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II CITY COUNCIL MEETING
ST. LOUIS PARK, MN
;, February 21, 1995
1. Call to order
Mayor Pro Tem Friedman called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
2. Presentations None
3. Roll call
The following Councilmembers were present at roll call: Jeff Jacobs, George Haun, Ron Latz,
Robert Young, Gail Dorfman and Allen Friedman.
Also present were the City Manager(Mr. Meyer);Deputy City Attorney(Ms. Pace); Director of
Community Development (Mr. Hagen); Director of Inspections (Mr. Petersen);Director of Public
Works (Mr. Rardin).
4. Approval of minutes
It was moved by Councilmember Jacobs, seconded by Councilmember Haun, to approve the
minutes of the February 6, 1995 City Council meeting with the following corrections: Ingbur
should be spelled Ingber; in 6a paragraph 3, delete"...although she did not have a problem with
this matter..."; item 9c, paragraph 3, add to Councilmember Latz's motion: include alternative
land use component to economic impact analysis.
The motion passed 6-0
It was moved by Councilmember Haun, seconded by Councilmember Jacobs, to approve the
minutes of the February 13 study session.
The motion passed 5-0-1 (Councilmember Young abstained).
5. Approval of agenda
It was moved by Councilmember Latz, seconded by Councilmember Dorfman, to approve the
consent agenda. The motion passed 6-0
It was moved by Councilmember Jacobs, seconded by Councilmember Dorfman to remove item
6c to the March 6, 1995 agenda and add item 8d. Keeping of non-domestic animals to this
evening's agenda. The motion passed 6-0.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
6a. Application of Jewish Community Center for temporary licenses(2) to sell intoxicating
liquor. May 13 and July 8
There being no one wishing to speak, the Mayor Pro Tem closed the hearing with the right of
Council to thereafter reopen and continue it at a future date.
It was moved by Councilmember Jacobs, seconded by Councilmember Latz, to authorize issuance
of the licenses as requested.
The motion passed 6-0.
6b. Zoning map amendment: R-4 Multiple Family Residential to C-Commercial at 1401
and 1405 Colorado Ave.
Marvin Johnson, brother of the applicant, was present to answer questions.
There being no one further wishing to speak, the Mayor Pro Tem closed the hearing with the right
of Council to thereafter reopen and continue it to a future date.
It was moved by Councilmember Young, seconded by Councilmember Jacobs, to approve first
reading, set second for March 6, 1995 and authorize summary publication.
The motion passed 6-0.
6c. Item continued to March 6 agenda
PETITIONS,REQUESTS, COMMUNICATIONS
7a. Appeal of variance denial: Sideyard setback(Steve Clausen.. 2720 Kipling Ave.Z
Steve Clausen was present to answer questions. Robert Weil, 2731 Kipling, a neighbor, spoke in
favor of the variance request.
Mr. Clausen explained they were seeking an addition to their home of a kitchen and other areas.
Basically the structure of the house does not allow an entrance without having to exit from the
garage.
It was moved by Councilmember Haun, seconded by Councilmember Jacobs, to reverse the
decision by the Board of Zoning Appeals and grant the variance and that a resolution of findings
be brought to the March 6 meeting.
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Councilmember Young asked for the rationale in overturning BOZA's decision Councilmember
Dorfman asked if other alternatives had been explored.
Mr. Clausen said the size of the garage would not allow both a car and steps necessary to get to
floor grade. He said the next door neighbor, the Cleins, had no objection to the proposed
construction.
The motion passed 5-1 (Councilmember Young opposed).
RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES
8a. First reading of ordinance amending gambling ordinance: American Legion
Mr. Meyer said the issue was that the Legion has had up to three permitees for licensed gambling
Since the gambling ordinance was changed, some of those licensees have discontinued their
operations. The Legion's concern is if the last organization licensed to do gambling presently also
expires, they will be precluded from being able to conduct gambling. Currently there is a
prohibition in the ordinance to conduct legal gambling within 200 feet of any residences, schools
or houses of worship Those organizations already in place were grandfathered in but not to be
replaced Two alternatives are presented- (1)to allow the Legion to have up to three premises
permits for legalized gambling which is what they had in 1990; and (2)to allow them to have at
least one licensee which they have today.
It was moved by Councilmember Jacobs, seconded by Councilmember Haun, to approve first
reading of the ordinance implementing Alternative A(retain 200 ft. prohibition and to allow the
American Legion however many premises permits existed in 1990 when the ordinance went into
effect to be grandfathered in at this time), set second for March 6, 1995 and authorize summary
publication ,
The motion passed 4-1-1 (Councilmembers Jacobs, Haun, Latz, Dorfman in favor, Mayor Pro
Tem Friedman opposed, Councilmember Young abstain).
