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JOINT CITY
Call to Order
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Conunissioner
at 8:45 p.m.
MINUTES
COUNCIL HOUSING
September 26,
A j oint
Housing
called
AUTHORITY
1978
MEETING
meeting of the City Council and
and Redevelopment Authority was
:o order by Mayor Stern at 8:13 p.m.
The following
roll call:
Councilmen were present at
Ronald Backes
Ly 1e Hanks
Kei th Me land
Irving
The f ollowing
were present
Housing
at roll
Heltzer arrived at 8:15 p.m.;
Martha Elstrom
Jerrold Martin
John Ralles
S tern
Authority
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Jane Tschida
Thomas Williams
Joel Glotter
Commi.s s ioners
Commissioner Moylan arrived
Also present were .the City Manager and the Executive Director.
3. Lanvesco Pro osal
The Executive Director expl.ained that Lanvesco
was issued a letter of intent for a 15elderl
con�regate apaztment building f or the y
� the receipt of additional
in July contingent upon
information including a more complete development plan.
ro osal requesting
Qn Sep tember 13, 19 78, Lanves co submitted � for sect ion 8 units, industrial
public acquisition of the proPerty, supPor
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' and a lease back of the land to the developer.
revenue bond�ng
anves c
the Cit received additional communicaeio�o osal and indus-
September 20, Y .
Section 8 funding is not necessary tO �lle pro ect feasible,
s tated that to make P
trial revenue bonding is not the only waY . ro ram funds
•� rent subsidies and p g
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h ' 1d as s is t in ob taining
owever it wou
for the project.
The Executive Director stated
acquisition of the property;
t.o reduce initial development
that there
�o provide
cos ts f or
would be two reasons
a write down f or the
th e developer.
�ar public
project and
Joint City Council Housing Authority minutes,
September 26, 1978; Page 2
Lanvesco Cor oration, s tated th at Section 8 was
Bill Schatzlein, P
'' 11 sought for the program elements of the congraghousin�ng
origlna y
aspec�s of the praject and was not ini:enaede��nedethat the Section
subsidy. He continued tha� it has been
8 rocess is very complicated so Lanvesco is.not purha�na tro�.mately
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option any longer. He stated that it is eS aevelo ment andp the
$5 million �aill be necessary for the total P
developer is seeking a close working relationship weSh the City to
determine financial figures and pro�ect feasibiliti
Councilman Hanks wondered if th is proposal is part of the overall
St. Louis Park housing program.
Mr. Schatzlein indicated that these units would be market rate hous ing
and there would only be an intra-subsidy on the morthegdeveloumenthwas
industrial revenue bonding process. He added that t P
not low income housing and would provide 100 units of elderly housing.
There would be independent one-bedroom apartment units with a service
package available to the residents to assist in day- to-day activities
such as shopping, medications, meal provision, etc. He stated that
the f acility would provide an alternative to nurs ing homes and cos ts
are very reasonable relative to that of nursing care. He continued
that there may be some ability to serve other elderly residents in
the City through meal programs, recreational programs, e tc. In response
to a question from Comm.i_ssioner Williams, Mr. Schatzlein indicated
that �here would be a rental fee only and no original investment
payment. He continued that industrial revenue bonding is being
sought because reasonable rents would not amortize the deb� service
with current interest rates for conventional financing. in addition,
the chances of obtaining HUD funding are slim and the elderly housing
complex does not meet St. Louis Park's hous ing goals. In respon5e to
several questions from Commissioner Heltzer, Mr. Schatzlein indicated
that a preliminary financial feasibility study has been completed by
the mortgage underwriter; however, only a preliminary review of community
demographics and need for this type of facility h ave been completed.
He indicated that he is waiting for further Council direction before
proceeding with an in depth market analysis.
Co�ni.ssioner Heltzer requested information relative to what City costs
would be necessary for food and boarding inspections.
In r_esponse to a question from Councilman Elstrom relative to the five
four plex b«ildings contained in the original concept proposal, `�r.
Schatz]_ein indicated that at this time, he was not sure if these
buildings would be included in the overall housing complex.
�o�nt City Council Housin g Authority minutes,
Septe�ber 26, �q 78 � page 3
Chairman Glotter stated that the Council and Authority must address
the philosophical issue as to whether
public financing tools should
he applied to th -Cs type of proj ect and inquired as to why Mr . Schatzlein
thought it was worthy of financial support.
Mr. Schatzlein stated that he would be requesting tax exem�t mortgage
notes which would require no City credit, and that the project provides
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a viable an meaning ul alternative form of housing for the elderly
while maintaining their health and well-being. He continued that there
would be a savings in ter.ms of dollars and mental and physical well-being
of those hous ed . He explained that the details of the service package
has not been completed and he would attempt to utilize existing services
in the community to avoid duplication.
