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JOINT CiTY
AUTHORITY
Call to Order
Roll Call
MINUTES
COUNCIL-HOUSING AND
OF ST. LOUIS PARK,
May 2, 1978
REDEVELOPMENT
MINNESOTA
A joint meeting of the City Council and
Housing and Redevelopment Authority was
called to order by Mayor Stern at 7:15 p.m.
The following Councilmen were present at
roll call:
Ronald Backes Martha Elstrom
Rose-Mary Griak Jerrold Martin
Keith Meland Irving Stern
The following Housing Authority cor�nissioners
were present at roll call:
Jane Tsichda
Dudley Moylan
Thomas Williams
Joel Glotter
Commissioner Israel arrived at 8:30 p.m.; Councilman Hanks arrived at 9:00 p.m.
Also present were the City Manager and the Executive Director.
3. Development Proposals The Executive Director explained that each
of the prospective developers had been
requested to submit a statement of qualifications
and financial responsibility. Five developers
submitted this information, and it has been
reviewed by himself and the Finance Director. He indicated that most
responses did not supply all necessary information, however, in most
instances, sufficient information was submitted to make a tentative conclusion.
He continued that these five developers, Ryan Canstruction Company, William
Fine, Stuart Corporation, Landvesco Corporation and Anderson-Cherney, Inc.
are generally financially sound. He stated that a statement was not received
f the Roone Company and several other proposals are more tentative in
rom y
nature. The Ezecutive Director added�that because the information has been
recently received, there has not been opportunity to check references and
factual data. �
The Executive Director indicated that all developers have shown interest in
a land leasing situation. He also stated that the Council and Authority
might consider alternative acquisition policies for the single-family area
on W�ct 38 Street; the developer will need to know this acquisition policy
in order to proceed.
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Commissioner Tsichda stated that teferXtheldeveloper integrate this
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is in good condition, and wou p
housin9 into his development plan.
review the
The Executive Director proceeded todevelopers who�have
proposal. He ind�cated that those
till interested in pursuing the
revised proposals are s
proposal submitted.
development
submitted
original
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tive to the supermarket site on the south side of Eioementrwould
Boulevard, the Executive Director stated thanterlbydone-third. He
reduce the existing Miracle Mile Shoppin9 Ce
stated that problems may be involved in exposure of thetheuillustrative
residential property to a.parking lot. He �oamenttintthis area should
plan provided that the existing reta�l deve p
be strengthened and integrated. In addition, he explainCosthof the
project was not financially feasible in that the public
acquisition, demolition and relocat�on would significantly exceed tax
increment revenues.
The Executive Director stated that the Ryan
the Rooney Company are currently discussing
their proposed developments.
In response
development
Council and
systematic
Construction
options for
to a question relative to the legality
of one supermarket to the area, it was
HRA could do so if this conclusion was
study and review of land use policies.
Company and
integrating
of limiting
explained that the
reached through
In response to a question from Mayor Stern, the Executive Director
stated that the supermarket site in the Park Center area is expected
to produce revenues of approximately $100,000 and the public costs
are minimal. He added that the developer has aqreed to acquire each
parcel as the City acquires it, to minimize the City's holdings. Ne
added that at the site on the south side of the Excelsior Boulevard,
there is an obligation to relocate tenants, which can be a very
expensive operation.
John Bradbury, representing B. Dalton Bookseller, stated that although
this store was a test market, the store has a ten-year lease on the
building, and has intended to stay in its existing location.
Chairman Glotter stated that to make accurate comparisons between
developments, one must look at the element of time commitment for
development completement. He added that the Council and Authority
must determine the scope of the redevelopment area, as an office/
commercial complex or a subregional center. Ne stated that the
Ryan proposal would most likely eliminate a subregional concept.