8b. Second reading of ordinance amending the Zoning Ordinance: Treatment of bars
It was moved by Councilmember Haun, seconded by Councilmember Jacobs, to defer to March 6,
1995.
The motion passed 6-0.
Il 8c. Resolution releasing Letter of Credit: Monterey Park
Resolution 95-17
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It was moved by Councilmember Dorfman, seconded by Councilmember Jacobs, to adopt
Resolution 95-17 entitled"Resolution accepting public improvements for the Monterey Park
Subdivision and releasing Letter of Credit."
The motion passed 6-0.
8d. Second reading of ordinance relating to keeping of non-domestic animals
Ordinance No 95-2021
It was moved by Councilmember Jacobs, seconded by Councilmember Dorfman, to adopt
Ordinance 95-2021 entitled"An ordinance amending the St. Louis Park Municipal Code related
to the keeping of non-domesticated animals."
The motion passed 6-0.
REPORTS FROM OFFICERS,BOARDS, COMMITTEES
9a. Honeywell Comprehensive Plan amendment: Impact analysis and traffic consultant
Mayor Pro Tem Friedman recalled that the previous motion made by him when he was sitting as a
Councilmember, not Mayor Pro Tem, was to solicit proposals from consultants for an economic
impact analysis of the proposed use and for alternative uses on the neighborhood and community
retail centers.
Mr. Meyer said what was before Council this evening was two parts: (1)the traffic consultant
which was discussed at the February 6 Council meeting at which time no action was taken to
move forward with the traffic consultant to review the plans prepared by Ryan for the Honeywell
site; and (2) proposals to evaluate the impact of the proposed use of the Honeywell site for retail.
The proposals staff received today are to do the evaluation of the impact of the proposed
development but do not specifically include developing of alternative land uses other than that
proposed by Ryan.
Mayor Pro Tem asked why the element of alternative uses was not included in the proposals
before Council.
Mr. Meyer responded that when staff began to prepare the Request for Proposals to do this work,
there was conversation with the consultants about their ability to meet the timetable as set forth,
and what staff discovered was that the consultants didn't feel as though they could really do the
alternative uses element and do it in the timeframe set forth. Discussion was held with the Council
to deal with that problem at the February 13 study session about the approach that should be
taken in order to address the issue of alternative land uses. The consensus at the study session was
in terms of the formal proposal that was to go out for the economic impact analysis to limit that
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I,! portion of it to doing the impact analysis on the proposal that was before the Council, and that for
looking at alternative uses, that staff should continue to have discussion with Ryan Development
and evaluate some alternative uses in that context but not to give that over to the consultant if we
couldn't get it done in a timeframe that was outlined by the Council.
Mayor Pro Tern Friedman relinquished his seat and asked Councilmember Haun to sit for him as
he might want to make a motion and didn't feel it was appropriate for the Chair to do so.. He
didn't not feel it was right for the Chair to take part in this discussion. Councilmember Haun
agreed and sat as Mayor Pro Tern.
Councilmember Friedman asked the City Attorney if it were legal or within the context of the
Charter for the Council to take action at a study session. Is it legal or proper for staff to follow
direction taken at a study session instead of the motion as made at the Council meeting.
Ms. Pace responded since at a study session there is an indication of what the consensus of
Council would like staff to follow, they can't deliberately act inconsistent with that. In that case, it
would need to go to the Council for direction on specifically what they want to do -- if there were
not clear indication.
Councilmember Friedman said with the motion as it appeared in the February 6 minutes and then
the report going out asking for the consultant based on discussion at a study session, which
prevailed.
Ms. Pace said the minutes of the City Council meeting and of the study session appear
inconsistent. The way she would interpret the minutes of the Council meeting is that
Councilmember Friedman made a motion to look at the economic impact on the area and what
alternative uses are feasible for the area in conjunction with what is being proposed. She
understood that motion passed and she would therefore assume what is coming back for Council
action is a proposal that would consider both--the economic impact and alternative uses element.
Councilmember Friedman said the RFPs received from the consultants do not contain both. Mr.
Meyer said that was true.
Councilmember Friedman felt it proper his colleagues could have a different opinion at a different
time. However, he did not agree with the circumvention of proper procedure. In light of this and
the fact it couldn't be done on time, he moved that staff bring a report on alternative uses not in
concert with working with the developer. He asked that be given to the Council by Mr. Hagen as
well as being shared with the potential developer and to ascertain if the Council would be willing
to look at something else. What he would like to see is if it's feasible for the neighborhood to be
buffered on the western side of the Honeywell site with some high grade townhouses such as the
condos one can see north of I-394
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called Laurel Hill. He said he had some discussion with Ryan who is doing some work on this to
see if this is feasible
Councilmember Dorfman seconded the motion and added that her interpretation of what
transpired at the study session was that the intent was not to go against what the Council had
done at the Feb 6 meeting, rather to divide it into two pieces, i.e. proceed with half of the study
and still look at alternatives later It was her interpretation that it didn't have to be done at exactly
the same time with the same consulting firm.
