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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1988/07/11 - ADMIN - Minutes - City Council - Study Session r - 'Ill MINUTES CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION ST. LOUIS PARK, MINNESOTA ' July 11, 1988 1. Call to Order - The meeting was called to order at 6:30 p.m. by Mayor Lyle Hanks. 2. Roll Call The following members were present at roll call : Tom Duffy, Bruce Battaglia, David, Strand and Lyle Hanks. Also present were the Acting City Manager, Assistant to th,e City Manager, Director of Public Works and representatives from the 1600 block of. Princeton Ave. and Lake Forest neighborhood. The Director of Public Works described the process for achieving noise levels, that being noise monitoring. Meters were placed in three locations for a period of time. Staff analyzed the noise projections and found that the noise levels 411 ptured fell below the federal highway standards. He noted that the Minnesota llution Control Agency has its own standards and that those standards exceed e federal standards. Staff also noted that there was a need to look at variables and not just numbers. Those variables include projected traffic levels, the height of the highway, etc. The cost breakdown for the various alternatives was highlighted as follows: the proposal as presented, $433,600 which includes the purchase of property but deducts the original budgeted amount for the improvement to Quentin Ave. which is no longer needed and the sound barrier along Quentin Ave. which is no longer needed. The City property by the JCC was estimated at $698,240 plus the cost of property acquisition. The cost to divert the storm drainage to the north to Bassett Creek was estimated at $716,011 plus a lineal pipe and the cost to direct the storm sewer to Brownie Lake was estimated at $1 , 138,000 plus right of way. Councilmember Strand asked for the cost of a sound wall and where it would go. The Director responded the estimate is $150 per running foot and would start at approximately 1620 Princeton Ave. and continue east. Councilmember Strand asked whether or not MnDOT is committed to putting the sound wall in. The Director responded that it is in the plan. Councilmember Strand asked the Director the position of MnDOT when state standards exceed federal standards. Bill Crawford, a representative from MnDOT, responded hat the Minnesota law requires that they abide by federal criteria. ouncilmember Battaglia asked why there is a need for the holding pond in the 411/ evised plans. Mr. Crawford responded that the holding pond is nee:ed for the unoff of additional pavement and the need for sedimentation volume remains the same; however, the speed for that need changes. Dave Shdffer, a neighborhood representative, stated that there is more infringement Study session minutes July 11 , 1988 on the neighborhood as a whole to acquire those five homes and replace it with a drainage pond. He added it hurts more than it is helping. Councilmember Battaglia asked if there is no pond, then is it more expensive to construct a storm sewer. Mr. Crawford responded that was correct. Councilmember Strand asked as to the extensiveness of the landscaping plan. Bill Crawford responded that there are no dollars pinpointed as yet but he is prepared to be very generous. Councilmember Strand asked if there was any way to allocate money for the pond into landscaping. Mr. Crawford responded there was and the landscaping plan is under design and nearly completed. The Director of Public Works added that the City's landscape architect is working with the Minnesota Department of Transportation to review the plans. Bill Crawford said the state is willing to put up a fence to protect the safety of the neighborhood and added that they would be willing to put up any type of fence. Mayor Hanks asked whether the fence for the pond could be extended from 6 ft. to 10-14 ft. to serve virtually as a noise wall in a joint venture between the . City and state. Mr. Crawford responded that that would work. Bill Crawford also stated that it would be his recommendation for the City to maintain a holding pond through a cooperative agreement between the City and MnDOT. He felt that this would be in the best interests of the City. Mayor Hanks asked how interested the neighborhood is in the noise wall to protect the pond between the homes and pond. The neighborhood responded that the noise wall would have to be high enough. Mayor Hanks asked staff and MnDOT to look into that option as a joint effort to resolve both problems. Dave Shaffer stated that people have been bought out of their homes but that the homes could still stay. The City, state or HRA could do something innovative to retain the homes and direct the drainage to the north. Bill Crawford stated that the homes could be rented during construction and then sold after construction is completed. Mayor Hanks recommended the City look at the option of constructing the noise wall with landscaping and construct the pond and as a second option, to keep the homes and direct the stormwater to the north. Councilmember Battaglia asked whether a copy of the report would be distributed to the residents upon completion. The Mayor said he hoped to meet with the residents again prior to the completion of the report. Parkswoods area Mr. Wilinsky, 2354 Parkwoods, was present. The Director of Public Works stated III a noise analysis was done in his yard for a 24-hour period and the noise level was captured at 64 deciales. The State of Minnesota level reading was at 63.5 Study session minutes 4111 m y 11 , 1988 r virtually the same. The Director added that on average there are 98,000 vehicles er day traveling Hwy. 100. Mayor Hanks asked Bill Crawford if Hwy. 100 was looked upon as a state or federal road. Mr. Crawford responded he would have to get a verification of that. The Director stated that decible reading levels exceed the state standards but not federal standards. Mayor Hanks directed staff to inquire as to the status of the indirect source permit and identify whether the data Mr. W''ilinsky provided was reviewed during the approval process and could the board reconsider their decision. Organizational study of Planning/HRA Jim Mercer, the consultant for the organizational study, was present to review the goals/objectives, the methodology for the study, criteria for evaluation, observations and findings and the recommendations of the report. There being no further discussion, the meeting was adjourned at 9:40 p.m. men J. Kap n ecording Secretary