in the PUD Ordinance and'include reimbursement
for City costs in the PUD ordinance "
The motion passed 7-0
8b Resolution authorizing application for Mighty Ducks funds
Resolution 95-105
It was moved by Councilmember Jacobs, seconded by Councilmember Haun, to adopt Resolution
95-105 entitled "Resolution authonzing filing of application and execution of agreement to
construct a sports facility under the provisions of the State Capital Bonding Fund."
Councilmember Haun said it was his understanding the City must apply even if there is no
guarantee the project will go forward If the funding was awarded to the City, it would have to go
through the usual process If no project is developed, funds would be released to some other
government agency
Mr Gears said the resolution authorizes the City to apply and that Councilmember Haun's
comments were correct
The motion passed 7-0
REPORTS FROM OFFICERS, BOARDS, COMMITTEES
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9a. Authorization to acquire right-of-way for the W 38th St/Excelsior Blvd/Monterey
Dr traffic signal system either by purchase or eminent domain
Resolution 95-106
It was moved by Councilmember Haun, seconded by Councilmember Dorfman, to adopt
Resolution 95-106 entitled "Resolution authorizing the acquisition of certain properties by
purchase or eminent domain."
Councilmember Haun said he had talked to the property owners and it seems like the City is at a
deadend. He believed this project to be for the good of the whole community, and would not like
to see it not completed just because one or two property owners are opposed
The motion passed 7-0
9b Minutes Human Rights Commission July 19
9c Minutes Parks & Recreation Commission July 12
9d. Minutes. Board of Zoning Appeals May 25
9e. Minutes: Planning Commission August 2
9f Minutes. Housing Authority July 11
9g. Minutes Neighborhood Revitalization Commission July 13
9h July financial report
Items 9b-9h ordered filed by consent.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
10a. Boards and commissions
The letter from Sue Sanger resigning from the Planning Commission was accepted and staff
directed to send her an appropriate letter of thanks for her service on a motion by Councilmember
Jacobs, seconded by Councilmember Dorfman which passed 7-0
The following appointments were made on a motion by Councilmember Jacobs, seconded by
Councilmember Dorfman which passed 7-0 Chns McLinn to the Planning Commission, Tonia
Wolfson to the Neighborhood Revitalization Commission; and Terry Reitan to the Human Rights
Commission.
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I' 10b Halley Custom Homes Conditional Use Permit to fill
To clarify what the fill permit is for, Mr Harmening said the Conditional Use Permit is being
issued to allow filling on the two lots, not including Lot K
Councilmember Sanger had concerns about the proposal, amongst which was that Council was
being asked to adopt a resolution which would grant the fill permit prior to the decision of the
Board of Water and Soil Resources to uphold or overturn the Watershed District's decision Also
a number of contingencies have been placed on the fill permit and it would be her preference that
any decision of the Council be delayed until after the conditions are satisfied including receipt of
the decision from BWSR Board.
It was moved by Councilmember Sanger, seconded by Councilmember Dorfman, to defer any
decision until such time as the decision is rendered and the contingencies have been satisfied
Mayor Hanks asked if an appeal had been filed with BWSR
Ms. Pace said that on June 22 a citizen appealed the Watershed District's issuance of the permit.
She said BWSR was scheduled to meet August 24 to hold a pre-heanng conference to establish a
briefing schedule for the appeal.
Councilmember Jacobs asked what the typical length of time is for an appeal and where does it go
from BWSR
Ms. Pace responded she did not have the information with her tonight. She assumed it could go
next to District Court; however, it could be referred back to the Watershed Distnct as well
Councilmember Dorfman asked if there was a landscape plan showing how many trees would be
removed
Mr Harmening said the developer is currently working with Ms. Erickson on a landscape plan.
Individuals from the audience also spoke Fred Zieman, 4105 So Cedar Lake Rd., Susan Bay,
2145 Glenhurst Rd , Lynn Levine, 1941 Ewing Ave. So , Lynn Carper, 4010 Highway Rd. and
Gary Wardell, 4510 Vallacher Ave
Councilmember Dorfman said she received a call from Judy Kahn who filed the appeal She
indicated the issues she raised in the petition were real issues, not delaying tactics
Michael Halley felt the issue was whether the City wanted to own the lots, which was fine with
him. He briefly reviewed what has transpired with the Watershed District and the City of
Minneapolis It was his opinion that if the Council is not interested tonight in moving this
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forward indicates to him that the Council would prefer some sort of inverse condemnation on the
lots. If this is the case, why isn't that said to him directly so that his client's time is not wasted
Councilmember Young was confused -- it seemed to him it would be more than a two week
delay as nobody seems to know much about the BWSR Board and its processes He felt it could
be delayed for many months just by postponements The meeting on Thursday might not even
happen.