Councilmember Jacobs would go along with what Councilmember Friedman outlined as long as it
doesn't present a catastrophic problem for the developer. He also wanted to point out at the study
session it was discussed if the larger, boader scale economic impact analysis was done it would
probably throw an insurmountable hurdle in front of the developer on this particular project and
Council didn't want to do that. He noted that it was the City Manager who pointed out the
inconsistency in what was discussed at the study session vs. what the Council passed on Feb. 6
asking if they were sure they wanted to do that His question to Ryan at this point was this going
to be insurmountable for them.
Bill McHale, Ryan Construction, said he was, as Councilmember Friedman noted, doing so
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research on some housing. Since he hasn't seen it, he can't respond to the comment about
information that Mr. Hagen has. He said he was led to believe that the RFPs were to come
forward today and that in discussing the timeline, several Councilmembers said they would be for
it if it could be done within a certain period of time. He said staff was recommending two of the
consultants, both of whom are good, legitimate companies, both willing to complete the study
within the timeline. He would be happy to do any other research as may be requested.
Ms. Pace wanted to clarify that what Council was dealing with was a proposed amendment to the
Comprehensive Plan which is a legislative decision of the Council based on policies as set forth in
the Comp Plan. With respect to a timetable, it was her understanding the project cannot move
forward unless there is such an amendment. She felt in Council's legislative capacity, whether or
not they choose to amend the Comp Plan, their analysis and consideration of that should not be
constrained by some arbitrary timetable that is not in the context of a permitted with conditions
use. She wouldn't be as concerned about the timetable, albeit the developer is, as making a
decision that gives Council the information it needs based on what the consultants may provide to
decide if it is in the best interests to amend the Comp Plan.
Councilmember Friedman said his interest here is firstly as the Ward Councilmember he wanted to
make sure the City gets the best possible development on this property. He was sensitive to
timetables for developers; on the other hand, timetables for residents who have bought property,
owned property and live there is fully as important. Consequently, his feeling was that he would
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like to work within the timetable of the developer, but only as long as it doesn't negate the rights
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He felt Ryan was a good developer, but the question is can the City have a better plan for the
property which may not be all that Ryan wants or wants to do there. Maybe the City and
developer will both have to give up something so that in the long run everybody has something of
which they can be proud.
Roxanne Savdee, 2110 Ridge Dr. and Gary Bersheid, 1604 Blackstone expressed their concerns
about the potential retail and Cedar Lake Rd. traffic as well as increased traffic through the
neighborhood.
Councilmember Haun said the options are somewhat limited because of zoning and there aren't a
lot of choices because of the City's Comp Plan. Councilmember Latz said the proposed study
would address such concerns.
Councilmembers Dorfman and Young noted the traffic impact study would address the concerns
expressed by the residents including a recommendation for a signal at Cedar Lake Rd. and
Zarthan.
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direction.
Councilmember Dorfman commented that the consultants can meet the timeframe that Ryan
would like to see the City meet and she asked Mr. Hagen how long it would take to have a report
before the Council in terms of looking at alternatives. Mr. Hagen responded that staff could
provide basic information on the concept of mixed use development. To adequately identify
alternative uses for the site would take approximately a month.
Councilmember Friedman would like the Council to be exposed to a mixed use development. If
he could get that out to the Council by next week so they can see what these kinds of
developments look like, then decisions can be made as to whether or not they want to go further.
The motion on the table, made by Councilmember Friedman, seconded by Councilmember
Dorfman, passed 6-0.
Mr. Meyer noted that on the traffic consultant item, a proposal was brought to the Council on
Feb. 6 with a specific recommendation to use Boonestroo, Rosene, Anderlik Assoc. Their
proposal included doing the traffic analysis as well as the alternative item Council had asked be in
there which was the impact of the eastbound third lane on I-394 and their total for doing both of
those pieces was $3300.
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It was moved by Councilmember Friedman, seconded by Councilmember Jacobs to award the
contract for services as described by Mr. Meyer to Boonestroo, Rosene, Anderlik Assoc.
Councilmember Latz said Council had received a letter from one of the other bidders that outlined
what they felt were some miscalculations by City staff re the cost which would have affected who
would have been the low bidder. He asked if staff had had an opportunity to review that letter to
check the figures to determine if Boonestroo was the lowest responsible bidder.
Mr. Hagen said the issue raised by one of the bidders, Benshoof, was that staff had indicated the
rate for the second person involved in the study would be $80/hr where actually it was $55/hr.
