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MINUTES
ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING
ST. LOUIS PARK CITY COUNCIL
October 30, 1995
An administrative hearing relating to alleged liquor license violations. Classic Cafe
Mayor Hanks called the hearing to order at 7.00 p.m.
Councilmembers present were: SuesSanger, Ron Latz, Robert Young, Gail Dorfman.
Also present were the City Manager(Mr. Meyer); Chief of Police(Mr. Mitchell); Police Captain ,
(Mr. Walker), Police Officers (Mr Fraser; Mr. Fitzgerald; Mr Baumgartner; Mr. Pieper) and
Steve Gold, owner of the Classic Cafe
Mr. Meyer noted this was an administrative hearing to consider alleged violations of the St. Louis
Park Ordinance Code, Section 13-115 and Minnesota State Statutes 340A 415 having to do with
liquor sales to minors that occurred at the Classic Cafe on November 2, 1994 and December 1,
1994 He recommended that the format be that the Council consider the November 2 incident first
and then hold a separate hearing on the December 1 incident
He said the exhibits incorporated into the hearing and be part of the record include.
October 30, 1995 cover memorandum from the City Manager to the City Council,
A set of documents related to the November 2, 1994 incident including a memorandum from the
Police Chief outlining the events of the incident; a list of the costs incurred related to the
incident; a copy of the arrest report; a copy of a memorandum dated November 3, 1994 from
Police Chief Mitchell advising the City Manager and City Council about the alleged violation;
a copy of a statement taken by Sgt. Fitzgerald given by the minor involved in the incident; a
copy of the information related to the guilty plea entered on March 2, 1995 by the minor
involved, a copy of a memorandum dated May 11, 1995 from Police Chief Mitchell to the City
Manager and City Council advising that adjudication of this incident had been reached in
criminal court regarding the minor involved in the incident
A set of documents related to the December 1, 1994 incident that would be made part of the
record including a memorandum from Police Chief Mitchell outlining the events of December
1, 1994, a list of the costs incurred related to the incident; a copy of the arrest report; a copy
of the statement taken by Sgt. Roman given to the minor involved in the incident; a copy of
a memorandum dated Jan. 10, 1995 from Police Chief Mitchell advising the City Manager
and City Council of the alleged violation, a copy of the information related to the guilty
plea entered on April 3, 1995 by the minor involved in the incident; and a copy of a memo-
randum dated May 11, 1995 from Police Chief Mitchell to the City Manager and City
Council advising that adjudication of this incident had been reached in criminal court
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regarding the minor involved in this incident.
In addition, in relation to both incidents, he said there were a set of reports from the Police
Department related to false or fake identifications that had been confiscated by Classic employees
which the owner had turned over to the police and examples of written daily logs from Mr Gold
relating to his and his employees' efforts to document the use of false and/or fake identification
by underaged persons to gain entrance to the Classic.
He reminded all that this was not a judicial proceeding. The only concern in this hearing is relative
to the license that was issued by the City Council. He then suggested the procedure for
conducting the hearings. At the end of the hearings, both hearings be closed and the Council to
then deliberate and direct staff to prepare a resolution with findings for formal action at the
November 6, 1995 Council meeting
Capt. Walker presented the details of the November 2, 1994 incident.
Mr. Gold responded to Capt Walker's presentation. He said he was not told by anyone of either
of the incidents before Council this evening. He said that in May of 1994 he was told of a leak at
the front door of the Classic (individuals slipping in past the persons checking I.D.)He did not
believe there was a problem today at the Classic with ID checks as they have taken measures to
bring the May 1994 problem under control.
Capt. Walker presented the details of the December 1, 1994 incident.
Mr. Gold talked about the difficulty of checking IDs and that it is his intent not to permit
underage persons on the premises and he takes very seriously this responsibility.
Councilmember Dorfman asked what sort of communication the police have with bar owners
when incidents occur on their premises.
Capt. Walker responded the department does not routinely call up the owners to tell them of
incidents which have occurred.
Councilmember Latz asked what kind of training does Mr Gold give his employees so they can
differentiate between valid and false ID.
Mr. Gold said manuals are kept at the front desk which show all Minnesota drivers licenses.
Those plus Minnesota ID cards are what they look for to validate. They will only take other state
drivers licenses, no ID cards, and backup must be presented -- credit card, other cards with the
individual's name. He said nobody slips in any more as happened previously as he has 3 men at
the door checking ID
Councilmember Sanger asked Mr. Gold to describe the training given to his staff with respect to
checking IDs.