Ms Pace briefly described how the process works She said there was not a final decision because
of the lack of information submitted to the administrative agency in a timely manner by the citizen
group
Councilmember Dorfman was hesitant to approve at this point because of the 14 conditions, some
of which she felt were quite serious
Councilmember Sanger asked Mr. Halley if the Council did, in fact, grant approval tonight of the
resolution as written by staff, what action, if any, would he be intending to take in the near future
with respect to the two lots prior to the issuance of the BWSR final determination.
Mr Halley responded said their intention would be to finalize the landscape plan as well as
erosion control, etc. It was his understanding that if the Council acts tonight in his favor, he still
has to come back in two weeks for final approval. In fairness to him, he felt the City Attorney
should be directed to look into the BWSR situation because if it is a delay tactic, he shouldn't be
penalized and delayed any longer
Councilmember Sanger asked if Council came on Sept 5, what action would he intend to take
with respect to the property-- two weeks from now but before conclusion of the BWSR hearings.
Mr Halley said he was not going to do anything without a permit
Councilmember Jacobs asked is the permit the City would grant under those conditions still a
permit which would allow the applicant to fill in the event the BWSR Board has not been
finalized. Is it a good permit or is it not.
Ms Pace said as she interpreted the addition from staff, he could not As she understood it, the
City's CUP would be contingent upon BWSR reaching a decision with respect to the appeal, and
only then could work begin under the permit. Only then would she assume the Watershed
District's permit to be effective
Councilmember Jacobs did not want the Council getting quagmired in the discussion whether the
lawsuit between the parties is interposed for delay or whether the appeal to BWSR is interposed
for delay -- he'd rather move it along so there can be finality and people don't have to keep
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coming back before Council He said the City is not involved in the appeal to the BSWR Board
and he didn't want it to be
Councilmember Young agreed and would add that for some two months Council was prepared
for a vote, and then it was suggested the Council should see what the Watershed District does
about extra water on the street and whether or not we'd get their letter This delayed it another
two months. He wanted to vote it up or down tonight
Councilmember Dorfman said this was not dissimilar to the Honeywell matter where there were
delays and requests to get moving and ended up with a consensus and unanimous vote this
evening She didn't think two weeks was going to make or break the development
Councilmember Jacobs understood the motion had the potential of delaying action for more than
two weeks He thought the motion was a deferral until an decision comes down from the BWSR
Board.
Councilmember Sanger said that was the intent of her original motion She did not believe that
that proposal will delay the developer any more than the proposal that has been made by staff
tonight -- either way, the developer is not going to be allowed to lawfully put any fill on that
property until after the conclusion of the BSWR Board proceedings and affirm the Watershed
District determination was correct
Councilmember Haun said he thought he understood the motion as made by Councilmember
Sanger but also heard Councilmember Dorfman allude to a two-week process. He said he would
support two weeks, but he will not support something longer than that. Council will then know
more about BWSR's deliberations as well as have the City Attorney's opinion as to what the
Council should or should not do
Councilmember Dorfman asked Councilmember Sanger if she would accept an amendment to her
motion to defer the item for two weeks and bring back to the Council on Sept 5, 1995 where
Council can get answers to the legal questions raised and look at that time at which conditions
may or may not have been met.
This was acceptable to Councilmember Sanger
Ms Pace said there was an ordinance provision providing if legal work is over and above that
which is extraordinary, the City can seek reimbursement from the developer She felt it only right
to give Mr Halley fair warning if it is the Council's inclination to impose such reimbursement As
an option, she would be agreeable to Mr Halley's attorney doing the research
Mr. Halley said he would direct his attorney to do the legal research
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Mayor Hanks was not aware of that ordinance provision asked that staff bring to the next
Council meeting the rules and regulations for developers and attorney's fees.
The motion passed 5-2 (Councilmember Young, Mayor Hanks opposed)
NEW BUSINESS
11a. Selection of vendors. Playground equipment for Browndale, Carpenter and
Pennsylvania Parks
It was moved by Councilmember Jacobs, seconded by Councilmember Young, to select
Landscape Structures (Browndale and Carpenter Park) and Gametime Park and Playground
Equipment (Pennsylvania Park)
The motion passed 7-0
MISCELLANEOUS
12a. Damage claims James Pederson
By consent, claim referred to City Clerk and City Manager
12b. Communications from the Mayor
Mayor Hanks reminded all of Tuesday's Good Morning, St. Louis Park, at the Northwest Health
Club. On Wednesday, there is a hearing on the Livability Act at Minnetonka City Hall.
12c. Communications from the City Manager
Mr Meyer briefly described the items for the Aug. 28 study session agenda
He asked Tom Harmening to introduce David Anderson, recently hired Economic Development
Coordinator.
CLAIMS, APPROPRIATIONS, CONTRACT PAYMENTS
13a Vendor claims
By consent, claims approved and payment authorized in the following amounts Vendor claims.
$2,442,240 80 and payroll claims $64,535 27
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14. Adjournment
The meeting adjourned at 9 45 p m
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