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CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION
ST. LOUIS PARK, MINNESOTA
February 13, 1984
1. Call to Order - The meeting was called to order at 6:30 p.m. by Mayor
Lyle an s.
2. Roll Call - The following Council members were present:
Ronald Backes Keith Meland
Thomas Duffy Larry Mitchell
Jerry Martin Richard Strohl
Lyle Hanks
Also present were the City Manager, Director of Public Works, Director
of Planning, Director of Parks b Recreation.
3. Revisions to the CSAH 5 and TH 7 Intersection - Craig Dawson, Admin-
istrative Assistant to the City Manager, presented a plaq proposed by
MnDOT that would redesign the CSAH 5 and TH 7 intersection. Revision
of the intersection construction of park and ride and municipal parking
lots, landscaping and streetlighting were among the elements included
in the proposed plan. Many residents from the Park Hill neighborhood
were in attendance.
Questions were raised about traffic counts taken, at this intersection.
Mr. Dawson said that MnDOT's 1980 count was 18,300 vehicles per day,
but that the volume projection in 2000 has been set at 32,000 vehicles.
Councilman Duffy requested that more recent traffic counts be obtained.
Many residents asked questions about traffic movements at Glenhurst and
CSAH 5 and Inglewood and CSAH 5. Many expressed concern that the proposed
plan would create new safety problems. Some business owners maintained
that under the proposed plan, their establishments would become less visible
and less accessible to their customers. In response to these questions,
Mr. Dawson explained that the design of the plan was intended to reduce
traffic that currently cuts through the neighborhood to France Ave. to
avoid the CSAH 5 and TH7 intersection. He said that many features of
the plan including the landscaping and the construction of new parking
lots would benefit businesses.
One resident asked about pedestrian access across TH 7. Mr. Dawson said
that access is available at TH7/Fr.but that providing access at Inglewood
Ave. could also be explored.
A business owner asked if the frontage roads would be built if the inter-
section revision plans were rejected. Mr. Dawson said that the frontage
roads would not be built since that improvement would have been MnDOT's
responsibility.
Residents asked if MnDOT was definitely going to make that improvement.
The City Manager saia that the City can tell MnDOT that we do not want
to change the intersection. The Director of Public Works added that MnDOT
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would want to make the signals at the intersection permanent if the City
decides not to approve the intersection improvements.
4. 1984-88 CIP - The Assistant to the City Manager reviewed several changes
that could ba -made to the 1984-88 CIP. She also responded to concerns
raised by the City Council during its Jan. 23 study session.
The Director of Public Works presented for possible sites for relocation
of the pedestrian bridge at Hwy. 100/W. 36th St. intersection, as
requested by Council at an earlier study session. These locations were W. 36th
St. east of Beltline Blvd.; across the BNRR tracks at Dakota Park, TH
7 at Texas Ave., TH 7 at Wooddale and County Rd. 18 at 16th St. The Director
of Public Works said that other options are allowing the contractor to
salvage the pedestrian bridge, in which case the City incurrs no expense
or retaining the bridge and selling it to another community. He has already
received inquiries from two interested communities.
Councilman Meland pointed out that the Council had made an earlier decision
to forego a pedestrian bridge at TH 7 and Wooddale. He asked what had
prompted this decision.
Councilman Backes said that tie pedestrian bridge at County Rd. 18 and 16th
St. had been a part of earlier CIPs.
The Director of Parks and Recreation said that a pedestrian bridge at
Dakota Park would give people living north of the BNRR tracks access to
a major City park. The Director of Public Works said that the distance
required to construct ramping to the bridge might pose an obstacle.
Council reached a consensus that the options should be narrowed to the
Dakota Park location and TH 7 at Wooddale Ave.
Councilman Martin asked what price other communities might pay for the
pedestrian bridge.
Next the Director of Public Works explained the Ottawa Ave. crossing proposed
in the 1985 CIP. There is no dedicated right-of-way for this project
which would connect Ottawa Ave. from TH 7 to Beltline Blvd. Council instruc-
ted staff to proceed with this project.
The Assistant to the City Manager discussed cash flow projections for
the State Aid Construction Fund. The fund is projected to be in a deficit
position by the end of 1984 due to land acquisition costs projected for
the Hwy. 100/W. 36th St. interchange and other improvements programmed
in the 1984 CIP. These different assumptions concerning when Louisiana
Ave. would be built were made in preparing the cash flow projections.
In each projection, 1985 was the year in which the greatest deficit occurred.
The Assistant to the City Manager said that it will probably be necessary
to issue bonds for this fund in 1985. She added that the City will need
to recognize the limits which have been placed on the use of this fund
for construction of our State Aid streets.
Finally, the Assistant to the City Manager highlighted significant improvements
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scheduled in the latter years of the CIP, including Beltline Blvd., TH 7 from
Lake St. to Quebec Ave., I-394 and the TH 7 Corridor Redevelopment projects.
5. Sign Ordinance - The Assistant to the City Manager gave a chronology
of activities re aced to the sign ordinance. She suggested that the 1979
proposed ordinance be used as a framework for developing signage regulations.
In order to use the proposed ordinance as a framework, all references
to billboards will need to be removed from it since Council adopted a
billboard ordinance last summer. The Assistant to the City Manager recommen-
ded that Council examine problem areas like temporary signs and regard
development of an ordinance as an opportunity to define the role that
signs should play in the urban landscape. She added that Council should
develop the sign ordinance at the same time that it amends the ordinance
which governs building regulations for signs. Coordination of these ordi-
nances is needed to guarantee consistency. The Assistant to the City
Manager noted that staff would be providing extensive documentation of
Council's deliberation on the sign ordinance in order to protect the validity
of the ordinance if it is ever challenged in court.
A slide presentation depicting both good and bad signage found in St.
Louis Park was provided. Issues addressed during the presentation included:
temporary signs, window signs, rooftop signs, signs in residential districts,
coordination of signs in multi -tenant buildings, calculating sign area
and the use of lighting, script lettering and architectural materials
consistent with the style of the building to which the sign is related.
Other sign ordinance issues that need to be explored concern sign maintenance,
amortization and the use of special permits.
Councilman Duffy said that he believed temporary signs were a problem.
Under current City ordinances, there is nothing that effectively limits
the duration of a temporary sign. He also pointed out that the sign industry
has made rather positive and significant changes in the past decade, especial-
ly with respect to the designs and materials used in signs.
Councilman Backes supported using the 1979 proposed sign ordinance as
a framework. He said that the Council had agreed to prohibitng new rooftop
Signs in 1983. He asked that Council look carefully at the areas and
heights contained in the table of the proposed ordinance.
6- Charter Commission proposed amendments - There was a consensus among
the COunCI mem ers a at -large ounce seats be designated thereby allowing
candidates to select the seat for which they would like to run. Staff
was asked to prepare an ordinance reflecting designation of the at -large
seats.
7• 1983 summary of City Prosecutor activities - Council reviewed the
summary,o t e ,ty rosecutor s activities an asked that this information
be distributed to any attorneys interested in it.
8 Adjournment - The meeting was adjourned at 9:35 P.M.
Sharon Klumpp, Recording SecrOeary