They were making the argument that the average rate for their firm would be less than the average
rate of the low bidder. Benshoof indicated it would take more hours to do the study, so even
though the rate was lower per hour on the average, we were looking at a much higher cost for the
total engagement. Staff continued to recommend award of the contract to Boonestroo.
In answer to a question from Councilmember Latz, Mr. Hagen said he felt was satisfied
Boonestro
can provide the professional services the City was seeking but would qualify it by saying that in
review of studies like this, there is always a possibility that the number of hours would exceed
what is contained in the proposal and that was why they asked for an hourly rate.
The motion passed 6-0.
Mr. Meyer said the third item, put together in fairly short order, brought forth four proposals
which Mr. Hagen has evaluated indicating the firms submitting proposals to do the economic
impact analysis and stating staff is most comfortable with two of the firms, the McComb Group
and Economic Research Corp. The more significant difference separating the two groups is that
the two recommended to Council have stronger planning components in addition to the planning
component. He felt either firm would be very capable of doing the work.
It was moved by Councilmember Friedman, seconded by Councilmember Jacobs, to accept the
proposal of Economic Research.
The motion passed 6-0.
Councilmember Haun hoped the City would continue its talks with Ryan in order to bring it to a
conclusion.
Councilmember Friedman asked for clarification. that Ryan does pay for the traffic study and how
about the other one.
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Mr. Meyer said the Zoning Ordinance provides that the developer is responsible for paying for the
costs necessary to evaluate the application. Staff considers both the traffic study and economic
impact study to be associated with reviewing the development proposal.
Ms. Pace said her office had reviewed that question in the context of an application for a land use
issue, not in the context of a Comp Plan amendment, two separate issues. She felt that in the
application for a Conditional Use Permit, the fees can be passed on. Taking a moment to research,
she found fees can be passed on for development proposals, conditional use permits,
Comprehensive Plan amendments, zoning amendments and enforcement
Mr. Friedman's knew there was some concern as to whether the developer feels comfortable with
the consultants. He was only concerned that the public might wonder why this was being done.
Councilmember Latz felt if both of the consultants were acceptable to Ryan, it was not likely the
City would be challenged at the end of the analysis on the basis that the consultant was
incompetent.
Mr. McHale referenced the traffic study noting part of the$3300 fee would be the City's as he
was not quite sure why Ryan would be studying I-394/Penn.
In response, Mr. Meyer said staff does believe the impact of the traffic eastbound on I-394 does
have an impact. There is an overlay ordiance covering this whole area and staff believes the whole
analysis of the traffic is subject to an Indirect Source Permit review on pollution impacts and the
intersection of I-394/Park Place/Xenia is part of the consideration. He didn't believe the impact of
the lane on I-394 was unrelated to this project.
9b. Minutes: Housing Authority. January 10
9c. Minutes: Neighborhood Revitalization Commission, January 11
9d. Minutes Planning Commission. February 1
9e. Minutes: Parks and Recreation Commission, January 11
9f. Minutes- Board of Zoning Appeals minutes. January 26
9g. Parks and Recreation Commission 1994 annual report
9h. January 1995 monthly financial report
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By consent, items 9b-9h received for filing
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UNFINISHED BUSINESS
No business.
NEW BUSINESS
11a. Contract extension: Quantera Environmental Services for laboratory services
in re Reilly Tar& Chemical Consent Decree
It was moved by Councilmember Latz, seconded by Councilmember Jacobs, to authorize
execution of contract extension with Quantera.
The motion passed 6-0.
11b. Bid tabulation: Purchase of pickups and trucks
Councilmember Dorfman noted the low bidder was Midway with the exception of the 2 1-ton
pickups which nobody bid on. She asked if Midway was given an opportunity to bid on the 3/4-
ton pickup.
Mr. Meyer said the specs were written the same way and it was the two bids from Superior and
Tousley that ended up taking an exception. Midway could have taken exception but apparently
choose not to.
It was moved by Councilmember Jacobs, seconded by Councilmember Haun, to authorize the
purchase as recommended by staff.
The motion passed 6-0.
MISCELLANEOUS
12a. Damage claims Debra Sands; Alvin Walder; Raymond Traylor; Joel Virtue
By consent, claims referred to City Clerk and City Manager.
12b Communications from Mayor Pro Tem
No communications.
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Mr. Meyer introduced Mike Rardin, new Director of Public Works.
He gave a brief update on the Remodeling Fair held February 19.
CLAIMS,APPROPRIATIONS, CONTRACT PAYMENTS
13a. Verified claims
By consent, the verified claims were approved and checks authorized to be distributed in the
following amounts: Vendor claims: $976,177.74 and payroll claims $31,884.85.
14. Adjournment
The meeting adjourned at 9:00 p.m.
Mayor Pro Tem Friedman
ecording Secretary
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