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Mr. Gold said he holds 2 staff meetings a month and they talk about ID, what to look for on false
IDs, study false identification that has been confiscated There is a calendar with the date at the
front door so everyone can know what the date is. Also, there is a list of rules posted at the front
door--No one under 21 admitted after 5.00, etc.
Mayor Hanks said the police department also offers training to owners of local establishments.
Mr. Gold said he had participated in that training as well.
Mayor Hanks closed both hearings and opened it up to the Council for discussion.
Councilmember Latz was pleased to see that the Classic has apparently brought the previous
problem under control He did feel a fine was appropriate for the two incidences being considered
and because of the need to set a precedent for appropriate penalties for any future offenses. He
felt an appropriate fine should at least cover the costs to the City for enforcing, i.e police officers,
investigative time, etc.
It was moved by Councilmember Latz, seconded by Councilmember Sanger, to impose a fine of
$750 per incident.
Councilmember Sanger assumed when enforcement costs were determined, it did not include the
six officers attending the hearing this evening And if so, she felt the figure of$750 should be
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Councilmember Young felt $1000 was too low considering the options available to Council
ranging from no action to revocation. He felt it difficult to assign a cost to the time involved in
this kind of matter He felt the full civil penalty of$2000 should be charged per violation.
Councilmember Dorfman had a problem putting a dollar amount on the incidents. She felt it
difficult to determine how serious an incident might be -- either it is in violation or it is not.
She concurred with Councilmember Young in setting a fine and that will be the fine that anybody
coming before Council would pay for this violation.
Mayor Hanks would not like it to be thought that if a bar owner was found guilty the fine would
be specific; rather, that each be individually determined on the facts. He would prefer a specific
number to be called a fine for an infraction rather than getting into the costs consideration One of
the reasons liquor licenses cost what they do is the expectation that there will be increased police
activity.
Councilmember Dorfman asked how guidelines or benchmarks could be drawn up since this was
the first time civil penalities can be imposed
Mayor Hanks felt each case had to be examined separately -- some infractions of the law are
more blatant than others
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Councilmember Sanger suggested something along the lines of, hypothetically, $1000 for the first
offense, second or subsequent offense $2000 and in addition the other potential penalty of
suspension/revocation/probation could be assessed based on the severity of the violation.
Councilmember Young asked Mr. Gold if a one-day closure of his business cost him more than
$2000.
Mr. Gold responsed the issue is closure not the cost. It is very bad for the morale of the
employees, for the owner's reputation, especially in light of the fact there was no intent on the
owner's part that this happen
Mayor Hanks was willing to give the benefit of the doubt that things have improved, although he
noted the two incidents under discussion were only a month apart.
Councilmember Latz offered as a substitute motion on the first incident to impose a $2000 fine,
stay $1000 of that amount for a period of one year on the condition no same or similar incidents
occur during that one year. Councilmember Dorfman seconded.
Mayor Hanks had a problem with the motion wherein there is now on the books for the Classic a
2-day abeyance holding over from January 3, 1995. He would prefer to see the blotter clean,
nothing held over.
Councilmember Sanger said she has some concerns that if there is part of a penalty held in
abeyance that it puts the Council in an akward position next time, if there were a next time.
Would it be construed that whatever is held in abeyance would be the only penalty that could be
imposed for any subsequent offense. She would not like Council to be constrained from imposing
something more severe if called for.
Councilmember Latz said that in criminal matters in the District Court, if someone is put on
probation and another offense occurs, they are subject to a new penalty as well as what remains in
abeyance. That would be his intent here.
Mr. Meyer asked that the motion be clarified so as to request staff to prepare a resolution with
findings, the findings be of a violation of the City's liquor licensing ordinance and State Statute
and then imposing the fine on top of that and to be placed on the November 6 Council agenda for
action. Also, he asked if the part held in abeyance ($1000) is held in abeyance for any incident
which occurs one year subsequent to this hearing.
Councilmember Latz said that was correct -- any incident of a minor found to have been
consuming alcohol at the Classic where the incident itself occurred within one year of the date of
final adoption of this civil sanction.
The motion passed 4-1 (Mayor Hanks opposed)
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It was moved by Councilmember Latz, seconded by Councilmember Dorfman with respect to the
December 1 incident, to impose a$2000 fine, stay$1000 for a period of one year on the condition
no same or similar incident occurs during that one year period.
The motion passed 4-1 (Mayor Hanks opposed).
Mayor Hanks adjourned the hearing at 8 30 p.m.
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