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���rd C amper, Stuart Corporation, stated that his company would
prefer to depelop both blocks simulianeously, but would be willing to
n�gotiate a hased construct�on. He continued that the 100 elderly
units would be Section 8, subsidized housing and 117 apartments and
�ight townhouse units would be market rate units. He continued
that the company would initiate the financing process simultaneously
with the City land acquisition proceedings. In response to a question
from Commissioner Tsichda, Mr, Champer stated that integrating the
townhouses with the existing single-family homes would not be consistent
with the dev�lopment proposal.
Corr�issioner Moylan stated that the acquisition of the single-family
homes is a political decision to be made by the City Council and not
by the Nousing Authority.
Councilman Elstrom questioned whether a supermarket was compatible with
office and hotel development.
Richard Graves, representing the League of Cities Technical Advisory
Service, stated that in his opinion, the south Excelsior Boulevard site
for the supermarket would be financially feasible. He stated that
no m�tter where the supermarket is located, the same land/building
ratio exists, so it would make more sense to construct a supermarket
on the south side of Excelsior Boulevard where residents prefer less
dense land use.
William Fine stated that his company has determined that the north
Excelsior Boulevard site would be self-sustaininq for a supermarket;
however, the calculations have not been completed for the south
Excelsior Soulevard site.
The Executive Director
method of analyzing the
assuriptions relative to
revenaes.
stated that Mr. Graves has used a similar
financial data, however, has used different
acquisition and relocation costs and tax
It was moved by Councilman Meland, seconded by Councilman Martin, to
authorize staff to proceed with finan�helredevelopmentbdtlstript�ptoation
for �11 supermarket proposals within
be completed within sixty days.
The City Manager explained that sixty to ninety days would be necessary
for these studies, in order to determine accurate relocation and other
T hnical Advisory Service would
costs. He continued that the League ec
need sixty days, with staff input, to complete the studies.
Chairman Glotter stated that he preferred not
study results since the developers are anxious
He continued that the Cherney proposal is only
the water tower site could be acceptable for a
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to wait sixty days for
for commitments from
tentative in nature,
supermarket proposal.
the
the City.
and
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The motion failed 1-11
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Meland in favor) .
s ex lained the Technical Advisory Service.program to the
Mr. Grave P The service would make its expertise
Council and the Author��y. • •
ilable to St. Louis Park. He added tha� St: Louis Park �s the
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nl city with a signi�i�ant tax �ncree�nthat°the�financialsstudihave
o y es
a full-time managemen� s�aff. He agre
would take at least sixty days. He continued that the Technical
Advisory Service would cost $25 per hour.
The City Planager sta�ed that if the Council and Authority wish to
consider the south side of Excelsior Boulevard for supermarket
development, additional informationdevelo ment�wouldtnot occursony�
The illustrative p1an assumed that p
the south side of Excelsior Boulevontinuedtthat1to�determineatheot
been obtained at this point. He c
relocation costs on the south side site, the City must examine each
lease, all inventories, etc., which will take a considerable amount of
stud,y.
It was moved by Councilman Bac kes, seconded by Councilman Elstrom,
to eliminate the proposal for construction of a supermarket on the
south side of Excelsior Boulevard.
The motion passed 8-4 (Councilmen Hanks and Martin, Commissioner
Moylan and Mayor Stern opposed).
It was moved by Councilman Hanks, seconded by Councilman Backes, to
prepare complete financial information and budgets for all remaining
development proposals.
Mayor Stern suggested that the remaining supermarket proposals should
be referred to staff for financial study and budget determination for
report back in 45 days.
Chairman Glotter stated that the current
prevents short-range development, and the
plan has been approved by the Council and
the proposal should be reviewed in terms
illustrative plan.
1 and use pl an for the area
redevel opment i l lustrative
Authority. He added that
of consistency with the
It was moved by Chairman Glotter, seconded by Councilman Meland, to
review the supermarket proposals for the water tower area in terms
of financial data, budget preparation and planning considerations
consistent with the illustrative plan to be presented on June 27, 1978'
Chairman Glotter continued that the illustrative plan for the Park
Center area designates a cohesive retail unit and a supermarket in
this area would be inconsistent with the illustrative plan, therefore, ,
he would favor examination of the water tower area for a supermarket °��r
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The motion failed 2-10 (Comnissioner Williams and Chairman Glotter in favor).