The City Manager stated that consideration should be given to any cost
the City may incur through its public health nu�sing service for
nursing care to the residents of the facility.
Councilman Hanks stated that the Council has given a 60 day letter
of intent to the developer, however not much progress has been achieved
on the development plan to date. He wondered if any other developers
were interested in this parcel of property.
Mr. Schatzlein state d that many additional factors have been studied
during the pas t 60 days and he would need an additional 30 days to
analyze various details of the development. •
Chairman Glotter stated that this pzoj ect would be an ill-use of
taxes if the taxes would provide additional return on the developer's
equity and would ask the developer to agree to certain controls and
contingencies to set reasonable l�.mits on profit and return.
Mr. Schatzlein stated that some control measures would be agreeable
and he is not interested in windf_all profits; however, assistance is
needed to make the projeGt feasible for the elderly population.
It was moved by Cot�nc.ilman Backes, seconded by Counc�ilman Martin
to extend the letter of intent for r�evel_opment by 45 days with the
develo er_ to return with complete project information and analysis
p , , g 1978.
at the regular �oint meetin of October 24�
Commissioner Heltzer stated that he has noL- seen any proof of
t facilit in St. Louis Parlc a�d is interesaiafied
he need �or such a Y u
reviewin the financial feasibility sta�ement performed by q
fiscal agents. He also wondered if this facility p
rovides the bes t�
g
use of ert in ques tion and if this is the best use o
the prop y
industrial revenue bonding.
Join� City Council Housing Auth�ority
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minutes� SePtember 26, 1978; Page 4
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Commissioner Tschida StfTeeinh aof
community would be the g
families although there is no way
will actually occur.
Councilma.n Ralles
costs for service
one possible benef_it to the
single f amily houses f or younger
to prove that this phenomenon
s�ated thai: he is concerned with control of the
associated with the facility.
Commissioner He ltzer s tated that he would als o. like , on f or acceleraten
regarding what imPact the'proposed federal leglslatl
depreciation would have on this proj eci: .
The motion passed 6-5--1 (Councilman Meland, Ralles, Hanks, Commissioners
Heltzer and Williams opposed; Chairmann that theretwere insufficient votesncast.
objected to the ruling of the Chair, i
Proposal to Review of proposal by Charles Nasby,
Reuse Tobacco Shop Associates, Inc. to reuse and expand the
Tobacco Shop at 5300 Excelsior Boulevard.
Pat Bestler, representing the Excelsior Boulevard Advisory Committee,
stated thaL the Committee me� on September 18, 1978 to review the
current proj ectis in i:he Excelsior Boulevard Redevelopment DistricC .
She stated it was the concensus of the commattee that the Nasby
Proposa�. is unacceptable and inconsistent with the overall redevelop-
ment plan and the City should oonsider acquiring the property to be
used for parking purposes for the Lilac Way area.
� Chairman Glotter
joint body not to
to the parcel and
goal.
stated that he understood it was the premise of this
purchase any property until a proj ect is committed
purchasing this parcel would not accomplish this
Mayor Stern stated that he viewed this premise as a co�i_t��t
to risk capital funds for speculative purposes.
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Charles Nasby e�lained that his company has purchased the property
at 5300 Excelsior Boulevard and would like to use this structure as
an office building and add a lea�to greenhouse to the structure �
approximately 10 x 7 feet. The purpose of this greenhouse will be to
show perspective buyers the product which he is marketing and a
secondary purpose would be to illustrate an attractive solar collector.
He continued that the cost of installation of this residential green-
house will be $1, 200 -$1, 500.
In response to a question from Counciiman Martin, the Execu�ive Director
stated that the zoning for the area is PUD and the addition would
need a special permit; the setback area would
that there is no provision for this b uilding
for the Excelsior Redevelopment District and
must determine whether this project is a good
adequate £or the redevelopment process.
be adequate. He continued
in the long-term plans
the Council and Authority
inter�mrlevelopment or not
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,J�� nt �i�Y �ouncil Housing Authority minutes, September 26 197 •
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�ommissioner He tzer stated that if , the City feels it is in a
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osition where it cannot approve this
p • PrOJ eCt, i.t may have to
decide to acquire the property in th�t it would be denying certain
property rights to the property owner.
Mayor Stern expressed concern in that if the City approved the
project at this time, what would the consequences be if the
property had to be taken for other projects later.
Mr. Nasby stated that if the City would need the property for its
proj ect, he would b e willing to negotiate acquis ition with the
City as any other property owner in the dis tr ict .
Chairman Glotter stated that it would be difficult to not let a
private enterprise develop this property as long as it is not an
obstacle to the long—term redevelopment goals.
It was moved by Chairman Glotter, seconded by Councilman Elstrom
to approve the concept of the reuse of the Tobacco Shop and
allow Mr. Nasby to procede with the regular special permit application
process.