It wap moved by Councilman Hanks, seconded by Councilman Meland, to prepare
a com lete financial study and budget preparation for all supermarket
proposals in the area north of Excelsior 8oulevard to 36 Street and to
review the proposal in terms of consistency with the illustrative plan.
Councilman Elstrom siated that she felt it was inappropriate to deal
only with the supermarket proposals, especially since the proposals
for the water tower site are not all for supermarkets.
In response to a question from Chairman �lotter, Anthony Cherney stated
that he is not committed to the development other than the office/bank
facility.
The motion passed 11-0-1 (Chairman Glotter abstaining).
Mayor Stern
proposal. He
plan and the
proceed with
stated that
stated tha
devel oper
definitive
he would like
t it meets the
needs direction
cost data.
to consider the Stuart Corporation
requirements of the illustrative
and indication of approval to
Chairman Glotter stated that there may be problems with obtaining MHFA
financing for the 100 elderly units.
Leonard Champer stated that without some indication of approval, he will
not be able to proceed with financing. He suggested the City proceed
with its studies simultaneously with his seeking adequate financing.
Chairman Glotter stated that the proposal is consistent with the guide
plans, and if there were objections to the acquisition of sinAle-family
homes in this area, those objections should have been raised when the
plan was adopted. He continued that there was not a great deal of
exposure for the City in a letter of intent; the developer must provide
information within sixty days or give up the right to development.
It was moved by Chairman Glotter, seconded by Commissioner Moylan, to
issue a letter of intent for development approval to the �tuart
Corporation to develop the easterly block with 125 units to be leased
at the market rate.
Mr. Champer indicated that he would prefer approval for both blocks at
this time; although the financing must be obtained for the elderly units,
the company ultimately wants to develop both blocks.
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Chairman Glotter
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sta�ted that development shoumoreetimel �man to
�f �t can be develoned in a Y ner.
Mayor Stern stated,tha� sinCe�tbesdonea
district, all acquffset�theuacquisition
is no project to 0
The motion failed
Chairman Glot�er,
3.-g ( Commi ss i oners
in favor).
i s wi th i n a tax i ncr�nent
quickly, .otherwise, there
cost.
Williams and Israel, and
It was moved by Councilman E1strom, seconded by�fCtheCsixteenrhou�
to study the acquisition and relocation costs ses
in the area proposed to be developed by the Stuart Corporation.
The motion was withdrawn.
It was moved by Commissioner Moylan, seconded by
for staff and the Stuart Corporation to discuss
market rate structures to be constructed on both
and westerly sites.
The motion passed 12-0.
Councilman Griak,
a proposal for
the easterly
William Fine stated that although he preferred the north Excelsior
Boulevard site for supermarket construction, he would also be
willing to make a proposal on the Park Center site if the Council
determines that is where the supermarket should be located.
Bill Schatslein, Landvesco Corporation, presented a proposal for
150 units of congregate elderly market rate units.
It was moved
to encourage
and work with
by Councilman Hanks, seconded by Councilman Elstrom,
Landvesco to pursue private acquisition of property
staff for further development of its plan.
The motion passed 11-1 (Commissioner Tsichda opposed).
It was moved by Councilman Martin, seconded by Commissioner Williams,
to authorize staff to use the services of the League of Cities
Technical Advisory Service for the development of the financial
information relative to the district.
Councilman
that staff
to be used,
money to be
Elstrom stated that she was opposed
should be directed to recommend the
and the Council should be aware of
expended,
Councilman Hanks
staff determines
stated that
necessary,
to the moti on, and
types of service
estimated time and
this service should be used only �5
The motion passed 8-3 (Councilmen Elstrom, Hanks and Meland oppose�)�
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It was determined that the next joint meeting would be held on
June 27 , 1978 at 8: 00 p.m.
� , Ad i ou rnment
Attest:
�L�
Wendy Born
Recording Secretary
The meeting was adjourned at 11:15 p.m.
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