Councilman Meland s tated that the City should be aware that such an
authorization may increase the value of this property which the City
may need to acquire at a later time and would require relocation to
another greenhouse which would not be a simple task.
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The motion failed�(Chairman Glotter and Councilman Elstrom in favor) .
5. Consulting The �xecutive Director explained that
Services the City h�s b�en approached by a firm
wishing to provide computer services to
� t�ie City for f-inancial analyses of the
development districts in the City. He stated that this would involve
the Oak Park Village and Excelsior Boulevard Redevelopment District
and is the computer service currently used by the League of Minnesota
Municipalities. The City would be paying for computer usage only in
terms of unit time and storage. The Executive Director continued that
this service has been reviewed by �he Authority and should��ai�umaylbe
a cos t s avings to th e Ci ty and exis ting te rminals in Ci ty t ime and
used. The City would have the ability to run programs a�. any
there is no re uirement for payment on days when the service is not
q
in use.
In response to a ques t ion f rnm May
or Stern, the Executive Direc�or
st er service is identical to the one usudliizede
ated that the comput ue service the City has
League of Cities; however, the Leag . uter eq>>iPment to the
in L-he pas t als o includes a cos � to br ing comp
' ersonnel f or interpretat ion and advice .
Clty and for use of League p
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ncil Housing Authority minutes, September 26, 1978; Page 6
Joint City Cou �
It was moved by Councilman rleland, seconded by
to have statf prepare an indication °viewedaat
preparation of the coni:ract to be re
Councilman Ma.rtin rec�uested that the
involved from the current consulting
Councilman Elstrom
costs and to authorize
the next joint meeting.
report reflect any savings
service.
Mayor Stern stated Lhat the new service should be used in conjunction
with the existing League services.
The motion passed 12-0.
6. Ec�nomic
Development
Director
Chairman Glotter stated that the HRA has
reviewed several options available for
providing an economic deve lopment position
as staff to the Authority. He continued
that the Authority has selected an option which w ould allow the pos ition
to be structured witihin the existing organization, and that the City
would be able to use the personnel and refmburse the Authority for
the services.
T'he chairman of the West Suburban Chamber of Commerce Economic
Development Committee stated that the chamber propos al is in con-
ceptual f orm only and the Chamber is reques t ing a concept approval
from the Council in order to proceed with a detailed plan; the con-
cept has been approved by Hopkins and Minnetonka.
Commissioner Tschida stated �hat the Authority did discuss the use
of the Chamber of Commerce program in conjunction w ith the Economic
Development position and perhaps the City would want to use the
program f or other than redevelopment areas in the City.
Mayor Stern stated as a compromise he would be willing to look at
the Chamber proposal, however, he would advocate estab lishing the
Economic Development position for an 18 month period to be reevalu-
ated at th at time. The Chamber proposal could be a longer range
program.
Councilman Meland questioned how this Chamber program is different than
the present function of the Chamber of Cotmnerce .
The Chamber representative indicated that s ome of this function has
been performed in the past, but the Chamber needs staff and expertise
to do a better job. He continued that at this time no f inancial
resources are available for an adequate program and th e City and
Chamber should be partners in promotion. The City Manager stated that
incorporating the position into the existing staffstructur e would
realize a cost savings of 15 - 20 percent than if a person were hired
and a separate department estab lished.
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,loint City Council Housing Authority minutes, September
26, 1978; Page 7
Chairman Glotter explained if the position were incorporated in the
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g� structure, t e HR.A would fund the entire position and the City
could contract for services for other persons, He continued that
option 1 would require the City to create a position and department
t,o fund the pos ition and the HRA would contract f rom the City.
Councilman Hanks stated that he
position into the HRA structure
City share of cost would be for
pref erred the in�orporation of_ the
however, inquired what the possible
other servi�es .
The Executive Director stated that one person could spend
35 percent of his time on redevelopment projects and the
would have the ability to place emphasis on certain areas
community for additional services.
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Council
of the
Councilman Meland stated that the City Council is responsible for
planning and orderly development within the City and would be concerned
that a separate department. f or economic development providing problems
for staff coordination; he could not support a plan where the City
would have to compromise planning policies to attract development.
It was moved by Councilman Martin, seconded by Commissioner
Williams to approve the estab lishment of an economic development
position within the HRA staff structure for a period of 18 months.
The City Manager stated that
Authority and City would not
to make budget appropriation
the division of labor between the
be ne ces s ary but the Counc il would need
to cover possible City costs.
The motion passed 7-5 (Councilman
and Commiss ion Heltzer opposed).
7. Adj ournment
Afi tes t :
Wendy go
Recording Se cretary
Backes; Hanks, Me land, Ralles
Upon a motion by Councilman Hanks,
se nded by Councilman Backes, the
me�ing was adj ourned at 10 :17 p.� •
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